hahahahahaha Atlas Shrugged is being made into a movie! with Angelina Jolie! [EDIT: actually not anymore! oh well!]

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Oliver Stone —unquestionably Hollywood’s farthest-left director

FFS, really? Paranoia over the Kennedy assasination and being cranky about Nixon was almost universal for his and subsiquent generations. How was Natural Born Killers a far-left movie?

Coach Dave (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Thursday, 19 October 2006 12:35 (seventeen years ago) link

and don't forget his 9/11 movie

milo z (mlp), Thursday, 19 October 2006 13:37 (seventeen years ago) link

NBK was a far-AWESOME movie!

Young Fresh Danny D (Dan Perry), Thursday, 19 October 2006 13:38 (seventeen years ago) link

"Objectivism" is funny every time I read it. It reminds me of that movie where Fred Astaire plays a character based on Richard Avedon and the female lead is interested in some philosophy called "Empathicalism"

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Thursday, 19 October 2006 13:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Funny Face. Good movie.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 19 October 2006 13:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, given the idiocy of entertainment press, it's entirely possible that "longtime fan" means some reporter fired the question at Jolie and she just didn't say no.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 19 October 2006 13:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Ayn Rand seems to appeal to extremely self-centered and self-deluded people regardless of political allignment, so I wouldn't be completely surprised.

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Thursday, 19 October 2006 13:56 (seventeen years ago) link

I suppose. Still, I don't know much about objectivism (nor can I be arsed to consult wikipedia before noon) but the whole saving-forgotten-peoples, millions-of-dollars-to-charity thing doesn't seem very Randian.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 19 October 2006 13:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Er, yeah, I guess that's true.

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Thursday, 19 October 2006 13:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Seriously Hurting, shut the fuck up.

Young Fresh Danny D (Dan Perry), Thursday, 19 October 2006 13:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Rand VERY big with gym-toned brainless Chelsea fags

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 October 2006 13:59 (seventeen years ago) link

"shingle" = the sign you hang out in front, i.e.

http://thumb2.shutterstock.com/photos3/thumb_small/10087/10087,1132560086,1.jpg

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Thursday, 19 October 2006 14:17 (seventeen years ago) link

i love variety's industry-speak. it's cute.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 19 October 2006 14:17 (seventeen years ago) link

does anyone outside the USA understand anything about ayn rand??? it seems to me to be a very specifically american phenom

Mark Co (Markco), Thursday, 19 October 2006 14:44 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm IN the USA and I read AS in high school some time and I STILL don't understand it.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 19 October 2006 14:46 (seventeen years ago) link

objectivism = harmolodics

The Bearnaise-Stain Bears (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 19 October 2006 14:49 (seventeen years ago) link

my UK view on ayn rand = eccentric 50s author who wrote books where big strapping economists say things like "I had to kill my cat because SHE WAS WEAK!!" and then some buxotic lady economist says "quite right, darling there is no time for emotion in our WORLD OF NOW!!"

US view on rand seems to = omg this is serious philosophy!!!

Mark Co (Markco), Thursday, 19 October 2006 14:50 (seventeen years ago) link

in Soviet Russia AS understands YOU

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 19 October 2006 14:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Mark, awesome! Hahah.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 19 October 2006 14:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh man, how much better would this be as a musical?

Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:01 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't think anybody serious takes rand seriously. she might be assigned in high school, but i don't think she's taught in college philosophy courses or anything. but i could be wrong.

but based on the number of people i know under 40 who call themselves libertarians, i won't be surprised if some form of libertarianism is the next big wave in american politics. it's what underlies a lot of the "western strategy" being considered by both parties right now. so a big rand revival could be in the offing.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:02 (seventeen years ago) link

"A Is A" = total big finale number. "Aaaaaaa...iiiiiiisssss...AAAAAAAAA!!! Dun dun dun."

Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:03 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't think anybody serious takes rand seriously.

enough undergraduates do to make it rather disturbing.

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:04 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't think so - the philosophy is too deeply rooted in the Cold War-era.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:04 (seventeen years ago) link

I had this weird friend in college who was both a Randite and a hardcore fundamentalist Christian. She also tended to go to extremes in general though, including a half-hearted suicide attempt.

