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Ghost were one of the top bands at Terrastock in Boston. But even they couldn't save Damon and Naomi from that painful set.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 14:40 (twenty years ago) link

See, Mr. Noodles, this is why we LEFT. Avoiding Tom Rapp and D/N in favor of a fine Italian meal with Mr. Barrus, Gareth and Matos = a vast improvement. But yes, the actual Ghost set itself = tres genius.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 14:43 (twenty years ago) link

nine months pass...
What do we think of Snuffbox Immanence? I saw it pretty cheap at the record store the other day, and I quite like Hypnotic Underworld, but Tune In, Turn On, Free Tibet a bit less, probably because of the 34 minute closer, which has nice bits that could have been built into awesome tunes but instead just kind of meander aimlessly.

Ian Johnson (orion), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 23:26 (nineteen years ago) link

A super nice album.

Tim Ellison, Tuesday, 25 May 2004 23:29 (nineteen years ago) link

I know what Ned thinks, but what about the rest of you?

S: Lhasa Lhasa from Tune In, Turn On..., Piper and Holy High from Hypnotic Underworld

Ian Johnson (orion), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 23:31 (nineteen years ago) link

"Regenesis" on Snuffbox has to be one of the most beautiful songs of the last five years, no?

Tim Ellison, Tuesday, 25 May 2004 23:31 (nineteen years ago) link

If I'm remembering it right, Snuffbox is lovely. It's got quite a light and airy feel to it, kind of like some delicately stoned medieval chamber prog, but the tunes are maybe a little more tightly focussed than similar stuff off previous albums. Lots of the songs are based round acoustic guitars, flutes and indeed glockenspiels, though Kurihara does pop up quite a bit to add his considerable electric clout.

It's also got a great cover of the Stones' "Live With Me" on it, which for me is highly noteworthy for being one of the few songs my wife will actively insist that I play her.

NickB (NickB), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 08:09 (nineteen years ago) link

i think i stood outside a show of theirs in philadelphia once, waiting for someone. and then, in boston, some people went to the show, and i didnt. i didnt really know about them. i still dont, but, if i buy lama rabi rabi, or another one, this weekend, then hopefully i will.

so, which one should i buy?

charltonlido (gareth), Friday, 28 May 2004 12:42 (nineteen years ago) link

you should get hypnotic underworld, i think.

lama rabi rabi is patchy patchy patchy. snuffbox immanence is good though. DON'T buy Ghost with Damon & Naomi.

Dave Amos, Friday, 28 May 2004 13:39 (nineteen years ago) link

three months pass...
Just saw them tonight. GREAT live.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Monday, 27 September 2004 05:46 (nineteen years ago) link

"We are Ghost from the Far East."

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Monday, 27 September 2004 15:03 (nineteen years ago) link

"We are Ghost from the Far East."

ditto. they were awesome. they exited the khyber (philly) through the door behind the stage. it was the first time i saw a band do that so they could re-enter for an encore. it's a shame more people didn't come out for the show.

blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.life), Monday, 27 September 2004 15:29 (nineteen years ago) link

They are always great in Philly! Well, okay, I've only seen them twice in philly, but they were great then. The show upstairs at the troc back around the time of snuffbox is still on my top ten live shows ever list!

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 27 September 2004 15:36 (nineteen years ago) link

Haven't heard their previous, but HYPNOTIC UNDERWORLD is very good. Still have to fast fwd past first track, but the rest just grows on me me more and more. Any compentent muso can be eclectic, but all these different bits are so well-timed! Like the best style-sequences of Comets On Fire's BLUE CATHEDRAL Umphrey McGee's ANCHOR DROPS, but not, in effect, but not literally: Ghost's influences are different. "Hazy Paradise"(a Dutch song, from early 70s, I think) is kind of Jimmy Webb/Bryan Maclean, but not as icky as they could be; piano sections remind of Pharoah Sanders's LIVE AT THE EAST, other pasts like if Donovan had continued developing his work with Jeff Beck and Jimmy Page; Japanese refs. like Benzaiten and Stomu Yomashita's Red Buddah Theater. But none of this is lifted (I doubt that that the orig."Hazy Paradise" has a Japanese accent, which tends to resist the more emotive faux-Scott-Walker phrasing which I suspect this song might bring out in Westerners).

