ILX Parenting 3: Back In (Potty) Training

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Steps!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GGW8FiFEcg

onimo, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 21:56 (sixteen years ago) link

wow, onimo, that's proper walking! it's hard to imagine a time when lulu will be so steady and confident on her tootsies. or running around with ava, even!

archel, alice looks extremely pleased to be lucifer's minion, I'd watch out for that one. she's going to be a biscuit thief for sure!

louis is looking so grown-up! it sounds like he might be ready and willing for the potty training but I know what you mean about wishing it was a bit warmer. ava wasn't very verbal at first either, it took ages of us asking her every half hour if she needed a wee before she'd volunteer the info without prodding, I think she just got so irritated at being badgered about it that she started telling us when she needed to go!

I'm taking lulu for her first MMR jab in a couple of hours, urgh.

craft ho, Thursday, 8 November 2007 09:42 (sixteen years ago) link

My goodness, Ava's pitch is great for a toddler. She's going to turn into a supersongstress like Mom.

Madchen, Thursday, 8 November 2007 13:34 (sixteen years ago) link

That's some great walking from M! Alice shows no sign of wanting to strike out alone yet, although she is never happier than when cruising round the furniture.

And you're so right pam, in fact she's a massive biscuit thief already. She can sniff out an unwary toddler at fifty paces and is expert at distracting them while she quietly reaches out for the custard cream in their hand. This morning she got stuck under a chair at baby group because she had spotted a hula hoop underneath it from the other side of the room...

Archel, Thursday, 8 November 2007 15:15 (sixteen years ago) link

Aw, Pam, Ava is like your mini-me! That's adorable! Megan walking is so cool as well, as is devil-Alice and pumpkin-Louis. These threads are so great for watching them all grow up :-)

ailsa, Thursday, 8 November 2007 20:11 (sixteen years ago) link

(oh, and obviously massive AAAWWWWWWWW at Ophelia and Lisa)

ailsa, Thursday, 8 November 2007 20:11 (sixteen years ago) link

And I though Ava couldn't possibly get any cuter. Wow.

ENBB, Thursday, 8 November 2007 20:20 (sixteen years ago) link

It's their first birthday today, so... here are some pictures!

Owen on his sweet new trike:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2394/1882750390_c8adf1620c.jpg

Ben and Owen at the park:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2273/1927200796_bfe9a074dd.jpg

Owen at one year:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2377/1927247960_3ce382294c.jpg

schwantz, Friday, 9 November 2007 16:08 (sixteen years ago) link

happy birthday O and B!!

sunny successor, Friday, 9 November 2007 16:47 (sixteen years ago) link

They're plotting in those little caps of theirs. Activating their Wonder Twin powers.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 November 2007 16:49 (sixteen years ago) link

Already a YEAR? My god, does time fly! Congrats!

Hey Teeny how's the vocalizing/linguistic skillz going? O has been forming sentences for a few weeks now. It's freaky how much she understands and how well she's able to express herself. :-)

nathalie, Friday, 9 November 2007 16:59 (sixteen years ago) link

"Mommy, want computer."

Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 November 2007 16:59 (sixteen years ago) link

Happy birthday to the handsome crimefighting duo Ben + Owen! Ava and Lulu raise a glass and bottle respectively to their continued good health! Also I'm pretty sure I heard Ava mutter "party on".

craft ho, Friday, 9 November 2007 20:03 (sixteen years ago) link

Please, someone on this thread with children, explain what the hell this is:

http://sillyape.org/trash/get_ready_for_blastoff.jpg

HI DERE, Friday, 9 November 2007 20:46 (sixteen years ago) link

It looks like a device for teaching kids how to go to the toilet without having to undo your pants.

StanM, Friday, 9 November 2007 20:56 (sixteen years ago) link

It appears to be a last ditch solution for stubborn kids who resist potty training. "You want to be let out? You know what to do."

mike a, Friday, 9 November 2007 21:05 (sixteen years ago) link

THE TARDLET

Mark C, Friday, 9 November 2007 21:58 (sixteen years ago) link

Something to do with waterboarding...

schwantz, Friday, 9 November 2007 22:20 (sixteen years ago) link

The shinstraps are the worst bit of that contraption. And the colours.

