Exile in Guyville, the poll

a man named gygax! dared, many years ago

**furiously searches**

i always thought her playing on this record was very good...
there are two songs on her whipsmart that i considered very well-written: "shane" and "nashville".

― gygax!, Wednesday, December 4, 2002 6:19 PM (8 years ago) Bookmark

There are some great guitar songs on Exile. I don't think I've ever heard PJ Harvey.
― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, June 22, 2004 4:29 PM (6 years ago) Bookmark

**thunderous applause**

i might have voted for canary, not sure

had i voted, obvs

My first college girlfriend was a really big deal too, at the time. But somehow, she's not so important to me currently. I think that once in a while I can work up some enthusiasm for Jeremy Engle, but that's about it. There's gotta be an alternate universe out there somewhere where Phair actually amounts to something...

Glory is definitely one of the best songs ever.

Her electric rhythm strum is one of my favorite songs ever.

aww man, one late write-in vote for Dance of the Seven Veils, because I too am a cunt in spring..

no, apparently I voted way back in the day. I guess Future Lex is nastier than Past Lex. I am still 6'1" though.

Her electric rhythm strum is one of my favorite songs ever.

― My mom is all about capital gains tax butthurtedness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, April 29, 2011

SOTM - she and brad wood found a great sound on this record.

mesmerizing in particular. the bluesy little hook from same is one of my fave things to play when I'm just hangin' on the couch with a guitar.

Anyone listened to her episode of Joe Rogan yet? I just realized that it was up.

http://podcasts.joerogan.net/podcasts/liz-phair

i'll be honest, the 'joe rogan' part is a likely unsurmountable hurdle right out of the gate

Yeah, I get that. But he isn't 100% unlistenable and can be a good interviewer (with some very glaring exceptions). My breakdown of when I'll listen to Rogan from another thread:

how's life wrote this on thread Post a controversial opinion on board I Love Everything on Oct 13, 2017

lol, I'll listen to Joe Rogan if one of my favorite musicians is on. Then it'll be like Ok that was pretty cool. Who's next? A guy who hunts invasive pigs in Patagonia? Great! Sign me up! Subscribe! Next? A b-list stand-up comic. Ok, sure I guess... Next week? The more speculative side of evolutionary psychology! EJECT EJECT!

This repeats itself every 6 months or so for me. Substitute in Milo Yiannopoulos, an anti-feminist woman, or some MMA fighter in the last slot as necessary.

Point being, there's a two-hour Liz Phair interview up.

omg, like 10 minutes in and they're talking aliens.

I enjoyed it, it's just 2 hours of stoner talk

Yeah, I was enjoying it. I just got up to the part where Liz starts talking about how maybe demons are dog ghosts and had to take a little break. I'll finish it up tonight.

Haven't listened to it yet, but she's on the latest Song Exploder talking about Divorce Song.

http://songexploder.net/liz-phair

I really wish those Song Exploders were an hour long. They're great for the most part but I always want more.

My thoughts exactly! It's seemed like they could have covered a lot more

I'm not a gearhead or even a musician but I don't remember it being mentioned what kind of guitar she used

I'd bet it was her old Fender Duo Sonic. She's had other guitars since but probably not at the time.

Having never listened to Liz Phair before it's insane reading old ILM threads (not this one, the other ones)

Haven't listened to it yet, but she's on the latest Song Exploder talking about Divorce Song.

http://songexploder.net/liz-phair

― how's life, Friday, May 11, 2018 4:41 AM (nine hours ago)

I wonder if "Shane" was a sequel to "Divorce Song":

I know that it was the night
The war broke out because
You and I were driving around

You were doing a story
About if people understood
What had happened to their world
Tonight
In bed
Sleeping
The world tonight
In bed
Asleep

You said that you were in touch
With the draft resistors
In case the big boys called you up
You're gonna have to let 'em
Dick you around
But don't let 'em make
You do
What you can't live with
Tonight
In bed
With me
Sleeping
You looked like you were just a little kid

Shane, I said, you've got to watch your ass

You've gotta have fear in your heart
You've gotta have fear in your heart
You've gotta have fear in your heart
You've gotta have fear in your heart
You've gotta have fear in your heart
You've gotta have fear in your heart
You've gotta have fear in your heart
You've gotta have fear in your heart
Fear in your heart

This album is one of those albums that I've discovered is a "root" over the past 27 years since I first heard it.

