Batman carries on beginning in ... The Dark Knight

Man, I sure had a lot to say about this movie.

we all did, apparently. it was a long summer.

A more innocent time, when all we worried about was Obama's celebrity and whether Michael Phelps used drugs.

i did make this point "if Batman was on one of the boats he wouldn't have had any trouble pushing the button."

and me from a few months ago makes me think now: i wonder if this is true? Batman claims to be able to make the decisions others can't make (like SCARY BLACK DUDE does..SCARY BLACK DUDE = Batman? or would batman push the button?)

oh im sorry "SCARY BLACK MAN", that is.

Man, I sure had a lot to say about this movie.

And it turns out I was right after all, as usual.

I really seriously doubt Batman would push the button.

yeah probably. the only way "out" the ethical paradoxes the Joker creates is to make the "impossible" decision, which is Batman's role, and i guess why he's banished "outside" where decisions like that are possible, and it's the same place as the SCARY BLACK MAN claims to come from before he tosses it out the window.

im really sorry. im an english/philosopher major and geek out over this stuff.

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/article2048300.ece

The Beverly Hills Cop star, 47, has been signed up by British director CHRISTOPHER NOLAN to reprise the role played by JIM CARREY in 1995’s Batman Forever.

The surprise move follows speculation linking Pirates of the Caribbean star JOHNNY DEPP to the part.

The film, set for a 2010 release, is being developed under the working title Gotham.

Execs have also signed up rising Transformers star SHIA LABEOUF, 22, to play Robin.

CHRISTIAN BALE will return as Bruce Wayne, while MICHAEL CAINE will again play Bruce’s assistant Alfred.

Meanwhile, Brit RACHEL WEISZ is said to be up for the Catwoman role.

Insiders also revealed to The Sun the flick will end on a cliffhanger over whether Batman survives a blast at Wayne Towers.

Nolan had been tight-lipped about the future of the Batman films after being rocked by the January death of HEATH LEDGER — tipped to receive a posthumous Oscar for his role as The Joker in Batman Returns.

A film insider said: “Chris wasn’t sure if he wanted to do another movie but as soon as he decided to, he got the wheels in motion.

“Eddie’s a fantastic addition. Everyone’s excited to see what he does as the Riddler.”

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Hmm, hopefully the addition of Murphy and Robin means the third movie will be more playful and not so gritty and serious. We've already had two movies of that, so maybe third one could be a bit different?

the playful batmans outnumber the 'gritty and serious' ones by a healthy margin

batman forever was awful, only thing good about it was the seal song on the soundtrack ^_^

Well, I've said it before and I don't really want to go to that debate again (see the Batman Begins thread), but since superheroes are by their very nature a fantasy/non-realist idea, if you take them too seriously the results will be either silly or morally questionable. Superheroes stories tend to work best if you treat them as modern fables rather than serious, realistic stories. Burton realized that, and I think he found a nice balance between "dark" and "playful". Nolan hasn't quite made it yet, but at least Dark Knight was an improvement over Batman Begins. I liked how he treated Joker more like a symbol than a "real" person with "real" psychological backstory. Though Two-Face didn't really work exactly because they tried to give him a "proper", credible psychological reason for becoming a villain, and it sounded ludicrous.

I hope this is bullshit. Em's gonna be distraught if Shia Leboeuf's in it.

I guess re; Eddie Murphy, that people were "wtf" at Heath ledger to start with.

YESSSSSSS @ Shia, that's such awesome and inspired casting (just watched Disturbia the other night!)

Well, at least Eddie as an actor seems to fit perfectly to the chosen role, which wasn't what people thought about Ledger when he was announced.

Or would someone really want a grim and gritty Riddler?

Oh well, this new franchise was a good run while it lasted.

Or would someone really want a grim and gritty Riddler?

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i wonder if that was the logic behind the jim carrey selection

Eh?

both of these castings are intriguing at the very least - but does murphy remember how to act while not wearing a fat suit? i wonder if he'll show up to the first day of casting as a fat, woman riddler out of habit

Batman Forever was before Carrey became a "serious" actor, right?