I've now digitised two hours (26GB!) of mini-DV tapes so I may get carried away with YouTubing the gals. Here's Lulu snoozing...finally, in her high-chair at Grandma's back in September. I could mix in some Harry Hill preamble and a laff-track if you like...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YacFEByCHKM

Michael Jones, Friday, 9 November 2007 23:44 (sixteen years ago) link

So Beeps did this for the first time yesterday:

http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/2236/im003758bx7.jpg

And yes, we've moved the books out of the way now.

Pleasant Plains, Sunday, 11 November 2007 15:37 (sixteen years ago) link

cute!!! in the last 2 weeks beeps learned to sit up from laying down position, creep on tummy, crawl on hands and knees and pull herself up to standing. progresso! oh, and say "mama mama mamamamamamamamamammmmmmmmm"

sunny successor, Monday, 12 November 2007 15:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Tardlet? TURDLET.

C J, Monday, 12 November 2007 15:03 (sixteen years ago) link

dude, that had better be an xxxxxxpost

sunny successor, Monday, 12 November 2007 15:04 (sixteen years ago) link

Yes, yes!

C J, Monday, 12 November 2007 15:05 (sixteen years ago) link

Beeps is such a cutie!!! <3

nathalie, Monday, 12 November 2007 15:07 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm waiting for her and Charlotte to form a band.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 12 November 2007 15:11 (sixteen years ago) link

That's some good development spurting from beeps, woo!

I am currently praying that Alice has not caught chickenpox, after one of the baby group mums found out that she's got it... in the meantime, here's a toothy A with a toothsome pineapple:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2194/1985701946_0a035f4a89.jpg?v=0

Archel, Monday, 12 November 2007 15:49 (sixteen years ago) link

wow, beeps is going to be running a marathon by the end of the month! and the chatting is great! we have yet to get so much as a single 'ma' out of lulu, much less a 'mama'. she's got 'gah!' down pat, with an occasional 'da' when she's feeling fruity.

cute picture of alice! unlike you archel, I have been trying to get chickenpox out of the way for going on three years now but no dice. every time any of their friends get it we're over there like a shot but just can't catch it no matter how close they hang out together. I'd rather her get it now than when she's in school. there's never a good time for them to be sick but if alice gets it now it may not be so bad, ava's friends lucked out with not many spots and not much more discomfort than a bad cold. mike didn't get it till he was in his 30s and it's so much worse to get as an adult. I knew someone who got it in college and he had blisters the size of QUARTERS!

craft ho, Monday, 12 November 2007 17:57 (sixteen years ago) link

I have never had mumps, this worries me intensely.

Porkpie, Monday, 12 November 2007 21:18 (sixteen years ago) link

Mumps is part of the MMR vaccine though? So there's no reason kids should get it these days (and therefore you should be okay).

Mark C, Monday, 12 November 2007 21:52 (sixteen years ago) link

chris, you can book yourself in for an MMR vaccine, it's not just for kiddies anymore. after a routine blood test when I was preggers with ava I was told that I'd never been vaccinated for rubella in my untamed youth. they no longer give single vaccines so I had to get an MMR before I could get pregnant again.

it's pretty unlikely you'd get mumps but since kids don't get the MMR jab till after a year old, I guess there's a slight chance a baby could catch it and pass it on, there was a measles thing going around a couple of years ago right when a few of ava's pals were scheduled to get the jab (she'd just had it so had a narrow escape).

here's munchkin the younger cruising furniture:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2345/1955100982_3b26b136f0.jpg

craft ho, Monday, 12 November 2007 22:23 (sixteen years ago) link

Funny to think that when our kids are having kids and worrying about these things, we'll be telling them that we had mumps or German measles or whatever when we were young, and they'll look at us like we had scurvy or black death?

