Year-End Critics' Polls '08

^^^Geir's contribution to this thread encapsulated

Guys I missed all of Marcello's racist nonsense and am going back in time to say that, while I can barely bring myself to care about these lists anymore, that DiS intro was possibly the worst thing I've read in my entire life.

Blog Said the Gramophone have posted their 50 best songs of 2008. I love this one:

http://www.saidthegramophone.com/archives/best_songs_of_2008.php

omg that youtube

Other Music best of 08 topped by El Guincho, Crystal Stilts, Grouper ...

http://www.othermusic.com/2008december11update.html

Pitchfork Top 50 countdown starts

Surprised to see Weezy that low, and I've never even heard of See You In Court. Any good?

was that supposed to be a rickroll? The page is broken.

See You In Court is awesome

I've never heard Living Colour but I find TVotR boring, so I'm intrigued by this. I still don't understand why the response to Marcello's original post and visual gag was so angry and inspired such a long argument. I think the lady doth protest too much.

Aftenposten scrapped their English language website recently, so only Geir can read the blurbs.

But they never had many English language articles on music, did they?

Anyway... Not much to comment otherwise. Marcello is Marcello. The Lex is The Lex. Nothing new....

And I am not too impressed by those lists myself, but that is because 2008 wasn't a particularly good vintage, not because the lists are seriously wrong. The American dominance is actually deserved, which says more about the current state of British music. The old names are still great, but they need some new names that are a bit less "rock".

(And still song-oriented and melodic, needless to say)

boooooooooooring

http://www.largeheartedboy.com/blog/archive/2008/11/2008_yearend_on_1.html lots of lists

Other Music best of 08 topped by El Guincho, Crystal Stilts, Grouper ...

that el guincho album is pretty good. surprised it's not more widely cited. seems like it could've at least gotten the slot reserved for manu chao or congotronics or something.

Yep, everytime I return to El Guincho it seems like I am hearing it for the first time... in a good way.

Surprised the Dig Lazarus isn't on more lists. It'll be in my Top Five and it's almost nowhere to be seen.

It's on virtually every list!

There's even a separate ilx thread with people grumbling that's overrated and they don't understand why it is showing up on so many lists

http://trustedadvisor.com/public/Image/Ostrich%20head%20in%20sand%20small.jpg

Dig Harry Dig!

Irony... a fading gift.

Vibe's Top 80 Songs:

80. Joe Budden ft. Joell Ortiz, Nino Bless, Crooked-I & Royce Da 5'9", "Slaughterhouse" (Amalgam)
79. Duffy, "Mercy" (Mercury)
78. MGMT ft. Jim Jones, "Electric Feel (Remix)" (mixtapes)
77. Sheek Louch, "Good Love" (Koch)
76. Mr. Vegas, "Tek Weh Yuh Self" (Delicious Vinyl)
75. Danity Kane, "Damaged" (Bad Boy/Atlantic)
74. G Unit ft. Young Buck, "Rider, Pt. 2" (G Unit/Shady/Aftermath)
73. Tricky, "Puppy Toy" (Domino)
72. Red Cafe ft. 50 Cent, Fat Joe, Jadakiss & Fabolous, "Paper Touchin' (Remix)" (mixtapes)
71. Mariah Carey, "Touch My Body" (Island)

70. Leona Lewis, "Bleeding Love" (J)
69. Ciara ft. T-Pain, "Go Girl" (LaFace/Zomba)
68. Busta Rhymes ft. Ron Browz, "Arab Money" (Flipmode/Universal Motown)
67. Keri Hilson ft. Lil Wayne, "Turnin' Me On" (Mosley Music/Interscope)
66. Esperanza Spalding, "She Got to You" (Heads Up)
65. Charles Hamilton, "Brooklyn Girls" (mixtape)
64. Hot Stylz ft. Yung Joc, "Lookin Boy" (mixtapes)
63. Slim ft. Jadakiss & Freeway, "So Fly (Remix)" (mixtapes)
62. Yung L.A. ft. Young Dro & T.I., "Ain't I (Remix)" (mixtapes)
61. Chris Brown, "Take You Down" (Jive/Zomba)

60. Beyonce, "Single Ladies (Put a Ring on It)" (Music World/Columbia)
59. Solange, "I Decided Pt. 1" (Music World/Geffen)
58. David Banner ft. Chris Brown and Yung Joc, "Get Like Me" (SRC/Universal Motown)
57. Lloyd ft. Lil Wayne, "Girls Around the World" (The Inc./Universal Motown)
56. Al Green ft. John Legend, "Stay with Me (By the Sea)" (Blue Note)
55. Rocko ft. Young Jeezy, T.I., Boo & Big Kuntry King, "Umma Do Me (Remix)" (mixtapes)
54. Portishead, "Threads" (Island)
53. Wale, "The Crazy" (mixtape)
52. Rihanna, "Don't Stop the Music" (Def Jam)
51. Rich Boy, "Chevy a Monsta" (mixtape)

