CNN: S/D

As for "information" and "public opinion," I wasn't aware that those things, whatever you mean by them, have no force outside of America. Curious.

But dude what am I talking about?? You "search" Aaron Brown and Wolf Blitzer. You are clearly not to be trusted w/opinions on television news!

2.My second post was in response to you saying:
"the coverage of this war by all U.S. network news stations was just shameful and saddening. it was the kind of thing that makes you want to give up all hope for this country. the newspapers weren't much better. people in this country deserve so much better and they have no idea how badly they are beeing hoodwinked and lied to"
I was questioning your labeling of CNN "shameful and saddening" because their reporting wasn't in line with your point of view.

let me put a big fat fucking D on Lou Dobbs' racist, inflammatory series on illegal immigration

anyway, someone confirm this rumor for me: anderson cooper is gay.

I wasn't excusing it. Initally I was questioning why you you and Scott were in an uproar specifically about CNN. I don't think their biases were any worse than any American news outlet. Comparing their reporting on American news to the BBC's is irrelevant because when making the decision on what nightly news to watch for the average American, the BBC plays no role. You can use them for a standard, perhaps, on how American networks SHOULD report, but to say that CNN (or NBC or CBS or whoever) is worthless and evil because it doesn't match the BBC's standards misses the point of the original question. We should be doing something to change the effect Advertisers have on the media, yes, but while that's happening, I still need to watch the news and I don't think CNN is particularly bad option.

"As for "information" and "public opinion," I wasn't aware that those things, whatever you mean by them, have no force outside of America. Curious."
What a British audience will watch regarding America is very different from what an American audience will watch.

"But dude what am I talking about?? You "search" Aaron Brown and Wolf Blitzer. You are clearly not to be trusted w/opinions on television news! "

I think both of them are entertaining anchors and I'm able (as I'm sure you are) to filter the information I get from them.

Definitely.

Colin, i did watch BBC America during the outbreak of the war and i have to say i preferred it to anything else. it was a relief actually to get a break from the bad graphics and theme songs.

and obviously, nothing against you here. just ranting a little. they piss me off THAT MUCH.

The entities the White House considers important on any given day, CNN does too. The relationships the White House considers important on any given day, CNN does too. They don't even have the institutional memory for knowing how these relationships change over time. I don't think they're "Republican" or something, because they had the same kind of lazy approach when Bill Clinton was President.

There was an article somewhere after GWB did his "mission accomplished" dealie, flying in on a jet and everything, where a British journalist who attended that press conference was shocked at the obsequiousness of the Q&A afterwards, given all the questions that remained in the air. "In England," he said "the first thing we'd ask is 'how much did the taxpayers pay for the fuel in that jet?'"

"How am I supposed to "filter" that, if CNN is my news source? If facts were coffee, you'd be drinking a mighty weak brew."

By getting your news from a variety of sources. To say that BBC or Information Clearing House or Disinfo or whoever you're listening to are without their own biases is just as naive to only pay attention to CNN.

I don't watch enough to BBC to comment, but AP and Reuters, as wire services, function very differently than CNN, as a cable network. The question I raised initally was not "Is CNN the most reliable, ethical news service in the world?" but "Why all the anger directed specifically at CNN, when they're no worse than any other major network?".
I think what makes the issue of TV News more contentious than newspapers is that there's no real "editor", whose biases and agendas are clear. This was brought up a couple days ago when networks were trying to figure out how they should report the John Kerry affair story.

Results! (sort of - former CNN honcho Rick Kaplan apparently moving in at MSNBC)

"I need professional help" -- CNN's Wolf Blitzer, on his taxes ("Situation Room," 4/17).

Question:
http://www.cnn.com/2009/LIVING/03/19/cnnheroes.jorge.munoz/index.html

What is he serving???

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/LIVING/03/19/cnnheroes.jorge.munoz/art.heroes.munoz.cnn.jpg

headline that they had up on screen for about 3 minutes just now:

"Pres. Obama Joins GOP"

WTF 40% decline in viewership since last year?!? that is insane. cancel this shit somebody

If someone came up to me and said "hey, if you cut off a finger, I can arrange for Wolf Blitzer to be fired and run out of the news business" I might consider the offer.

i think trying to play down the middle of the political spectrum has killed their viability

their "objectivity" was always a total joke anyway

i wonder if the end of lou dobbs tonight has had much of an effect

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/LIVING/personal/06/03/spiritual.but.not.religious/c1mainspiritual.jpg

What is 'spiritual but not religious'?

http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/TV/09/08/morgan.replaces.king/index.html?hpt=C1

will anyone notice?

Will he have to wear those braces too?

Not black or white: It's 'brown' comedy

http://www.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/01/31/obeidallah.brown.comedy/index.html?hpt=C2

Hundreds of people recently jammed themselves into a basement in New York City to listen to people with names like Mohammed, Nader, Aasif and Maysoon. What were they up to? Should the authorities be contacted? Is it time to raise the terror alert?

Nope, it was just another episode of "The Big Brown Comedy Hour," a stand-up show featuring a diverse group of comedians: Arabs, Indians, Iranians, Pakistanis and others...

zomg I saw this just now on CNN and my brain exploded.

"What if I told you Muslims were bringing the house down tonight -- not with blocks of C4 strapped to their chests, but through the power of comedy and laughter?"

"Did you know that Arabs, Indians & Pakistanis are FUNNY?"

They aren't black, Hispanic or white. They're brown.

Often, "hispanic" people refer to themselves as brown. Just saying!

Soooo...where does John Boehner fit into this category? Or is he more Orange.

I hate their views but I could watch and marvel at Fox's bluster a thousand times before I can stomach Wolf Blitzer single out a blue tie the President's wearing and asking, "Is it a purple tie for bipartisanship?"

I can buy that. It's like the way NPR radio sometimes acts like it's a nature program for humans. And in doing this detached bemused reportage pushes its subjects down worse than if they just came out and said, "I cannot relate to you on any level so I am going to pretend that I can."

Wolf Blitzer was hyping an Osama bin Laden story after the break, new information about his last days: "...the love letters he was writing, the attacks he was planning." The wording made me laugh. Feels like it needs a third part: "the parties he was planning," "the scrapbooks he was assembling," "the blogs he was launching," something like that. At least he was keeping busy, I guess.

D

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/651093017181466625

CNN had Jamal Simmons on today as a commentator. He was on pretty much every day in 2008, hardly at all in 2012, and haven't seen him since. Liked him a lot in '08--hope he's back on a regular basis.

CNN (TV news in general) gets pilloried around here--I do it all the time--but Jake Tapper's interview with Scott Cross, the victim who spoke out against Dennis Hastert, was as good as it gets. I missed the Hastert story completely, till today (he was just released from prison).

Making this title available to the world for a book on modern-day media's (especially CNN, and especially during the pandemic) 24-hour breaking-news/panic addiction: No News Is Terrible News.

I generally like Jim Acosta, but this morning, in the space of 10 seconds--prefacing both with "As I like to call it"--he said "bonfire of the insanities" and "lord of the lies." Ouch.

I guess Jeffrey Toobin has been reinstated.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/23/politics/supreme-court-first-amendment-cheerleader/index.html

CNN chief executive Chris Licht to leave network after weeks of criticism
A tumultuous town hall with former president Donald Trump, a scathing article and ratings freefall preceded his downfall

Just came to post that...Someone posted the Atlantic piece on a different thread; I downloaded it so it wouldn't disappear behind a paywall, planned to read it, now he's gone.

that don lemon thing with musk is just TOOOO rich if you hate don lemon.