JOSS WHEDON SUPER POLL WITH CORRECT FORMATTING

i felt dollhouse S2 was insanely rushed towards the end. (granted, it may have been good for whedon, i mean he could have used a kick in the pants to keep things moving in the later seasons of buffy.) some of the big reveals in the last few eps just didn't make sense to me. i think the premise of the show is engineered for a multi-season series, capping it at 2 seasons kinda forced some weird moves imo. xp

firefly w/ ease

Parenthood (1990) – writer, co-producer

that's such a great movie! i fucking love it! didn't even know he was connected to this. YAY

this is the original spinoff TV show with Ed Begley Jr and the young Leo DiCaprio, FYI

lol that's quite a big difference (although i'd be kind of curious to see that, just to see if it was any good!)

ed begley jr supposedly has one of the hugest schlongs in hollywood

can we vote for ed begley's schlong?

Ed Begley's supposedly huge schlong has been one of my favorite hollywood gossip facts for years and every time I see the guy in something I think, "Oh hey, he has a massive dick."

I still haven't gotten really into Buffy yet so I voted Roseanne cause, well, awesome.

I voted Roseanne just based on the projects presented and not necessarily the level of involvement Whedon had with them.

wd not leave Whedon alone with children for 0.1 seconds

me: "huh he was a co-writer on Speed!"
N1ck: "I know plenty of cowriters on speed"

Haw haw.

I think I'll have to vote Firefly. Had no idea he did a season of Roseanne.

- Buffy
- Angel
- Dr Horrible
- Firefly/Serenity
- Dollhouse
- Astonishing X-Men

But honestly Firefly, Dollhouse, X-Men all occupy 4th place because I don't want to diminish how much I love love love love love them. Like just writing them down in a list like that makes me feel bad.

Joss gets extra bonus points for always having great commentaries and doing great interviews and for being awesome in general.

this is the original spinoff TV show with Ed Begley Jr and the young Leo DiCaprio, FYI

Oh, hahaha, I am so dumb. :-(

and Ed Begley Jr is so hung! or so i have heard!

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Hrmmm...Buffy Firefly tie...I can accept that.

needs a http://www.straitpinkie.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/faceoff2.jpg

Buffy Firefly thunderdome

so

http://www.thewrap.com/joss-whedon-feminist-hypocrite-infidelity-affairs-ex-wife-kai-cole-says/

enh

you know this may be controversial but I think someone can probably be a feminist and still cheat on their wife.

reading that mostly just made me feel gross. tmi.

yeah, same

From the guy who brought you

https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2017-04/27/21/asset/buzzfeed-prod-fastlane-03/sub-buzz-13858-1493341382-3.png

Fuck, that's really depressing reading. I had heard rumours of one affair but wasn't sure if it was just particularly bitchy fan gossip(although there was a nagging part of my brain that wondered if it was actually true)

Urgh, this is going to colour all his past work in a really bad way, isn't it.

you know this may be controversial but I think someone can probably be a feminist and still cheat on their wife.

― akm, Monday, 21 August 2017 08:53 (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It's more the abuse of power and using feminism as a cover for shitty behaviour that are the issues.

I think "many, many days and nights away from home on business" was probably the cover, embracing feminism is more the gap filler / spackle / self-absolution

high-profile, performative male feminists often seem kinda try-hard and creepy tbh

i just hope marc loi's been keeping his nose clean, i dunno if i can handle another fall from grace like this

so seems like that horrible early Wonder Woman script was for real

glad someone's engaging with the real issue here

i haven't read that thing because i really don't care, but i seem to remember there was a thing about him hitting on teenage fans on social media a couple years ago? or did i just assume this is what joss whedon did?

imo the grossest thing about this is that apparently Whedon wrote a long narrative letter for his life that crafted his entire history of infidelity into some sort of narrative? she seems to have dropped some quotes from it

who the fuck does that? here, wife, is my treatise on the duality of man that explains all the affairs I've been having

honestly that's probably very common lol

Dr. Horrible Feminist's Cringe-Along Log

ok lol

I'm hoping this means that no one will ever quote any of his scripts' non-comedic lines as "clever" or "deep" ever again but I'm not holding out hope

um that is to say, I'm sure that's probably not the case

http://www.hoodedutilitarian.com/2012/09/hating-on-season-eight/

wait

that thing about fucking new universes into existence isn't real, is it

that's how jim shooter created star brand iirc

well-played

As much as I'd love to indict Whedon for horrible comics, I don't think comic series based on television properties have any editorial oversight whatsoever. Sometimes it seems the token issue written by someone connected to the original property isn't even proofed by the writer.

you could tell me that an X-Files comic has established Mulder is a werewolf and I'd believe it

http://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/scifi/fox-mulder-goes-werewolf-for-x-files-2.html

so close

As much as I'd love to indict Whedon for horrible comics, I don't think comic series based on television properties have any editorial oversight whatsoever. Sometimes it seems the token issue written by someone connected to the original property isn't even proofed by the writer.