50. Rick Ross ft. Nelly & Avery Storm, "Here I Am" (Slip-N-Slide/Def Jam)
49. Young Jeezy ft. Nas, "My President" (CTE/Def Jam)
48. Keyshia Cole, "Heaven Sent" (Geffen)
47. Coldplay, "Viva La Vida" (EMI)
46. Swizz Beatz, "That Oprah" (mixtapes)
45. New Kids on the Block ft. Ne-Yo, "Single" (Interscope)
44. Mavado, "So Special" (VP)
43. Bloc Party, "Mercury" (Vice)
42. Jim Jones & Ron Browz ft. Juelz Santan, "Pop Champagne" (Byrd Gang/Columbia)
41. The-Dream, "I Luv Your Girl" (Def Jam)

40. T.I., "What Up, What's Haapnin'" (Grand Hustle/Atlantic)
39. Trina, "Single Again" (Slip-N-Slide)
38. Raphael Saadiq, "Oh Girl" (Columbia)
37. TV on the Radio, "Golden Age" (Interscope)
36. Ray J ft. Yung Berg, "Sexy Can I" (Koch)
35. Maxwell, "Pretty Wings" (Columbia)
34. Webbie ft. Lil Boosie and Lil' Phat, "Independent" (Trill/Asylum)
33. Alicia Keys, "Teenage Love Affair" (J)
32. Plies ft. Ne-Yo, "Bust It Baby Pt. 2" (Big Gates/Slip-N-Slide/Atlantic)
31. Maino ft. T.I., Swizz Beatz, Plies, Jadakiss & Fabolous, "Hi Haters (Remix)" (mixtapes)

30. Mario, "Music for Love" (J)
29. Jordin Sparks ft. Chris Brown, "No Air" (Jive)
28. Kid Cudi, "Day N Nite" (mixtape)
27. T.I. ft. Rihanna, "Live Your Life" (Grand Hustle/Atlantic)
26. Usher ft. Lil Wayne & Beyonce, "Love in This Club Pt. 2" (LaFace/Zomba)
25. Erykah Badu, "Me" (Universal Motown)
24. Lil Wayne, "Dr. Carter" (Cash Money)
23. Mary J. Blige, "Just Fine" (Geffen)
22. Nas, "Queens Get the Money" (Def Jam)
21. John Legend ft. Andre 3000, "Green Light" (G.O.O.D./Columbia)

20. Big Boi ft. Andre 3000 & Raekwon, "Royal Flush" (Jive/LaFace)
19. The Roots ft. Wale, "Rising Up" (Def Jam)
18. Shawty Lo ft. Ludacris, Young Jeezy, Hunt, Akon, Red Cafe, Plies & Lil Wayne, "Dey Know (Remix)" (mixtapes)
17. Robin Thicke, "Magic" (Star Trak/Interscope)
16. Lupe Fiasco ft. Matthew Santos, "Superstar" (1st & 15th/Atlantic)
15. Ryan Leslie ft. Cassie & Fabolous, "Addiction" (Next Selection/Universal Motown)
14. Jay-Z, "Roc Boys (And the Winner Is . . . )" (Roc-a-Fella/Def Jam)
13. Kanye West, "Love Lockdown" (Roc-a-Fella/Def Jam)
12. T.I. ft. Kanye West, Jay-Z & Lil Wayne, "Swagga Like Us" (Grand Hustle/Atlantic)
11. Gnarls Barkley, "Who's Gonna Save My Soul" (Atlantic)

10. Santogold, "Creator" (Downtown)
9. Flo Rida ft. T-Pain, "Low" (Atlantic)
8. Jazmine Sullivan, "Need U Bad" (J)
7. Ne-Yo, "Closer" (Def Jam)
6. Snoop Dogg, "Sexual Eruption" (Geffen)
5. T-Pain ft. Lil Wayne, "Can't Believe It" (Konvict)
4. Estelle ft. Kanye West, "American Boy" (Atlantic)
3. Young Jeezy ft. Kanye West, "Put On" (CTE/Def Jam)
2. Lil Wayne, "A Milli" (Cash Money)
1. Lil Wayne ft. Static Major, "Lollipop" (Cash Money)

That's the best list I've seen yet.

