The sound of Nirvana

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thanks! I do like the production on that version much better.

sarahel, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 18:52 (thirteen years ago) link

its a pretty great version!

As predicted, nobody is reading my post. (stevie), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 18:54 (thirteen years ago) link

love the JR version! thanks, stevie. kind of funny that he comes up, cuz his blood visions often strikes me as "oppressive" in its sound. approach isn't at all similar to in utero, but the end result does a similar thing to my ears.

agree that the original "frances farmer" is too bombastic for its own good. song's strong enough that i'm more or less okay with the heavy-handed arrangement & recording, though.

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 19:17 (thirteen years ago) link

blood visions often strikes me as "oppressive" in its sound.

otm

As predicted, nobody is reading my post. (stevie), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 19:42 (thirteen years ago) link

is like three times louder than most stuff on my ipod

As predicted, nobody is reading my post. (stevie), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 19:43 (thirteen years ago) link

even on LP it's like being mashed by anvils

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 19:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Man, that JR cover is great! Gotta listen to more JR I guess, never delved too deeply.

grandavis, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 20:11 (thirteen years ago) link

I have the Lost Sounds' Black-Wave just waiting for me to give it a listen...

schizophrenics think I'm hilarious (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 20:27 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.sendspace.com/file/o3n61w

if you want to A/B vig and albini, here's versions of "sappy" recorded before remix/remastering, supposedly.
(to be honest, the only real difference I hear is vig likes the vocal doubling more)

Philip Nunez, Thursday, 5 May 2011 21:23 (thirteen years ago) link

three years pass...

nevermind is not really butch vig's best work imo

don't remember what this meant, probably 8 way santa

don't ask me why i posted this (electricsound), Tuesday, 13 January 2015 03:38 (nine years ago) link

a bad quality Nirvana boot on Youtube is news?

MaresNest, Tuesday, 13 January 2015 11:29 (nine years ago) link

six years pass...

new one I just heard on sports talk radio: the beginning drum fill in “teen spirit” was ripped off from the gap band’s “early in the morning”

brimstead, Saturday, 3 July 2021 00:10 (two years ago) link

I don't buy it, the kick drum is totally different

change display name (Jordan), Saturday, 3 July 2021 00:17 (two years ago) link

dave grohl said it himself on his tv show episode with Pharrell

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 3 July 2021 00:42 (two years ago) link

video here, cant figure out how to link wout linking to rando’s tweet

Super dope. Respect to artists that give their inspirations a shout. Pharrell is really big on that so it's dope that he got the exclusive. lol pic.twitter.com/3N3POZ9Sg2

— Factions2BetaTester (@CR00K__Gaming) June 30, 2021

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 3 July 2021 00:44 (two years ago) link

the Gap Band DNA is probably in that drum fill, but the sheer number of outraged people on Twitter complaining that no one ever gave disco the credit it deserved for influencing Nirvana is a little silly.

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Saturday, 3 July 2021 00:57 (two years ago) link

Dave Grohl is deluding himself idc

change display name (Jordan), Saturday, 3 July 2021 02:11 (two years ago) link

I was foot tapping that “likes to shoot his gun” one earlier

calstars, Saturday, 3 July 2021 02:27 (two years ago) link

finally, disco gets the credit it deserves for dave grohl's drumming

dave grohl does dodge ram commercials

Z_TBD (Karl Malone), Saturday, 3 July 2021 02:33 (two years ago) link

it's times likes these you learn to lease a dodge ram!!
it's times likes these you learn to lease a dodge ram!!, i said,
it's times likes these you learn to lease a dodge ram!!
it's times likes these you learn to lease a dodge ram!!, i said, whoa-oh-oh!

Z_TBD (Karl Malone), Saturday, 3 July 2021 02:34 (two years ago) link

imagine kurdt cobain leasing a dodge ram. gtfo

Z_TBD (Karl Malone), Saturday, 3 July 2021 02:35 (two years ago) link

Has Grohl ever mentioned a disco influence before?

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Saturday, 3 July 2021 02:56 (two years ago) link

Atm I think I agree with Jordan that shifting the kick to the "e" and "a" instead of the "&" seems like a significant difference.

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Saturday, 3 July 2021 03:00 (two years ago) link

Could imagine long grey haired grizzled kurt

calstars, Saturday, 3 July 2021 03:11 (two years ago) link

but that chorus beat is straight Madchester...