Don A, Monday, 27 September 2004 20:54 (nineteen years ago) link

you forgot amon duul 2, don. i always hear them in ghost. especially on the new one.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 27 September 2004 20:58 (nineteen years ago) link

The members of Ghost all have really nice hair!

Ian c=====8 (orion), Monday, 27 September 2004 20:58 (nineteen years ago) link

Seein them Saturday with Six Organs of Admittance. really lookin forward to it.

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 27 September 2004 21:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I dunno, I thought Whoopi Goldberg was pretty overrated.

Would you believe I clicked on this thread just now, not realizing I'd already posted on it, to make another Whoopi Goldberg joke?

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 27 September 2004 21:02 (nineteen years ago) link

Also, their own hazy paradise (lowercase habitat as well as that song) is also steamy, dirty, like a real forest (incl, in the back corner of the pasture, down toward the bottom of the ravine, speaking of shrooms.) Was very glad to first hear this as antidote to cable debut of LORD OF THE RINGS: digitalized, sanitary fronds, incl. Ian McKellan's "hair" eeewwww

Don, Monday, 27 September 2004 21:30 (nineteen years ago) link

Anyone heard the Holy High 7"? I *think* it came out quite a long time before _Hypnotic Underworld_ so I was wondering whether it might be totally different.

Also: jealous beyond words of all you lot for seeing them. Dont think theyve ever played in Britain.

NickB (NickB), Monday, 27 September 2004 21:43 (nineteen years ago) link

i thought new zealand looked really pretty in lord of the rings! i've only seen the first one though.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 27 September 2004 21:44 (nineteen years ago) link

(X-post) Yeah, it's a totally different version. Must have been around '95 or so. It's very good.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 27 September 2004 21:44 (nineteen years ago) link

did i see somewhere that someone has reissued the batoh now sound records? (i have them and like them a lot. good if you like the folky side of ghost.) or maybe those were other records that have been reissued.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 27 September 2004 21:45 (nineteen years ago) link

Batoh's solo stuff is great. As is Cosmic Invention. And Sweet Honey.

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 27 September 2004 21:46 (nineteen years ago) link

I said this on another thread i think, but people who go and see ghost when they are in full-on rock mode -as opposed to temple bell insense mode- are almost always impressed. Live they are such an amazing tight rock & roll beast. god, i could watch them play forever.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 27 September 2004 21:48 (nineteen years ago) link

The Batoh stuff is out again on Drag City. Its those two 90s albums reissued.

NickB (NickB), Monday, 27 September 2004 21:50 (nineteen years ago) link

that's cool. more people should hear those.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 27 September 2004 21:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Absolutely, and a timely reissue too. Fits nicely alongside some of the folksy stuff that DC have been punting out of late. Except better obv.

NickB (NickB), Monday, 27 September 2004 21:55 (nineteen years ago) link

If had to choose between their (or most people's) heavy vs. folky, would def. choose the heavy.What's their heaviest?? I want that before Batoh, whatever it is.

Don, Monday, 27 September 2004 22:30 (nineteen years ago) link

get lama rabi rabi, don. if you like the new one, you will like that one too.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 27 September 2004 22:32 (nineteen years ago) link

Somehow had the idea that TURN ON TUNE IN FREE TIBET was mostly pretty good heavy? Judging by descriptions somewhere.

Don, Monday, 27 September 2004 22:57 (nineteen years ago) link

lotsa long jams. get that one too.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 27 September 2004 22:59 (nineteen years ago) link

turn on tune in... is mostly not heavy at all. there's one long 30 minute track at the end, and even that's not terribly heavy...

Ian c=====8 (orion), Monday, 27 September 2004 23:20 (nineteen years ago) link

I like Snuffbox a whole lot more than turn on, but maybe just cuz i listen to it a lot more. they came out at exactly the same time didn't they? I think don is just looking for acid mother temple records!

