oneohtrix point never

Love OPN, but dude is branching out into some real crapola

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Yeah, its been pretty much diminishing returns since Rifts if you ask me. I mean, Returnal was only a very very slight drop in quality, imho, but I haven't really been into the other stuff all that much.

Well the Games stuff I've heard is awesome imo and I'm very excited about the album.

ditto

I just put on Returnal extremely loudly on the turntable, and literally seconds after that opening blast of "Nil Admirari," a construction crew started jackhammering pavement down the street. It complements the song awesomely at the moment, though I'm sure I'll be buzzkilled when I'm trying to bliss out to the third and fourth tracks. This record just keeps getting better, does it not?

leaked.

awesome so far

A new album? Or is this a Ford/Lopatin thing?

the ford + lopatin record is out next week (or the week after?) so probably that?

ya i mean the ford & lopatin album (channel pressure)

after hearing the whole thing at least once now i can say there are a few tracks that i am less than fond of, but usually this is because of the vocals (and there are instrumental versions of most of the tracks i have so w/e)

loved the Games EP but found the F&L single very underwhelming so a bit ambivalent right now.

yeah the best thing abt the single was the crawl @ the beginning of the video...

the single is "emergency room", right? is it the vocals that you are ambivalent about? because... like i said, there are instrumentals.

hard to imagine anyone who liked the games ep wouldn't be able to get into at least half of this album

yeah 'emergency room' is the single although the crawl i was thinking of was across the channel pressure teaser lol @ me...

im still p hype to hear this but the songs ive hears seem busier and choppier than the games ep? idk

I only listened to a few songs and didn't like what I heard.

whole album streaming here
http://www.factmag.com/2011/05/31/stream-ford-lopatins-channel-pressure-album-in-full-exclusively-on-fact/

They were kind of ambient when I saw them at Primavera, but I'll hopefully be seeing them again on Thursday too. Anyone coming to that?

w00t!

i can't figure out which my bloody valentine song he's sampling on "world of regret"... unless he figured out precisely how to recreate that sound

and ya these songs are a bit more anxious than the games stuff, but on say "new planet" or the title track this comes across really well i think

These guys have quite a few dimensions - from the EPs to the album to the live act, it's always very different.

it's funny seeing the reviews come out for this. remember they changed their name from Games to avoid litigation or something? and now every review starts with HEY EVERYONE THIS BAND USED TO BE CALLED 'GAMES' DO YOU REMEMBER, calling more attention to the name than when the band was going.

I prefer Games, and that's a terrible name. Wish they'd just called themselves Software or something, but I guess they wanted the name to be ambiguous enough so they could do multiple styles. They're a proper jam band live.

how so?

Well... It's not like they're Phish or anything, but they really do seem to be jamming/freestyling live rather than just doing variations on their released tracks.

nothing on Channel Pressure with quite the same style and impact of the EP tracks - bit disappointed after first listen

yeah, i only gave it a cursory listen, but it's def not up to those EPs (which are perfect in my book). Still, I think these guys have enough in them to try out quite a few styles, so I wouldn't write em off yet.

caught them live last night, was fair to OK. I wouldnt call them a jam band, they do a bit of riffing but still a lot of the start/stop stuff that makes post noiser dance guys suck live ie teengirl fantasy. Theyre clearly enjoying themselves but it all seems like a waste of time and effort compared to the oneohtrix live sets ive seen the last couple of years

hey, i was there too.

not the greatest set i've ever seen, but better than the Primavera one from the week before. It also felt way too short. Both times I'd seen them it felt like they were really building towards something and then they'd just stop.

yeah I popped in on the way home from the phenomenal Aethenor/Alexander tucker show at cafe oto, just about everything would seem dry after that

kinda surprised that i'm the only one repping for this... i guess the chillwave backlash is in full effect

Is this really chillwave? I didn't get that feel at all when I listened to it. But what do I know.

it sounds like a far more palatable version of neon indian to me, but i am no expert either

to me it basically sounds like Akufen with 80's E-Z Listening samples and undanceable beats. not really into it for the most part.

yaaaa i don't see that at all. this is a dense and shiny synth-pop record (just realized they recorded this in jan hammer's studio) with a few retro-pastiche interludes imo

It's good shiny layered pop with some pretty catchy tunes in all. Just unsure as to whether I'd come back to it regularly or not?

