JOSS WHEDON SUPER POLL WITH CORRECT FORMATTING

i mean you can't fault the guy's eye for casting though -- a WS poll of the Firefly actresses would be impossible

^^^^ OTM forever

how much buffy have you seen, sd

I guess Sorkin is unlikely to ever take a shot at writing comics like Whedon and JMS.

Sorkin is too busy doing coke to write a comic book

he'd rather do an earnest show about someone trying to make a Doonesbury-esque comic strip in the face of corporate and political pressure

can't not vote buffy. firefly deserved a lot better though. did fewer people really watch that than dollhouse?

"Whatever happened to Chuck Schultz? Walt Kelly? The greats!"
"You can't merchandise satire, Bob."

i mean you can't fault the guy's eye for casting though -- a WS poll of the Firefly actresses would be impossible

― hong does your geirden gro (some dude), den 28 april 2011 21:31 (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

not really. CH never looked smashier imo

Another write-in vote for Astonishing X-Men - his run was one of the best examples of classic superhero comics made after the 80s, when grim and gritty stories replaced Claremontian melodrama and high adventure.

Gina Torres's initials are not "CH"

i really wish i "got" this guy cause hes a big deal to so many people whose tastes i respect and with whom i usually agree.... but i just dont "get it."

"nerd boners" is really the most succinct explanation

i admittedly have not seen much Buffy and have kind of lived in fear of coming to grudgingly enjoy it. i kinda liked that movie version everyone disowns, though.

The movie is hilarious, IMO.

I always wanted Luke Perry to do a Pike cameo on the show

or at least bring the paul reubens vampire on

* Atlantis: The Lost Empire (2001) – treatment
* Captain America: The First Avenger (2011) –
* The Avengers (2012) –
* The Cabin in the Woods (TBA) –
* Goners (TBA) –
* Buffy the Animated Series (2004) (unaired)

xp: oh I should have included that

theorem: dan should slow down when creating polls, sometimes

I know he only did one season, but Roseanne has brought me more joy than everything else on this list combined (excepting Toy Story).

It's an opinion that has won me the contempt of many but i think i marginally preferred Angel to Buffy. Angel started slowly and was fairly patchy at times but felt like it had more depth at its best.

kinda tempted to vote for 'buffy the animated series' just because in theory at least it's awesome

xxxxxpost - most of his movie writing jobs have been to take scripts and make them work smoother and add jokes. I believe he was the last hackscriptwriter for Toy Story and X-Men and Speed to go to. As opposed to, you know, writing them.

I don't think there is contempt for people who like Angel better than Buffy. It's odd, Buffy at its peak is way better than anything television has ever done imo but at the end it got so shoddy that the Angel episode shown after it (the way it was shown here anyway) was so much better that I had to wait for the vhs (lol) to remember that nothing could touch certain parts of Buffy. Really though they were totally different shows, something that doesn't get acknowledged often and Buffy could have never done something like the amazing 'Are You Now Or Have You Ever Been'.

I always wanted Luke Perry to do a Pike cameo on the show

― da croupier, Thursday, April 28, 2011 3:46 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

or at least bring the paul reubens vampire on

― da croupier, Thursday, April 28, 2011 3:46 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

Yes and yes.

Voting "Angel" because its wrapup was ultimately so much more rewarding than Buffy's was, from SPOILERS Wesley's death to Lorne killing Lindsey then taking a powder to Angel's "I'll take the dragon." Fucking awesome.

Whedon's one of those guys with such bad luck I sometimes think it really is all luck. Like, smart guy, third generation TV writer (not many of them!), but remarkably hit or miss for a guy with a vision. "Buffy" may be the only time his talents were totally in sync with the Zeitgeist. Though I know he remains grouchy about his treatment re: "Toy Story," which apparently has its fingerprints all over it.

Some Toy Story backstory here:

http://classic-web.archive.org/web/20060102103544/http://www.infocusmag.com/05augustseptember/whedonuncut.htm

Parenthood (1990) – writer, co-producer

that's such a great movie! i fucking love it! didn't even know he was connected to this. YAY

buffy buffy buffy (tv show of course)

he wrote some really good episodes of roseanne iirc

btw, i picked buffy tv; no brainer

he wrote some really good episodes of roseanne iirc

― horseshoe, Friday, April 29, 2011 5:04 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

ok you tipped my scales to roseanne

Yeah, the 89/90 season was when she was working at the salon and Jackie was a cop iirc

fyi his Astonishing X-Men run is somewhat overrated

like, it was good, but it wasn't OMG AMAZEBALLS

i wanted dollhouse to be so much better than it was, still disappointed

― i can tina turner (elmo argonaut), Thursday, April 28, 2011 12:06 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

otm, but a friend of mine keeps trying to convince me to give the second season a chance. she claims it got better.

Parenthood. Except for Toy Story I've been underwhelmed by everything post-1990 (including Astonishing X-Men). I just don't like his schtick, but for some reason I keep giving it a chance.

i want credit for not posting all the "buffy's not that into *you*!" and "he doesn't like *your* schtick!" thoughts i'm having except oops

Firefly is what I'm most defensive and touchy about, which seems the best benchmark for Whedon fans including myself.

i still haven't finished firefly.

neither has Whedon.

speed is amazing, voted for that, didnt know he wrote for roseanne and was tempted but idk how much he contributed

i felt dollhouse S2 was insanely rushed towards the end. (granted, it may have been good for whedon, i mean he could have used a kick in the pants to keep things moving in the later seasons of buffy.) some of the big reveals in the last few eps just didn't make sense to me. i think the premise of the show is engineered for a multi-season series, capping it at 2 seasons kinda forced some weird moves imo. xp

firefly w/ ease

Parenthood (1990) – writer, co-producer

that's such a great movie! i fucking love it! didn't even know he was connected to this. YAY

this is the original spinoff TV show with Ed Begley Jr and the young Leo DiCaprio, FYI

lol that's quite a big difference (although i'd be kind of curious to see that, just to see if it was any good!)

ed begley jr supposedly has one of the hugest schlongs in hollywood

can we vote for ed begley's schlong?

Ed Begley's supposedly huge schlong has been one of my favorite hollywood gossip facts for years and every time I see the guy in something I think, "Oh hey, he has a massive dick."

I still haven't gotten really into Buffy yet so I voted Roseanne cause, well, awesome.

I voted Roseanne just based on the projects presented and not necessarily the level of involvement Whedon had with them.

wd not leave Whedon alone with children for 0.1 seconds

me: "huh he was a co-writer on Speed!"
N1ck: "I know plenty of cowriters on speed"

Haw haw.

I think I'll have to vote Firefly. Had no idea he did a season of Roseanne.

i mean it starts with a straight-up critique of some aspects of buffy which have nothing to do, really, with whedon's personal feminism

The piece repeatedly draws connections between plot/writing elements, his public words and the alleged stuff in his private life.

That point of the piece is to situate the writer on the right side of the argument, and the rest is unimportant.

Re: whether he's a feminist or not - who cares? Seems more important whether (as the ex-wife suggests) he abused his position as producer - not whether, say, he was mean to kill off Cordelia.

Interesting that Kai Cole says she was diagnosed with complex PTSD. I have too many thoughts on this! C-PTSD isn't a DSM-5 disorder but does go a long way to describe (and help treat) trauma felt by systemic oppression, abusive relationships, or unstable family lives

personally I would like to hear more of the thoughts!

guilty lol

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