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 27 September 2004 23:27 (nineteen years ago) link

les rallizes denudes! false grail???

Ian c=====8 (orion), Monday, 27 September 2004 23:37 (nineteen years ago) link

wuzza? ian, have you ever heard marble sheep? you would love that shit.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 27 September 2004 23:54 (nineteen years ago) link

hey, forced exposure sells that live 77 rallizes thing for 25 bucks. should i get it? is it cheaper somewhere? i kinda want it.

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 00:05 (nineteen years ago) link

It is good to see all this Ghost talk (and yes there's the review linked above by Ian...but there are others). Seen them three times live now, each spectacular in different ways.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 00:10 (nineteen years ago) link

i wrote about the new album for the voice, but i don't think it really made much sense. fun to write though!

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 00:13 (nineteen years ago) link

Live 77 is my fave LRD probably. I tried to start a LRD thread on teh noize board but it didn't get very far.

Ian c=====8 (orion), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 00:17 (nineteen years ago) link

Believe the hype on les Rallizes Denudes.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 00:56 (nineteen years ago) link

belive the hype on ghost too, really! such a rad band.

Ian c=====8 (orion), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 01:08 (nineteen years ago) link

i have it on good authority that they're touring the States again next spring. i've already begun hoarding provisions to follow them up/down the East Coast.

blackmail.is.my.life (blackmail.is.my.life), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 01:15 (nineteen years ago) link

wisdom.

Ian c=====8 (orion), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 01:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Pazz and Jop voters: Don't let Hypnotic Underworld slip in your memory because it came out near the beginning of the year.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 01:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh no no, it's been on my list ever since came out, but but:HAUNTED WEATHER,Arthur Russell's one-two punch (should I leave out one, just to make room for somebody else?!); Crime, Texas Terri, Cyndi Boste, Marron,DNA,Drive-By Truckers,Faust vs. Dalek, Comets On Fire, live Ubu,Homosexuals,Metal Boys--well, I think I've suppressed these last three, but I haven't yet heard/wrassled with the Ayler box, Eminem, new SMILE, David Thomas and 2 Pale Boys,aieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Don, Tuesday, 28 September 2004 02:35 (nineteen years ago) link

saw them Saturday - they're on fire on this tour. really really great - if you even remotely like their stuff you've gotta see them this time around. Heavy heavy 70s psych/acid-rock, with much more together tunes and riffs than AMT (I love AMT too, but they operate on a different plane)

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 4 October 2004 16:07 (nineteen years ago) link

three months pass...
God, "Comin' Home" is pretty.

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Monday, 17 January 2005 17:36 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
And a revive...because we need a definitive answer here -- is the Terrastock show in fact going to be their last one ever?

I've been warming up by listening to the albums one a day here.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 13:35 (eighteen years ago) link

I really don't understand the love for these guys. All I've heard is Hypnotic Underworld, and I'm somewhat disappointed. It's not the transcendent psych experience I wanted. It's more of a long, noodling, samey-sounding unoffending, gentle, mildly-psychedelic rock; the Japanese Pink Floyd.

Mickey (modestmickey), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 13:43 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeha, fucking Swedish metal Ghost keeps confusing me. Stop touring, Swedish Ghost! You should have googled, you doofuses.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 12:12 (eleven years ago) link

Every once in a while I will see news about Ghost pop up online and I get excited until I read and find out it is Swedish Ghost that is being discussed.

Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Wednesday, 6 June 2012 12:33 (eleven years ago) link

aw i came in to talk Swedish Ghost

fauxmarc, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 12:45 (eleven years ago) link

BEGONE.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 12:54 (eleven years ago) link

Sadly the Batoh gig last night fell a bit flat. Very low attendance (about 15 people including the support acts) and quite a short set (felt like it was only about 20 mins long!) and Batoh seemed to be having a few technical issues with the circuits that his brain pulse machine was plugged into. That said, I was quite surprised by the music the device generated. Hadn't heard the record and was expecting soothing drones or something (I read somewhere that it was being looked at for use in medical treatment), but what we actually got was like a flip-flop sequence of quiet momemnts punctuated by loud shrieks and blocks of quite agressive tones that sounded a lot like early electronic music. Not a big surprise I guess considering that the brain pulse machine was being fed into a couple of oscillators and some sort of feedback loop. Good while it lasted, but I left feeling a litle glum :(

gonna send him to outer space, to hug another face (NickB), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 12:05 (eleven years ago) link