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Not very extreme of her.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Is she even taught widely in high school? Rand seems (on a literary/respectability level) like the kind of thing some kids read on their own, but not so much in an actual English class.

My high school loved the canon - two Shakespeares a year from 9th grade on, American novelists junior year (Hawthorne, Gatsby, et al.), European and 20th Century world senior year (Kafka, Dostoyevsky, Camus, et al. plus Milton and Dante). I can't imagine any of my teachers handing out Rand with a straight face (or finding time to teach a 1000-page novel).

xp - I knew a gay, Mormon Randroid. He moved to Manhattan a year ago, so he could be part of the Chelsea boy crew Morbs speaks of.

milo z (mlp), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh man, how much better would this be as a musical?

Atlas!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:11 (seventeen years ago) link

this would be awesome as a farce - probably turn out that way anyhow.

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:12 (seventeen years ago) link

fwiw, the only randian i know in new york is gay.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Rand seems (on a literary/respectability level) like the kind of thing some kids read on their own, but not so much in an actual English class.

yeah the few rand fans i knew in high school and college all came to her via 2112.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:17 (seventeen years ago) link

She also tended to go to extremes in general though, including a half-hearted suicide attempt.

-- A-ron Hubbard (Hurtingchie...), October 19th, 2006.

Not very extreme of her.

-- Laurel (sininspac...), October 19th, 2006.

Well, she got all set to do it but then called her brother to have him come "say goodbye." Obviously the brother realized what was going on and stopped it and she was briefly checked in to an institution, as she was on a few other occasions.

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:18 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't think anybody serious takes rand seriously. she might be assigned in high school, but i don't think she's taught in college philosophy courses or anything. but i could be wrong.

In my college freshman-year facebook (circa 1991) The Fountainhead was the most popular "favorite book" behind the Bible. I don't think the academy takes it, or any pop-dogma type book that seriously, but people sure seem to.

Dr. Alicia D. Titsovich (sexyDancer), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:18 (seventeen years ago) link

i won't be surprised if some form of libertarianism is the next big wave in american politics.

as far as i know that's already happening. there's a lot of suburban youths of voting age who are disconnected from the rest of society (or at least any social diversity one might find living in stripmall subdivisions that tend to homogenize class and race) that feel like their taxes are wasted on programs they don't have any use for, and they're burdened by RESTRICTIVE LAWS against drugs and guns and helmets. combine this (what i guess you could call a randian sense of independence) with an already growing athiest sentiment that severs any potential affiliation with the republican right, as well as a contempt for what they see as a "bullshit two party system," and the libertarians emerge as the new conservative party for an upper-middle class 18-25 generation further from the working poor than ever.

ath (ath), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:22 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah in American schools this has zero cred - I can't imagine a course with Rand as required reading. (of course kids still read it - mostly nerds with power fantasies of being iconoclasts)

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Rand is good for telling people what they want to hear - that the easiest thing to do (always acting purely out of self-interest) is actually the best thing to do. Hence her popularity.

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:24 (seventeen years ago) link

I think Rand really is a very American phenomenon - I'd heard nothing about her until I stumbled across the name on the Internet a few years back, and most I've learned about her has been through ILE.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:28 (seventeen years ago) link

At my college there was an Objectivist group that actively agitated against such degeneracy as health insurance, which subsidizes medicine for lazy people who haven't earned it.

Paul Eater (eater), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:30 (seventeen years ago) link

My jr. high school had a class that was essentially free reading time with the caveat that you had to select what you read from the bookshelf in the class. There was a point system based on the supposed difficulty of the book, etc. Anthem was v. popular. But none of my jr. high/high school/college classes actually assigned Rand.

x-post

C0L1N B... (C0L1N B...), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:30 (seventeen years ago) link

I assume that this is so because her writing appeals to "American" (in an extremely rough sense) rather than "European" values.

(xx-post)

Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, c'mon there has to be some seething lurker out there who wants to defend Rand.

Coach Dave (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Squirrel Police?

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Who needs a lurker when you've got Dang P.

milo z (mlp), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:33 (seventeen years ago) link

maybe we can find someone from this?

The Atlasphere: Ayn Rand Dating & Networking

ath (ath), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:34 (seventeen years ago) link

MYRIGHTFULLYEARNEDSPACE.COM

ath (ath), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:35 (seventeen years ago) link

The problem is that any of Rand's ideas that carry any intellectual weight have been formulated by better thinkers.