Mark C, Monday, 12 November 2007 22:38 (sixteen years ago) link

Now I realize what it means to have two kids: Both have a cold. :-( Liesje has to take some meds - *squirt* it in her mouth as she doesn't do the bottle - because she has phlegm (???) on her lungs. This night was a disaster as both were coughing 'n' wheezing. Ophelia's alright but lying down the phlegm builds up and she doesn't know how to get rid of it, I guess. She had the nastiest cough ever. Sounded like a asthma attack. *sigh* Apart from that, Liesje sleeps quite a bit but drinks less as she has a runny/stuffy nose. Poor thing. :-(

stevienixed, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 13:44 (sixteen years ago) link

Also her reflux is pretty bad as a result. Again: poor thing. I have to hold her up slanted (and enchanted heh).

stevienixed, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 13:45 (sixteen years ago) link

Poorly baby here too -- we have just spent three nights in hospital as Howie has bronchiolitis. We called the doctor out on Saturday night as he was sounding a bit wheezy, expecting to be told to give him Calpol and put him to bed -- next thing we know, we're being blue-lighted an ambulance and hooked up to oxygen in hospital :(

Anyway we are back home today after a worrying few days, he is still poorly but breathing much better, and will recover faster without nurses coming in every 20 minutes around the clock to poke and prod him.

Meg Busset, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 15:23 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh my lord. That's frightening, Meg. Good thing you can call out doctors on a saturday night. Sure can't do that here.

I hope O, L and H are feeling much better soon. Beeps' ear infection sure seems trivial now.

Archel, you take the best photos!

sunny successor, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 15:26 (sixteen years ago) link

Awww and sweet lulu! Did you guys get a lot of falling and resulting baby injuries when they started pulling up/cruising? Beeps busted her lip open last night falling from a standing position on to a toy. First time she's bled, I guess. I'm thinking we'll see a whole lot of this in the near future.

sunny successor, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 15:29 (sixteen years ago) link

Yikes, Meg. Poor Howie and poor you, hope he's better soon (and I'm sure you'll all get back to normal quicker without the prodding and poking - we have SO had enough of that after Alice's two hospital stays.)

The only injuries Alice has really sustained are bumps on the head from when she was at the standing/cruising stage but couldn't yet manage to land on her bottom if she fell, she'd just go straight backwards in a vaguely comedy fashion.

Archel, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 16:49 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh, and Matt is usually responsible for the photos, not me, I must confess...

Archel, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 16:50 (sixteen years ago) link

all these poorly babes, I hope everybody's on the mend soon! meg, you must've been so worried, glad howie's recouping in the comforts of home now. I know they're a necessary and often life-saving evil, but crap I hate hospitals - no sleep allowed!

we haven't had any major tumbles since lulu started cruising furniture but egads I'm sure they're coming. I'm just waiting for the day lulu gets a bit more confident on her feet but still doesn't have the best balance - that quick walking thing new walkers do where they're really trucking across a room and then suddenly lose their balance and go face first into furniture makes me wince thinking about it.

hope elisabeth and ophelia ditch the colds soon! our gals are always sick at the same time. they've both had snotty faucet noses for what seems like weeks now.

craft ho, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 18:57 (sixteen years ago) link

X-posted to Archel: Yeah, it's just great when the nurse bursts in at 2am, announces loudly, "Hi, I've just come to have a look at him", turns the light on, peers at him and says, "Oh, he's awake then?"

Also loving the monitor that, when his heart rate goes above a certain level, sets off an ear-splitting alarm that spooks the life out of him and, amazingly, makes his heart rate go up even more.

Meg Busset, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 19:06 (sixteen years ago) link

it'll be ok when lulu starts testing her limits, pam - you just have to live with a certain number of bumps and bruises. abby still gets them at almost two years old, and she just kind of forgets about it after a few seconds.

is it common for preschoolers to form specific parental alliances? our eldest just wants mommy to help her with everything - when i do try to help, half the time she demands mommy, even if it's a simple task. meanwhile, the youngest is apparently running my wife ragged with her mischief, but she's all sweetness and light around me...

mike a, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 20:27 (sixteen years ago) link

Completely natural, Mike, and it even changes from year to year. Ophelia doesn't have a really strong preference, but she does tend to hang on to my husband more. I think it's partially because I was so pregnant, I couldn't carry her (nor was/am I able to take care of her as much as before). My husband is ace, he's been taking care of O more (like mornings he will wash, dress and feed her) while I take care of Liesje.