I don't have much that's profound to say about that, but I don't think there's a song that I don't like on here. Hard for me to believe that "Canary" got 0 votes in the original poll, it's always been one of my favorites.

Before I started here, but this is one poll where I agree 100% with the co-winners (virtually tied for me, too).

Agree with the top five tbh

xxp yeah it's all great, including the three zero-vote tracks

I think I probably ended up voting for Shatter in the end, as I said upthread

I don't like "Stratford-on-Guy" at all, it's boring. I think each of the tracks that didn't get any votes are better.

(I mean I still like it, but it would be near the bottom of my list)

I like songs about looking out of plane windows, bored.

I'm not totally sure what made me think about this record today, for what it's worth— I was doing some work after dinner, and all of a sudden the phrase "tell him to jump higher" came into my head.

This album has some of my favorite electric rhythm strumming.

reposting these great mostly-unreleased tracks here:
https://www.mediafire.com/file/lkcseenpa3i1ccd/Liz_Phair_-_Unreleased_Songs_Collection.zip/file
https://www.mediafire.com/file/c1unravlu2fbti8/Liz_Phair_-_Unreleased_Songs_Collection_part_2.zip/file

1. Desperado Theme
2. Oh My God
3. If I Ever Pay You Back
4. Tell Me You Like Me
5. Firewalker
6. Hurricane Cindy
7. Don't Apologize
8. Beginning To See The Light
9. I'm Like That
10. I'll Get You High
11. Conversation Overheard Between Two Bouncers
12. Wasted
13. You Have No Idea
14. Russian Girl
15. I'm A Believer
16. Waiting For The Bird
17. Freak Of Nature

1, 4, 9, 14, 16, 17 - from White Chocolate Space Egg solo demos boot CDR
2 - Squirt TV, 1.96
3, 8 - Minneapolis 4.22.95
5, 7 - Wellesley 4.30.99
6 - unknown demo
10, 13 - NYC 4.25.95
11 - live, source unknown
12 - KCRW, 12.8.94
15 - live, source unknown

This album has some of my favorite electric rhythm strumming.

100% same

xp thanks, sleeve!

Good ol’ “Hurricane Cindy”

Thanks sleeve.

(I have all the WCSE demos somewhere but don’t know where, and it’s been a while.)

I know it's lo-fi but "Conversation Between Two Bouncers" is just incredible

happy to throw these out into the world again! I made this from my own bootlegs CDRs and tapes, I got like a dozen boot tapes off of eBay in the mid-2000s and went through all of them for the gold.

(the tapes were bought as a lot, to be clear)

many thanks, sleeve.

First-past-the-post is so cruel. "Dance of the Seven Veils" and "Canary" might even have been my favourite tracks 2/3 of a lifetime ago. Some days, at least.

I was shocked how few songs she played from Exile a few years ago and there wasn't a big audience pop for "Fuck and Run" or "Divorce Song" - and most of the audience sang along to "Why Can't I" (which I like). Completely flipped my expectations of what a Liz Phair concert audience in 2018 (or 2017) was into.

A lot of great songs on this album (“Shatter” is sorta its lowkey MVP)… but I still remember what it is was like to hear “Fuck and Run” those first few times, in someone’s car, it felt like something totally new and I just had to get the album.

sleeve, not for the first time, you are a true hero to Liz Phair fans around these parts!

"Why Can't I" still pops up on the semi-reg on Adult Contemporary/Hits Radio.

that’s pretty wild, I was just driving home late at night and “Shatter” popped up on the shuffled iPod I use for car play, I marvelled at its greatness in the dark.

Newly released outtake to mark 30th Anniversary: https://matablog.matadorrecords.com/2023/06/22/liz-phair-exile-in-guyville-30th-anniversary-edition-miss-lucy/

(I have a ticket to the L.A. show in November)

This is one of the greatest albums of all time, also: Brad Wood and Gordon Raphael tied for #1 in the category of "spectacular producers who deserve more acclaim that they've received".