somewhat related: TS: "I Am One" vs. "Cherub Rock"
― mookieproof, Monday, 2 May 2011 01:10 (twelve years ago) link
Mad that I missed this poll, would have been unable to choose anyway though.
― Doctor Casino, Monday, 2 May 2011 01:34 (twelve years ago) link
I love "Quiet" - wish I'd voted for it just so it'd have had a better showing (voted "Mayonaise")
― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Monday, 2 May 2011 02:59 (twelve years ago) link
man, i forgot how awesome jimmy chamberlain seemed once
― j., Tuesday, 3 May 2011 01:13 (twelve years ago) link
he still seems awesome listening to this album in particular.
― That Dunkster! (absolutely clean glasses), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 01:29 (twelve years ago) link
When I first heard this album in jr high I thought the drums during the solo in "Geek USA" were the greatest thing ever.
― Simon H. Shit (Simon H.), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 01:31 (twelve years ago) link
he does seem that way but it's been a long time so i'm sort of trying to re-calibrate my ears for 90s Alt-Rock Production (and Songwriting!).
― j., Tuesday, 3 May 2011 01:32 (twelve years ago) link
I was thinking about giving this album a shoutout in the greatest drum albums thread...
― if hongroes could fly this place would be a geirport (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 03:46 (twelve years ago) link
Life's a bummer when you're a hummer
― hex enduction hour, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 05:23 (twelve years ago) link
i voted for Cherub Rock, but that's because i couldn't pick one, but thought about the one that i hum to myself more than all the others.
tho someone was OTM upthread about Gish being a better album. that shit's in my car tape deck all the time.
― it is his "enigmatic signifier" (the table is the table), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 05:26 (twelve years ago) link
It's weird seeing that picture at the top of the thread, the UK version of the CD looks completely different...
I voted 'Hummer' after a bit of thought, definitely my favourite of their mini-epics. I used to love 'Mayonaise' but I'm not sure that'd even be in my Top 5 now.
― Gavin, Leeds, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 10:58 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, it looks weird to me too. My cd is this one:
http://s.dsimg.com/image/R-2353183-1299605581.jpeg
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 12:10 (twelve years ago) link
Damnit, I know this is slightly off topic, but the guitar solo at the end of "Drown" will guarantee that Billy will always have a soft spot in my heart. How can he be so damn good and yet ...
― grandavis, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 15:00 (twelve years ago) link
Maybe it was the hair.
― grandavis, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 15:01 (twelve years ago) link
dang forgot to vote here for soma. bang bang yr dead hole in yr head
― 7+ minute (jdchurchill), Wednesday, 4 May 2011 01:15 (twelve years ago) link
that's "Silverfuck."
― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 02:07 (twelve years ago) link
Happy 20th birthday Siamese Dream!
Would have voted for 'Soma'
― I wanna live like C'MOWN! people (Turrican), Saturday, 27 July 2013 15:51 (ten years ago) link
I'd probably put Quiet third on my list and Luna just above Cherub Rock but otherwise I stand by my ranking upthread
― Drugs A. Money, Sunday, 28 July 2013 07:21 (ten years ago) link
I can understand almost nobody rating it as best on the album, but spaceboy is a really gorgeous and touching song.
― Fetchboy, Sunday, 28 July 2013 08:23 (ten years ago) link
Maybe the most loving song he's written outside of For Martha.
― Fetchboy, Sunday, 28 July 2013 08:27 (ten years ago) link
JIMMY SMASH
― j., Friday, 23 December 2016 23:22 (seven years ago) link
"Quiet" is a proper tune of the rocking out nature iirc
― That Dunkster! (absolutely clean glasses), Sunday, May 1, 2011 6:05 PM (five years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 23 December 2016 23:23 (seven years ago) link
since i started drumming the "geek usa" drums give me heartburn
― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Friday, 23 December 2016 23:26 (seven years ago) link
1. luna2. rocket3. cherub rock4. hummer5. geek u.s.a.6. spaceboy7. sweet sweet8. today9. silverfuck10. quiet11. disarm12. soma13. mayonaise
but i generally prefer the live versions of these songs, especially 1994 and especially lollapalooza. the band was on fire that summer and were never more aggressive, even during the Machina era.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLHEitwq20w
― flappy bird, Monday, 19 February 2018 07:09 (six years ago) link
also swap geek & hummer in my list
― flappy bird, Monday, 19 February 2018 07:13 (six years ago) link
God that is inhumanly fast and precise
― startled macropod (MatthewK), Monday, 19 February 2018 07:42 (six years ago) link
Anyone else noticed the font used on the sleeve is similar to the one used on TV series Murder, She Wrote?