stevienixed, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 20:52 (sixteen years ago) link

actually, yeah, ava's still getting bumps too. she fell off a chair last night trying to squeeze onto it with mike and landed on her head and then this morning when we were visiting a school contender and waiting for the tour to start, I turned away to wipe lulu's nose and she did it again! she's got a big old bruisy egg hidden under her fringe.

we totally have the parental alliance problem and I'm the chosen one at the moment. after 12+ hours of wrangling both of them I really need a break when mike comes in from work, but if ava so much as stubs a toe she only wants mummy and is hysterical unless I come back downstairs. it's the same in the middle of the night, on the weekends, all the dang time. god I love her to bits but it would be so nice if she'd let mike be the comforter sometimes.

craft ho, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 21:12 (sixteen years ago) link

beeps is evry much daddy for playtime and mommy for boo-hoo sooky time. its sweet but it kind of sucks too.

pull up injury number two reported from daycare: cut finger while trying to open a door (!?!?!)

sunny successor, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 22:00 (sixteen years ago) link

Pam's right about Ava's Mom thing, y'know...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2172/2007995885_1c8ffa674e.jpg

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 00:41 (sixteen years ago) link

Part 2 in the series 'Alice posing with amusingly large fruits and vegetables':

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2202/2020567960_73c0ea8883.jpg?v=0

Archel, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 17:35 (sixteen years ago) link

Look at Alice, too cute! Meg, I hope Howie's feeling better. A baby on my online birth club got bronchiolitis, scary stuff. I hadn't even heard of it before then.

Nath, hope you aren't suffering too much with your two having colds, hope they get better soon.

I'm incensed with IKEA at the minute. We got a second hand IKEA cot via Pam and i went to buy a new mattress on monday. Well apparently they've changed cot sizes, but they claim that if you take the old cot and buy a new mattress they will replace the cot. I thought I'd give it a try, but the customer service women I 'spoke' to on their chat service says that because the cot is two years old they won't replace it! I'm sorry, but how many people will be reusing the cot for child no.2 much less than two years after they bought the cot? I know I was a bit cheeky trying it on as I hadn't bought the cot in the first place, but for anyone who did actually buy a cot was was hoping to use it again it would be rather annoying.

I did think we could just shove the mattress in, as it's just a wee bit too big, and we did do just that, but it's weakened one end of the cot which collapsed this morning at 7am with Aidan in it, whoops.... He was fine, just got dropped over to one side a wee bit. guess I'd better get the wood glue out for a patch up job and go buy a new cot for long term.

I've finally decided which washable nappies I want to use, after trying out various makes, and waiting until he's not soiling every single nappy! We're going for bum genius 2.0 which should fit him for a very long time. I've got two and have been very impressed. I was using terries when I was visiting my parents, and it was easier than I expected but the bum genius are even easier and definitely less bulky. They're about the same price in dollars in the US as they are in pounds in the uk, so I'm going to buy them over there and get my sister to ship them over. Archel, are you still using washables?

My boy is starting to look very grown up, scary stuff!

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2268/1973592681_73fe884a01.jpg?v=0

Vicky, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 18:31 (sixteen years ago) link

that is totally annoying news about the ikea size switcharoo - a couple of days ago after some spectacular milk spillage in lulu's cot (ex-ava's) I was thinking it was time to buy a new mattress, but I guess I won't be doing that now. vicky, it's probably not worth the hassle but I wonder if you schlepped it in there in person if the people at customer services wouldn't know the diff or would take one look at handsome aidan and have mercy on a hassled mum and do the exchange anyway?

I do hope this series of alice with fruits and veg is going to continue!

craft ho, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 19:21 (sixteen years ago) link

Wow Vick, Aidan REALLY looks like Chris in that picture, but a lot like you as well, somehow.

We were still using washables (Little Lamb then Motherease donated in bulk by a friend) until a couple of months ago but we moved and no longer have a washing machine... I have never heard of bum genius but I didn't find using washables much hassle - until it came to going out for long periods when we always used disposables I must admit. And it is annoying the way that most baby clothes are made to be worn with disposables.