Awww, shit. I really wanted to go but only found out about it at the weekend, and already had tickets for the Damo show tonight...

emil.y, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 12:08 (eleven years ago) link

Aww too bad! Did you see the promo video for it? Looks right up yr alley!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI4Mge8nLMw

gonna send him to outer space, to hug another face (NickB), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 12:09 (eleven years ago) link

OT but I forgot almost the best bit of the whole evening: I saw A HEDGEHOG walking down the pavement in Beaconsfield Villas on my way home! Alive and snuffling about and everything - amazing!

gonna send him to outer space, to hug another face (NickB), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 13:07 (eleven years ago) link

Reading a few tweets and it looks like he also only played for twenty minutes or so in London last night. What's up with that? Should have brought a guitar on tour with him as well.

gonna send him to outer space, to hug another face (NickB), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 15:17 (eleven years ago) link

five years pass...

reissues/remasters with bonus tracks

https://www.discogs.com/label/1286154-Ghost-Future-Archives

brimstead, Saturday, 22 July 2017 05:38 (six years ago) link

<3

Dancing on the Pylons, Saturday, 22 July 2017 16:25 (six years ago) link

!!!

sleeve, Saturday, 22 July 2017 16:45 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

yeah! we're riding, forthcoming from the outside

brimstead, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 01:10 (six years ago) link

no from the inside

brimstead, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 01:11 (six years ago) link

<3

πŸ”± Holger Jowday ^πŸŒ‘^ (Dancing on the Pylons), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 02:03 (six years ago) link

best band

πŸ”± Holger Jowday ^πŸŒ‘^ (Dancing on the Pylons), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 02:03 (six years ago) link

Just realized I had already post "<3" here in July. What else can I say about Ghost? Best band.

I'm about to order the new Live in Providence 2006 archival release. It has their Terrastock 6 show -- the first time I ever visited the States! Memories! And what an amazing set they played!

πŸ”± Holger Jowday ^πŸŒ‘^ (Dancing on the Pylons), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 02:06 (six years ago) link

*posted

πŸ”± Holger Jowday ^πŸŒ‘^ (Dancing on the Pylons), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 02:06 (six years ago) link

It was, and I was right up front for it.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 02:18 (six years ago) link

https://www.flickr.com/photos/nedraggett/albums/72057594118514974

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 02:20 (six years ago) link

Wow had no idea there were any archival releases!

sleeve, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 02:31 (six years ago) link

It was, and I was right up front for it.

― Ned Raggett, Monday, September 11, 2017 10:18 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

https://www.flickr.com/photos/nedraggett/albums/72057594118514974

― Ned Raggett, Monday, September 11, 2017 10:20 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Awesome. I remember being close enough to the front and center (maybe second or third row?) to be slightly worried about Batoh's marvelous "springer" device -- I think he let the spring go at some point? Anyway, amazing stuff and I can't wait for the album to arrive!

πŸ”± Holger Jowday ^πŸŒ‘^ (Dancing on the Pylons), Thursday, 14 September 2017 02:28 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

best band

― πŸ”± Holger Jowday ^πŸŒ‘^ (Dancing on the Pylons), Monday, September 11, 2017 7:03 PM (one month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

brimstead, Monday, 30 October 2017 21:44 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

Not sure if this was ever posted on ILM but Batoh interview by Will Oldham:

https://aquariumdrunkard.com/2015/03/31/will-oldham-interviews-masaki-batoh/

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 21:13 (five years ago) link

four years pass...

bump

missed this 2020 solo LP by Batoh but it is great

https://masakibatoh.bandcamp.com/album/smile-jesus-loves-you

Perverted By Linguiça (sleeve), Friday, 21 April 2023 16:56 (eleven months ago) link


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