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 7 May 2018 18:05 (five years ago) link
yes. it's called Agatha. i see it fairly often in ads/signage/copy. i've seen the MCIS font in the wild, too.
timely bump, because i've actually been listening to SD a lot lately, more than i have in years. like i said in the poll thread and probably here, i prefer the faster/more intense/less staid live versions, but you know to state the obvious SD really is one of the best guitar/studio rat records ever. i blasted the 2011 vinyl reissue last night with headphones and heard guitar parts on Hummer and Cherub Rock that i'd never noticed before.
― flappy bird, Monday, 7 May 2018 18:08 (five years ago) link
it’s a really beautiful sprawling guitar record. i wish there were more like it. (one record i really connect to it is jimmy eat world’s clarity)
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 7 May 2018 23:24 (five years ago) link
Happy 27th birthday to this sprawling LP which left my Gish-loving teenage self somewhat underwhelmed and nonplussed; but which I now recognize has some kickass songs and is undoubtedly a high point of ‘90s major-label alt-rock (I guess it didn’t get a lot better than this).
― Your dream has symbolic content (morrisp), Monday, 27 July 2020 06:19 (three years ago) link
fulfill the promise made of tin
― flappy bird, Monday, 27 July 2020 07:01 (three years ago) link
man oh man did i write the lyrics to 'Soma' all over my notebooks in high school
― alpine static, Monday, 27 July 2020 07:24 (three years ago) link
haha there are some clunkers in there!
― flappy bird, Monday, 27 July 2020 16:02 (three years ago) link
That pretty little gtr part toward the end of “Hummer” is such a nice, subtle moment (from a band that I don’t really associate with such moments).
― “Pizza House!” (morrisp), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 00:32 (three years ago) link
I feel Loveless all over Siamese Dream - mostly I listen to SP for the guitars and drums, tuning out the vocal parts.
― assert (MatthewK), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 03:41 (three years ago) link
One of my favourite songs of theirs. I like that part a lot too. I think it might have been a deliberate allusion to this: https://youtu.be/stBOhNxLrbM?t=274
― The nexus of the crisis and the origin of storms (Sund4r), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 03:48 (three years ago) link
Oh wow... that’s cool
― “Pizza House!” (morrisp), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 03:52 (three years ago) link
I've been listening to this album a lot... it's remarkable how much I've come around to an LP that I have been lukewarm on for decades. My remaining (light) criticisms boil down to:
1. "Geek USA" doesn't quite fit, and feels like somewhat of a (lesser) cousin to "I Am One" and "Siva";2. "Silverfuck" is (IMO) somewhat tedious & silly (They are not Jane's Addiction, nor were meant to be);3. "Luna" is overworked. They honestly could have just used the "Apartment Demo" version (it's a lot better);4. The album's overall sound (production + mix) is more pristine / labored than I usually go for... but nbd, that's what they worked so hard for (I can always listen to Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain for an, er, alternative...).
― “Pizza House!” (morrisp), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 19:34 (three years ago) link
"geek usa" does seem connected to those songs but i think the bridge ("in a dream we are connected") puts it over
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 20:05 (three years ago) link
the end of "hummer" is the best thing bc ever did
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 20:06 (three years ago) link
hard agree
― assert (MatthewK), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 20:26 (three years ago) link
The inclusion of “geek USA” and “silverfuck” is keeping in line with the albums’s intense extravagant rococo vibe.. “geek USA” really shows off the Queen influence, I think, very “BrightonRock” on steroids
― brimstead, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 21:49 (three years ago) link
ha, the very few times I have ever played this record, Geek USA is one of the songs I always looked forward to the most, for the drumming.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 21:51 (three years ago) link
morrisp, do you like pisces iscariot?
― trapped out the barndo (crüt), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 21:54 (three years ago) link
I liked it when it came out, yes (especially the Gish/Lull-era stuff). I've been meaning to revisit it... found a cheap copy of the Deluxe Edition at a record store a little while back; may throw it in during a long drive to a dentist appt. tomorrow.
― “Pizza House!” (morrisp), Wednesday, 9 September 2020 22:06 (three years ago) link
man I WISH Jane's Addiction sounded like Silverfuck, i would probably like them!
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 22:07 (three years ago) link
Album should have ended after Mayonnaise.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 23:09 (three years ago) link
no
― Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 23:27 (three years ago) link
Yes mate
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 23:46 (three years ago) link
this is one of the few overstuffed running-time alt-rock CDs that earns it, really feels full and epic and monumental. it takes time to get to know it. a real challenge for those weaned on the pop-song tightness of idk Nevermind and the Blue Album. and a good tee-up for MCIS being the only noteworthy alt-rock double album and also very much having the feel of a double album. you could maybe cut idk one song from SD, if you had to, but more than that and it'd be diminished in grandeur no matter what the songs were.
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 9 September 2020 23:48 (three years ago) link