Archel, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 21:05 (sixteen years ago) link

DO IT

sunny successor, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 21:14 (fifteen years ago) link

i will - ILE or 77? thats yr only choice other than the vote - after that it is out of yr guys' hands

deeznuts, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 21:17 (fifteen years ago) link

btw split vote = i choose

deeznuts, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 21:18 (fifteen years ago) link

wow i dont know. more bros on 77 but more peeps on ile. you decide

sunny successor, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 21:26 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't know, deez. Singing "Beats Street, Queen of the beat, you see her rocking that beat from across the street" to her at night ain't gonna sound the same if her name is "Beeps".

Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 21:39 (fifteen years ago) link

not to mention "we got the beat"

sunny successor, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 21:41 (fifteen years ago) link

well you two might just have to get 'creative' & substitute 'beep' for 'beat'

deal with it motherfuckers

we are polling on 77 in t-5 min i submit that all ILXP's be invited if they have not been already

deeznuts, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 21:48 (fifteen years ago) link

no mentions of 77 on this thread pls. Some of us aren't that cool.

schwantz, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 23:32 (fifteen years ago) link

(Or invite me)

schwantz, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 23:50 (fifteen years ago) link

whats yr ilx email SCHWAAAAAAAAAAAAN? ill feel very powerful if i successfully invite another user

deeznuts, Wednesday, 25 June 2008 01:14 (fifteen years ago) link

Hi everybody, see you in December!

Dr. Superman, Wednesday, 25 June 2008 02:04 (fifteen years ago) link

preggers!!!

sunny successor, Wednesday, 25 June 2008 02:05 (fifteen years ago) link

Can I repeat: HELLISH. Last couple of days it was 4 or 5 am. ARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Then an accident as well, she fell off the diaper table. But (I hope) nothing's wrong. Thank god. So has anyone gritted their teeth and let their baby cry? I still can't. Silly me. :-( I'm going completely k-razeee tho.

stevienixed, Wednesday, 25 June 2008 05:23 (fifteen years ago) link

i could let beeps cry to some degree at infant stage but i cant now. i guess because she can communicate better now so crying more often than not does mean something is wrong. poor nath. do you have someone who can give you a day, or at least a night, off where you can hide in your bedroom with earplugs in?

sunny successor, Wednesday, 25 June 2008 14:59 (fifteen years ago) link

3 months away.....and its a boy! just one, we thought two....but just one. We have decided to name him Cole.

thebingoisback, Thursday, 26 June 2008 19:47 (fifteen years ago) link

Thank your lucky stars ;)

schwantz, Thursday, 26 June 2008 20:21 (fifteen years ago) link

BINGO! Awesome! Very happy for you and yours! (it's Huk-L, btw)

Dr. Superman, Thursday, 26 June 2008 22:20 (fifteen years ago) link

Huck and Chris! You guys!

Mark C, Thursday, 26 June 2008 22:48 (fifteen years ago) link

Yay! I like Cole - I have a beautiful nephew by that name.

Michael Jones, Thursday, 26 June 2008 22:58 (fifteen years ago) link

Wow, people be sprogging! congrats, you guys!

ailsa, Thursday, 26 June 2008 23:06 (fifteen years ago) link

Beautiful. How old are these boys now? Do I remember you saying they could say the alphabet at 18 months? Beats is 16 months next week and all she says is "DADA!!!"

sunny successor, Sunday, 29 June 2008 07:12 (fifteen years ago) link

OK, we're moving up to 4!
Using sunny's title...
ILX Parenting 4: We make our own people

Ned Trifle II, Sunday, 29 June 2008 11:37 (fifteen years ago) link

eleven months pass...

Think we might be approaching this time with Howie -- in the last few days he has done a wee on the potty every night at bathtime, and asked for the potty this morning.

I have TEH FEAR over putting him in pants and spending the next x weeks wiping up accidents (especially as I'm glued to a breastfeeding newborn half the day) so am considering going via pull-ups, and leaving pants til he is reliable at letting me know when he needs to go. OTOH some say it's best just to stick 'em in pants and put up with the mess for a while...

So... any tips?

Meg (Meg Busset), Tuesday, 16 June 2009 12:38 (fourteen years ago) link

Argh, meant to start a new thread on this. Pls ignore this one!

Meg (Meg Busset), Tuesday, 16 June 2009 12:39 (fourteen years ago) link


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