14. Jay-Z, "Roc Boys (And the Winner Is . . . )" (Roc-a-Fella/Def Jam)

o come on

the top 20 ain't bad but let's remember that they named the fabolous/ne-yo song the #1 single of 2007

lol yeah i was just looking back at last year's list because there are so many super old songs like "Roc Boys" that i felt like they must have slipped and listed some songs 2 years in a row

this list is funny too because unlike the indie rock lists where tv on the radio is #1 and lil wayne is thrown in seemingly at random, on here it's the other way around

50. Rick Ross ft. Nelly & Avery Storm, "Here I Am" (Slip-N-Slide/Def Jam)
49. Young Jeezy ft. Nas, "My President" (CTE/Def Jam)
48. Keyshia Cole, "Heaven Sent" (Geffen)
47. Coldplay, "Viva La Vida" (EMI)
46. Swizz Beatz, "That Oprah" (mixtapes)
45. New Kids on the Block ft. Ne-Yo, "Single" (Interscope)
44. Mavado, "So Special" (VP)
43. Bloc Party, "Mercury" (Vice)
42. Jim Jones & Ron Browz ft. Juelz Santan, "Pop Champagne" (Byrd Gang/Columbia)
41. The-Dream, "I Luv Your Girl" (Def Jam)

^^i truly don't know what to make of this group of 10 - please send help

top ten is solid-ish, im not a big fan of "low" but obv it was huge and i think that santogold-apes-MIA song is really stupid-sounding even tho i like her, but otherwise its good -- the next ten are pretty wtf. Gnarls barkley? who tf is still listening to that? i dont know how many people voted but it seems odd that its that high. also i couldnt stand 'superstar' -- if yr gonna do old lupe fiasco songs 'dumb it down' and 'hip hop saved me' are both way better

― merriweather passantino pavilion (J0rdan S.), Saturday, December 13, 2008 9:54 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

50. Rick Ross ft. Nelly & Avery Storm, "Here I Am" (Slip-N-Slide/Def Jam)
49. Young Jeezy ft. Nas, "My President" (CTE/Def Jam)
48. Keyshia Cole, "Heaven Sent" (Geffen)
47. Coldplay, "Viva La Vida" (EMI)
46. Swizz Beatz, "That Oprah" (mixtapes)
45. New Kids on the Block ft. Ne-Yo, "Single" (Interscope)
44. Mavado, "So Special" (VP)
43. Bloc Party, "Mercury" (Vice)
42. Jim Jones & Ron Browz ft. Juelz Santan, "Pop Champagne" (Byrd Gang/Columbia)
41. The-Dream, "I Luv Your Girl" (Def Jam)

^^i truly don't know what to make of this group of 10 - please send help

― merriweather passantino pavilion (J0rdan S.), Saturday, December 13, 2008 9:55 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

hahahha

haha but probably a good 65 songs on there are bangers - the rest is just totally wtf, which i guess is good in a way

otoh should you be rewarded for listing all the good songs on the radio?

i definitely give them credit for listing good radio songs that get ignored on most every other list. also i seriously doubt that that list was 'voted' on rather than just kind of assembled by committee and intensely strategized. i mean they probably had to bend over backwards to get that whole 'year of wayne and kanye' top 5, which is my least favorite part...i mean there's something to be said for tokenism when it means just letting an artist be represented once or twice in a top 10.

weird mavado pick...'on the rock' is much better than 'so special'. obv the first list i've seen that i've enjoyed, even with the wtfisms.

a pity they went for mediocre lead singles to represent some artists though...eg i like 'just fine' just fine but 'roses' is surely loads more outstanding even though it was an album track? and if even rolling stone can bring itself to recognise random ciara leaked tracks, surely vibe doesn't need to choose the mediocre 'go girl' above 'high price', 'echo' or 'work'?

78. MGMT ft. Jim Jones, "Electric Feel (Remix)" (mixtapes)

^^hang on wtf is this

haha file that under "lol @ jim jones"

there are some wtf choices that i kind of understand (lol all rappers love coldplay) but i can't think up one reason why vibe magazine would feel the need to include far and away the worst bloc part song of all time - they don't even have name cache or anything anymore

haha isnt there a thread on that redic remix

Vibe don't have a clue obv. And including Coldplay in such a list is just bullshit as then Coldplay should have been on top. Coldplay are obviously objectively way better than any R&B, hip-hop or dance will ever be.

AAAAAAGH STFU GEIR

I thought it was a joke. Was it not a joke?

geir dropping knowledge

:D

http://solbjorg.com/images/GEIR%20Bottle%20&%20Box%20(straight%20on)%20(1).jpg

Predictable opinions from Geir. The gift that keeps on giving...

What on earth is that particular Portishead song doing in there though?

OMG that Geir aftershave!

Metal Geir Solid

Anyway... Not much to comment otherwise. Marcello is Marcello. The Lex is The Lex. Nothing new....

Have to chuckle at Geir calling someone out for being dogmatic and predictable.

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