Smashing Pumpkins - Siamese Dream poll

Maybe it was the hair.

dang forgot to vote here for soma.
bang bang yr dead hole in yr head

that's "Silverfuck."

Happy 20th birthday Siamese Dream!

Would have voted for 'Soma'

I'd probably put Quiet third on my list and Luna just above Cherub Rock but otherwise I stand by my ranking upthread

I can understand almost nobody rating it as best on the album, but spaceboy is a really gorgeous and touching song.

Maybe the most loving song he's written outside of For Martha.

JIMMY SMASH

"Quiet" is a proper tune of the rocking out nature iirc

― That Dunkster! (absolutely clean glasses), Sunday, May 1, 2011 6:05 PM (five years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

since i started drumming the "geek usa" drums give me heartburn

1. luna
2. rocket
3. cherub rock
4. hummer
5. geek u.s.a.
6. spaceboy
7. sweet sweet
8. today
9. silverfuck
10. quiet
11. disarm
12. soma
13. mayonaise

but i generally prefer the live versions of these songs, especially 1994 and especially lollapalooza. the band was on fire that summer and were never more aggressive, even during the Machina era.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLHEitwq20w

also swap geek & hummer in my list

God that is inhumanly fast and precise

Anyone else noticed the font used on the sleeve is similar to the one used on TV series Murder, She Wrote?

yes. it's called Agatha. i see it fairly often in ads/signage/copy. i've seen the MCIS font in the wild, too.

timely bump, because i've actually been listening to SD a lot lately, more than i have in years. like i said in the poll thread and probably here, i prefer the faster/more intense/less staid live versions, but you know to state the obvious SD really is one of the best guitar/studio rat records ever. i blasted the 2011 vinyl reissue last night with headphones and heard guitar parts on Hummer and Cherub Rock that i'd never noticed before.

it’s a really beautiful sprawling guitar record. i wish there were more like it. (one record i really connect to it is jimmy eat world’s clarity)

Happy 27th birthday to this sprawling LP which left my Gish-loving teenage self somewhat underwhelmed and nonplussed; but which I now recognize has some kickass songs and is undoubtedly a high point of ‘90s major-label alt-rock (I guess it didn’t get a lot better than this).

fulfill the promise made of tin

man oh man did i write the lyrics to 'Soma' all over my notebooks in high school

haha there are some clunkers in there!

That pretty little gtr part toward the end of “Hummer” is such a nice, subtle moment (from a band that I don’t really associate with such moments).

I feel Loveless all over Siamese Dream - mostly I listen to SP for the guitars and drums, tuning out the vocal parts.

That pretty little gtr part toward the end of “Hummer” is such a nice, subtle moment (from a band that I don’t really associate with such moments).

One of my favourite songs of theirs. I like that part a lot too. I think it might have been a deliberate allusion to this: https://youtu.be/stBOhNxLrbM?t=274

Oh wow... that’s cool

I've been listening to this album a lot... it's remarkable how much I've come around to an LP that I have been lukewarm on for decades. My remaining (light) criticisms boil down to:

1. "Geek USA" doesn't quite fit, and feels like somewhat of a (lesser) cousin to "I Am One" and "Siva";
2. "Silverfuck" is (IMO) somewhat tedious & silly (They are not Jane's Addiction, nor were meant to be);
3. "Luna" is overworked. They honestly could have just used the "Apartment Demo" version (it's a lot better);
4. The album's overall sound (production + mix) is more pristine / labored than I usually go for... but nbd, that's what they worked so hard for (I can always listen to Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain for an, er, alternative...).

"geek usa" does seem connected to those songs but i think the bridge ("in a dream we are connected") puts it over

the end of "hummer" is the best thing bc ever did

hard agree

The inclusion of “geek USA” and “silverfuck” is keeping in line with the albums’s intense extravagant rococo vibe.. “geek USA” really shows off the Queen influence, I think, very “Brighton
Rock” on steroids

ha, the very few times I have ever played this record, Geek USA is one of the songs I always looked forward to the most, for the drumming.

morrisp, do you like pisces iscariot?

I liked it when it came out, yes (especially the Gish/Lull-era stuff). I've been meaning to revisit it... found a cheap copy of the Deluxe Edition at a record store a little while back; may throw it in during a long drive to a dentist appt. tomorrow.

man I WISH Jane's Addiction sounded like Silverfuck, i would probably like them!

Album should have ended after Mayonnaise.

no

Yes mate

this is one of the few overstuffed running-time alt-rock CDs that earns it, really feels full and epic and monumental. it takes time to get to know it. a real challenge for those weaned on the pop-song tightness of idk Nevermind and the Blue Album. and a good tee-up for MCIS being the only noteworthy alt-rock double album and also very much having the feel of a double album. you could maybe cut idk one song from SD, if you had to, but more than that and it'd be diminished in grandeur no matter what the songs were.

Yeah, it doesn't feel overlong, despite its hour-plus length.

This album rules

Disarm is the best song though. I’m surprised it fared so poorly.

I agree that it should end after Mayonaise, specifically at the point where Luna ends.

I love this album but I skip "Disarm", sorry treesh.:(

what's a boy supposed to do

Dirty (a contemporaneous Butch Vig joint) is a few minutes shorter, but feels two hours longer.

I love Dirty but that's completely accurate

Tbh, "Silverfuck" is the only song after "Mayonnaise" I really need. I do really love the other nine songs!

Oh wait, "Luna" - I do like that one.

is that a real song

I think I've been skipping past "Quiet" since the late 90s.

iirc "Silverfuck" is kind of a huge gaping hole. The band just isn't strong enough to carry off that kinda jam.