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ok you know what y'all are totally allowed to play along with whatever else you like but if anyone takes the following bait you will all get nothing but coal

"Though Two-Face didn't really work exactly because they tried to give him a "proper", credible psychological reason for becoming a villain, and it sounded ludicrous."

Everybody good with that?

xxxxpp

so what exactly does it take to write for the Sun? I just find it hard to believe Eddie starring in two such blockbusters 2010; Batman and "Untitled Eddie Murphy/Romeo and Juliet Project"

Is stating your opinion called "baiting" these days?

Tuomas, I don't know if you noticed, but while you were busy thinking Nolan's Batman films were too gritty, everyone else was out there making The Dark Knight the most popular and successful film EVER almost, so, y'know, shhhhh.

got the finn patrol on the challop patrol

Since when did "popular" equal "unassailable" on ILX?

And like I said, I liked DK more than BB, but there were certain things in it that I still didn't think worked so well, like Dent's transformation to Two-Face. Is that really a challenging opinion?

i think its a challop, unless you slept through the 90s, to imply that a wacky hijinks batman would be a good direction to go in.

Tuomas, there is no way anybody can mount a successful argument against your opinion that Harvey Dent's character arc into Two-Face seems ludicrous. You have structured your statement in such a way that is is essentially impossible to address without engaging in straw man or ad hominem fallacies (I didn't say that, why are you attacking me). Frankly you do this all the time, and for all intents, it boils down to flamebait.
So I'm giving you a fucking break and asking everybody else not to engage you in arguing about it so this thread stays open, I stay sane, you stay registered as a poster, and yellow cards are kept to a minimum.

You're pretty high up in the Suggest Ban standings. You may want to take a little bit of time and think about why that is (hint: I just told you).

Meanwhile, Brit RACHEL WEISZ is said to be up for the Catwoman role.

^^ oh hells yes

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u r welcome

You have structured your statement in such a way that is is essentially impossible to address without engaging in straw man or ad hominem fallacies (I didn't say that, why are you attacking me).

Hold on, what do you mean by this? My statement was just my honest opinion on the movie, I didn't mean it to be some sort of argument that can't be criticized, in fact I'd like to hear differing opinions on this thing.

So I'm giving you a fucking break and asking everybody else not to engage you in arguing about it so this thread stays open, I stay sane, you stay registered as a poster, and yellow cards are kept to a minimum. You're pretty high up in the Suggest Ban standings. You may want to take a little bit of time and think about why that is (hint: I just told you).

Hold on, is having differing opinions really enough to get suggest bans or yellow cards? If so, things have gotten kinda sad. I thought bans and yellow cards were meant to be only for personal abuse and stuff like that.

(The "Most consistent ILX posters" thread is a different issue, and I'm sorry for that.)

My statement was just my honest opinion on the movie

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Eddie Murphy, star of FAT BITCH and WHO DAT HINJA, in... THIS HONKY RIDDLER BE TRIPPIN'!

you guys realize this Sun story is BS right?

at least it's a bit more thought out than the one saying the guy from Twilight was the new Joker

Who the hell want robin in the film?
Will remember not to get excited about this one when it's coming out.

Apart from Weisz...

...drool.

the story IS probably a load of bull, but I wants me some catweisz.

but does murphy remember how to act while not wearing a fat suit?

Dude got an Oscar nom for "Showgirls!"

Basically, Eddie Murphy is a good actor who seems to desperately need a good director otherwise he runs roughshod over the movies he appears in (see also: Jim Carrey).

That Weisz shot feels astonishing.

That's not the only thing that feels astonishing.

I seem to remember reading Christian Bale said that he wouldn't do a Batman film with Robin in it.

Oh yeah:

“If Robin crops up in one of the new Batman films, I’ll be chaining myself up somewhere and refusing to go to work.”

http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/07/02/christian-bale-rules-out-robin-for-batman-3-and-beyond/

Dude got an Oscar nom for "Showgirls!"

Kyle McLachlan and Elizabeth Berkeley both should have been nominated.

Now I'm imagining a scene where Eddie Murphy gives Kyle M. a lapdance while Elizabeth Berkley watches.