James Herbert Dip (noodle vague), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:36 (seventeen years ago) link

I hope neil peart gets a part in this.

timmy tannin (pompous), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:40 (seventeen years ago) link

even the name objectivist is goofy.

jhoshea megafauna (scoopsnoodle), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:44 (seventeen years ago) link

shit, i can't find a screengrab of Officer Barbrady talking about Atlas Shrugged was so bad he's never going to read again

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 19 October 2006 16:51 (seventeen years ago) link

anyone heard penn jillette's radio show? libertarian talk radio.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 19 October 2006 17:16 (seventeen years ago) link

I was prepared to physically carry you to this thread if you didn't stumble upon it yourself.

As a fan of massive lulz this is great news

Karius whisper (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 12:52 (five years ago) link

The original movie is pretty excellent if you've never seen it

Karius whisper (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 12:54 (five years ago) link

It always irritates me to go to a bookstore and see Ayn Rand shelved with the "Classics". She's just so irretrievable bad.

Black cover Penguin classic :(

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 12:54 (five years ago) link

I was prepared to physically carry you to this thread if you didn't stumble upon it yourself.

i felt a great disturbance in the luminerferous aether and was irresistably compelled to investigate

Don't know if Zack's looking for notes but Tom Cruise was born to play Roark

Karius whisper (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 12:57 (five years ago) link

nailed it

Arm0nd's review is legitimately going to be a masterpiece and is actually already written.

nourish nourish your turtleheart (Eric H.), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 12:59 (five years ago) link

i just can't wait to see how snyder, who is perhaps second only to michael bay in the cinematic-adhd stakes, handles endless scenes of extremely tedious dialogue

isn't vince vaughn a big libertarian shithead? he'd probably kill to play roark

Surely Snyder could have a Dr. Parnassus-esque rotating cast of alpha dudes playing the role.

I wonder if Jon Hamm would do it.

jmm, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 13:47 (five years ago) link

Gary Cooper will be tough to beat

Karius whisper (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 13:50 (five years ago) link

It'll almost certainly be Cavill, won't it. I can feel it.

John Cena

nourish nourish your turtleheart (Eric H.), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 13:53 (five years ago) link

I could never hack the Cooper version w/out MST3K, let alone reading Rand

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 13:56 (five years ago) link

but the man was born to play fascists tbf

Karius whisper (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 13:57 (five years ago) link

Courtroom scene: Roark monologues for two minutes before Zack gets bored. Cut to zoom-in shot of a jar of urine. Cut to Roark dynamiting the courthouse with all the socialists inside.

jmm, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 14:04 (five years ago) link

John Cena

― nourish nourish your turtleheart (Eric H.), Tuesday, May 29, 2018 8:53 AM (sixteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Misread this as 'Jon Secada' and nearly sprayed a mouthful of coffee across my monitor.

It'll almost certainly be Cavill, won't it. I can feel it.


cavill seems like a total dick irl so there’s a decent chance he’s already a rand fan tbh

you know who i really want for this? paul ryan

I think I'd be willing to wager a good deal of money that there's a videotape in existence containing a homemade adaptation of The Fountainhead starring Paul Ryan.

Or, at the very least, a dog-eared copy of the book with many instances of 'Roark Ryan' throughout.

It always irritates me to go to a bookstore and see Ayn Rand shelved with the "Classics". She's just so irretrievable bad.

― A is for (Aimless), Monday, May 28, 2018 10:49 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Really she belongs in self-help. Self-help for complete assholes who want to feel ok about being assholes.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 15:45 (five years ago) link

two months pass...

When the first Atlas Shrugged film came out they asked for fans to say "I am john galt" to add to a dvd extra. The results are some of the best, most strange youtube videos you'll ever see pic.twitter.com/lVoSSSyQ0h

— Cruiskeen Lawnmower Deth (@NoChorus) August 11, 2018

Karl Malone, Sunday, 12 August 2018 03:35 (five years ago) link

Strangely, there was only one in that group of a couple dozen youtubes that featured a person of color, at least that I noticed.

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 12 August 2018 03:51 (five years ago) link


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