― mh, Monday, August 21, 2017 10:07 PM (seventeen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

He actually wrote a lot of those "Season 8" comics himself IIRC.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffy_the_Vampire_Slayer_Season_Eight#Writers_and_story_arcs

Joss Whedon serves as "executive producer" for the series across every issue, giving his other writers notes on characterization, continuity and his overall concept in mind as he would when overseeing Buffy as a television series. Whedon wrote the first story arc ("The Long Way Home", #1–4), the fourth ("Time of Your Life", #16–19), the final story arc ("Last Gleaming", #36–40), and several intermediary one-shot stories (#5, #10, #11, "Willow", and #31). Comic and television writer Brian K. Vaughan became the first guest writer on the series, writing the second story arc "No Future for You" (#6–9). While Vaughan was not a "Buffyverse" staff member, he was a fan of both series (particularly the character of Faith) and Joss Whedon himself was a fan of Vaughan's Marvel Comics series Runaways, on which he served as writer during the period Vaughan wrote "No Future for You." Former Buffy and Angel writer Drew Goddard wrote the series' third arc, "Wolves at the Gate" (#12–15). Goddard first became a Buffy writer in its final season, starting with the episode "Selfless" and finishing with the Angel episode "The Girl in Question", which itself obliquely hints at the life of Buffy post-season seven. Goddard went on to become a writer for the movie Cloverfield and acclaimed American dramas Lost and Alias (all working alongside producer J. J. Abrams) while also penning the story "Antique" for canonical Buffy comic book Tales of the Vampires, which he references in "Wolves at the Gate".

Film, comics and television writer-producer Jeph Loeb wrote issue #20 of the series ("After These Messages... We'll Be Right Back!". Loeb had previously been involved with Whedon in the conception of Buffy the Animated Series, which never came to be. Following Loeb are Buffyverse alumni Jane Espenson, Doug Petrie,[28] Drew Z. Greenberg, and Steven S. DeKnight as well as comic book writer Jim Krueger, who each wrote an issue between issues #21 and #25 ("Predators and Prey"), which is a single arc told from a number of different perspectives. These one-shots follow the perspectives of Harmony (#21, Espenson), Satsu/Kennedy (#22, DeKnight), Buffy/Andrew (#23, Greenberg), Giles/Faith (#24, Krueger) and a Xander/Dawn issue which will also reveal more about Twilight (#25, Petrie).[29] Jane Espenson returned for a five-issue arc involving the character of Oz for issues #26–30, titled "Retreat"[30] and also wrote a one-shot about Riley. Joss Whedon returned to write two one-shots, "Willow: Goddesses and Monsters" and issue #31, "Turbulence". Brad Meltzer, author of several New York Times best-selling books and later both Identity Crisis and Justice League for DC Comics wrote the penultimate story arc of Season Eight, "Twilight", which is issues #32–35. Whedon himself resumes authorship for the final five issues (#36–40, "Last Gleaming") of the series, bringing Season Eight to an end.[31]

Dark Horse Presents has also offered several short, canonical side stories to the mix. "Harmony Bites" by Espenson and Moline is a fictional episode of Harmony Kendall's television series, tying into issue #21. "Vampy Cat Play Friend" is a fictional television commercial tying in with issue #22, written by Steven S. DeKnight and illustrated by Camilla d'Errico. Joss Whedon teamed up with Jo Chen to produce "Always Darkest", a depiction of Buffy's terrible nightmares, and Espenson teamed up with Moline again to produce "Harmony Comes to the Nation", a fictional interview for The Colbert Report where Harmony lays out her ambitions, both tying in with Jane Espenson's "Retreat" arc. Jackie Kessler wrote "Tales of the Vampires: Carpe Noctem", a two-part ministory with the previously unseen characters Ash and Cyn, about the consequences of Harmony Kendall's television series from a vampire's point of view.

Also since seeing the panel of Angel and Buffy boffing across the sky, I have not been able to stop giggling.

I stand corrected, these nerdos do care about these horrible comics

the internet sucks so bad

Very true

Which matters more out of wheedons work or his affairs or his feminist cred I can't summon up enough enthusiasm about any of it to discern