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Saturday, 3 July 2021 03:15 (two years ago) link

xp i think it would be like "you know you're right" crossed with modern day dave grohl. on the + side, grohl would be the drummer instead of the front man in this scenario

Z_TBD (Karl Malone), Saturday, 3 July 2021 03:24 (two years ago) link

Has Grohl ever mentioned a disco influence before?

not the same thing but he was vocally stanning for electronic music on the first Foo Fighters promo stuff, iirc. his TV show, which I think was pretty good and entertaining, made it clear he has a broad palate.

burnt hombre (stevie), Saturday, 3 July 2021 08:07 (two years ago) link

The gap band is more funk than disco

《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Saturday, 3 July 2021 08:12 (two years ago) link

Funkmaster Dave Grohl

《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Saturday, 3 July 2021 08:12 (two years ago) link

That drum break is also close to « Funky Cold Medina » with its Funkadelic sample

AlXTC from Paris, Saturday, 3 July 2021 08:23 (two years ago) link

But yeah the Nirvana one is obviously different on the kick

AlXTC from Paris, Saturday, 3 July 2021 08:26 (two years ago) link

not the same thing but he was vocally stanning for electronic music on the first Foo Fighters promo stuff, iirc. his TV show, which I think was pretty good and entertaining, made it clear he has a broad palate.

I mean, there's having a broad palate and there's drawing deeply on Gap Band, Cameo, and Chic for the rhythms of every song on Nevermind? Just seems quite possible that his 30yo memory is being coloured a tad by the lens of the person he's talking to, the current trends, and his most recent project. It's not like people failed to make the connection wrt RHCP's funk influences or NIN's disco and synthpop influences.

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Saturday, 3 July 2021 10:39 (two years ago) link

he does a variation on the kick pattern but that doesn’t make it not a homage

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Saturday, 3 July 2021 12:04 (two years ago) link

The most disco-ish beat on “Nevermind,” and it’s not even particularly disco, is “In Bloom,” and Chad Channing wrote that drum part.

On the other hand I can believe Grohl listened to Tony Thompson - one of the things that initially drew me to Chic’s sound, before I was much of a funk or disco fan, was that the drummer grooves with the best of them but also hits the skins like he’s playing for Led Zeppelin (which he eventually did, of course). Grohl rarely essays a great groove, but that combination of muscle and precision is right there in his playing.

thewufs, Saturday, 3 July 2021 14:44 (two years ago) link

It’s also like the beginning of “hopscotch” by Gwen Guthrie

brimstead, Saturday, 3 July 2021 16:35 (two years ago) link

as grohl played the smells like teen spirit beat, it used up his last remaining store of coolness. he's been post-cool ever since

Z_TBD (Karl Malone), Saturday, 3 July 2021 17:02 (two years ago) link

the drum intro to teen spirit always vaguely remind me of a syncopated version of motown, a la “ain’t too proud to beg”

maybe that’s what the gap band was doing too, idk

the mai tai quinn (voodoo chili), Saturday, 3 July 2021 19:46 (two years ago) link

Grohl's best drumming is on Songs for the Deaf by QOTSA

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 3 July 2021 19:48 (two years ago) link

that was also one of his favorite albums to drum on iirc

not up to Aerosmith standards (Neanderthal), Saturday, 3 July 2021 19:49 (two years ago) link

lol, Gap Band. He could have just as easily said, like, Not Just Knee Deep or something.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 3 July 2021 19:51 (two years ago) link

Gap Band rule

not up to Aerosmith standards (Neanderthal), Saturday, 3 July 2021 19:54 (two years ago) link

Grohl's best drumming is on Songs for the Deaf by QOTSA

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, July 3, 2021 8:48 PM (fifteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

^^^^^^^^

burnt hombre (stevie), Saturday, 3 July 2021 20:07 (two years ago) link

I'm sort of confused, so Grohl said he adapted a little drum fill from a Gap Band song and this is bad or a big deal why??

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 3 July 2021 20:10 (two years ago) link

Skimmed this revive, but I think the answer is that it means ... nothing.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 3 July 2021 20:14 (two years ago) link

Skimmed this revive, but

― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, July 4, 2021 6:14 AM (eleven minutes ago)

lol, Gap Band.

― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, July 4, 2021 5:51 AM (thirty-three minutes ago)

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Saturday, 3 July 2021 20:28 (two years ago) link

i just like calling him uncool because of his longtime cool guy standing

xp

Z_TBD (Karl Malone), Saturday, 3 July 2021 20:28 (two years ago) link

xpost I skimmed the revive while out and about, saw Grohl cited the Gap Band for "Smells," and made fun of that. But I didn't read any further, per UMS, to see if this was a big deal or bad. You nerd.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 3 July 2021 20:37 (two years ago) link

I’m bloom riff drummage would have been a good follow up to the argument but as wufs points out above , it’s not grohls

calstars, Saturday, 3 July 2021 22:27 (two years ago) link


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