...comsidering I've had those eps on rotation since I first heard em

Judging just from playing the stream a few times, I think the new Ford & Lopatin record is a total grower... I've liked it twice as much with each new listen. The production is incredible, and I can't wait to grab this on vinyl this week and crank the shit out of it. "Joey Rogers" is a titanic track, deep into "Big In Japan" by Alphaville territory. "Emergency Room" reminds me of Cupid & Psyche '85-era Scritti Politti--another earworm. It did take me a couple of listens to get used to how different it is from the Games EPs (which I also adore), but it's a real feast, and shows a huge amount of breadth, stylistically and sonically (which I also think takes a little getting used to).

inclined to agree with you clarke b. once you get over the fact it's not much like the EPs, this turns out to be a really stylish and much more realistic twist on eighties nostalgia. They seem to have tapped into that vein of unprejudiced listening I felt as a kid - where everything just sounds like music, be it Green Gartside or Cameo singing.

That's a great point. Lopatin has become one of those artists for me whose instincts I totally trust. It's deeper than just liking the sound of it, I dig the whole feel and aesthetic of it and I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt wholeheartedly. I want to say that it almost feels like it's asking a lot of listeners nowadays to change your style up so much and be so diverse and expect people to follow you (aren't we all a little more ADD-addled as listeners than we used to be? just by virtue of the ways music digestion and exposure have evolved?)... Just as I miss and get nostalgic about that feeling of it all just being music and not so aware of genre/politics/motivation/perception/whatever, I also miss and get nostalgic about really rooting for a band or a dude. I'm already anxious for a new Oneohtrix record to come out... Returnal continues to improve and deepen with each new listen.

God, I've really got to give Oneohtrix another go. I just never understood the point or why it's supposedly better than any number of third-rate IDM/ambient/drone/synth-dork acts from the last fifteen years. Def needs another go.

I've been thinking about that lately; it's hard to articulate... It feels thoroughly and carefully composed (though not exhaustingly labored-over like a lot of "intricate" IDM-ish stuff feels to me) as opposed to just loop-riding or drifting. That said, it feels organic (horrible word, I realize)--but not in that BoC "analog synths melting in the warm '70s sunlight" more overtly nostalgic way either. It feels like Lopatin is very in tune with the synth he's playing, and what he's doing with the music, and where he wants it to go. Its virtuosic in its sense of self-assuredness, but not in a drily technical way at all. Also, now that I think about it in relation to the Ford & Lopatin record and what I said about it above, Returnal really is quite diverse. There's a noise-blast track, a "pretty" track, a track with vocals, a track with percussive effects like I've never heard before... There are moments of ultra-density, moments of spareseness, and it flows beautifully. And man, just the SOUND of it, that fucking Juno--so nice.

someone on the Nite Jewel thread said her collab with Dam Funk was "the wrong end of the '80s" ... disagreed in that case but that's kinda how I'm feeling about Channel Pressure I think. I liked the Games stuff I heard but not really feeling this.

I rep hard for the wrong end of the '80s.

fair enough

And I can clearly remmeber a time when there wasn't even a "right end of the '80s"... So time'll tell with this one.

And man, just the SOUND of it, that fucking Juno--so nice.

This is really the nubbins of it imo

'the wrong end of the '80s' been hugely fashionable for several years now iirc. i'm hearing a lot of disparate sounds that remind me of thomas dolby b-sides or malcolm mclaren or japanese new wave. and a lot of italo.

i can also attest to this thing growing on you after repeat listens, especially w/ a track like "surrender" (the one with the dude from autre ne veut)... but can someone please point out how this is such a markedly different direction than the last ep? because i'm at a loss. i guess they use different vocalists on the album. and the drums are maybe a bit more complex, but the more i try to compare the two the more i realize i vastly prefer the album to those eps (except for "strawberry skies" of course)

*disclaimer* i have been playing this nonstop for the past few weeks and have chosen to embrace even its most cloying vocal performances (tho ironically i am still coming around on "the voices"). i think i've played the title track more than any other song this year so far

Love this. But it might be idiosyncratic...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAQkRF7QntY

The album is a lot more "pop" than the EPs' "Amiga-Funk" stylings. I hear the EPs as unturfed soundtracks from old TV adverts and theme tunes rather than pop songs. Planet Party especially makes me think somehow of those "and all because the lady loves... Milk Tray", or some Miami Vice type show.

The Voices I'd have thought would be the follow up single to Emergency Room.

'the wrong end of the '80s' been hugely fashionable for several years now iirc. i'm hearing a lot of disparate sounds that remind me of thomas dolby b-sides or malcolm mclaren or japanese new wave. and a lot of italo.

and I do love a lotta that stuff you're mentioning so I'm a bit surprised this doesn't do it for me

can someone please point out how this is such a markedly different direction than the last ep?

don't think it's a different direction but "cloying vocal performances" is what's putting me off a bit ... like I will tolerate that stuff in actual '80s music if other elements grab me enough but I don't want to hear it re-created

that said I only have listened to the album once