CHIPS vs FRIES

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ohhhhhh no

VegemiteGrrl, Monday, 18 April 2011 08:50 (thirteen years ago) link

Never tried jellied eels. I expect them to be all salt and no flavour - true?

Yossarian's sense of humour (NotEnough), Monday, 18 April 2011 08:52 (thirteen years ago) link

MOVING RIGHT ALONG much like the contents of my stomach right now.

Curry sauce for chips is A LOT like the sauce for Japanese katsu curry. I don't think I've ever had any that contained readily identifiable vegetable matter apart from perhaps a bit of onion.

a modest broposal (suzy), Monday, 18 April 2011 08:55 (thirteen years ago) link

oooh it's like katsu sauce? Okay that sounds like it would be good then
I don't understand it on fish and chips though

VegemiteGrrl, Monday, 18 April 2011 08:57 (thirteen years ago) link

think i've been seriously remiss in not riding the curry + chips bandwagon. also, i haven't even eaten a single chip since i started this poll, wtf.

and the hint of parp (ledge), Monday, 18 April 2011 09:03 (thirteen years ago) link

do people in the uk have the "three in one" in bad chinese takeaways? i never see it here but it's basically fried rice, chips, and curry sauce. it is one of the most amazing drunk foods ever, just so fucking stodgy.

Will.Have.Known (Local Garda), Monday, 18 April 2011 09:04 (thirteen years ago) link

if i saw curry sauce offered in a chinese takeaway i would be raising an eyebrow.

and the hint of parp (ledge), Monday, 18 April 2011 09:06 (thirteen years ago) link

what? all chinese takeaways do curry sauce. all chinese takeaways ever do curry sauce.

Will.Have.Known (Local Garda), Monday, 18 April 2011 09:10 (thirteen years ago) link

*raises an eyebrow*

standing on the shoulders of pissants (ledge), Monday, 18 April 2011 09:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Chip shop or Chinese takeaway "curry sauce" is a bright yellow sludge which is flavoured with curry powder and nothing like anything you can get in an Indian restaurant. Similar to Currywurst sauce in Germany, if that helps any non-Britishers.

Our Chinese out in the provinces definitely does it, either as a "curry dish" or a tub on its own, and the chip shop will serve it with chips, but I don't think either will do it with chips and rice. Not as one item, anyway.

A takeaway box with half rice, half chips is a typical Chinese takeaway thing in Northern Ireland (where it's called a "half and half", and yes, you can have curry sauce on it) but I've never seen it here in the south of England. Someone told me they do it up north though.

dimension hatris (a passing spacecadet), Monday, 18 April 2011 09:19 (thirteen years ago) link

what? all chinese takeaways do curry sauce. all chinese takeaways ever do curry sauce.

― Will.Have.Known (Local Garda), Monday, April 18, 2011 5:10 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark

poll!

dayo, Monday, 18 April 2011 09:29 (thirteen years ago) link

IME Ronan otm. Chinese place curry sauce is awesome btw and is sort of similar to Katsu VG.

ENBB, Monday, 18 April 2011 09:30 (thirteen years ago) link

VG, re. this snack the curry sauce is never, ever served with fish and chips. Just with chips.

Curry sauce is always on the back page of the British Chinese menu with other 'extra' condiments like pancakes and additional tubs of sweet and sour sauce. It is also where you find the short list of English dishes for the food-insular. Plus the chips, which everyone eats. Without disparaging The Provinces or The Suburbs, the Chinese takeaway I associate with this menu is inevitably strip-lit and linoleum-floored and features foul versions of Cantonese food trends form the 1960s.

BTW an Irish coworker of mine in NYC in the '80s said that the Chinese takeaways in Dublin - the worst Chinese food she had ever eaten - found a way to include cabbage, carrots, peas and potatoes in ALL the dishes, regardless of aptness for the dish in question.

a modest broposal (suzy), Monday, 18 April 2011 09:45 (thirteen years ago) link

i will swear that there is no Chinese takeaway in the entire UK that doesn't do curry and chips. Chinese takeaway chips are usually pretty excellent as well, I assume because they have hotter fat than many regular chippies.

A Zed and Two Nults (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 April 2011 09:49 (thirteen years ago) link

i will investigate my local.

standing on the shoulders of pissants (ledge), Monday, 18 April 2011 09:50 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah exactly...aren't you uk ledge? to me questioning there being curry sauce in a chinese takeaway is like doubting that they serve rice.

Will.Have.Known (Local Garda), Monday, 18 April 2011 09:51 (thirteen years ago) link

xxp my favourite local chippy is a place that's owned and run by a Chinese family.

grill 'em bake 'em fry 'em burn 'em (snoball), Monday, 18 April 2011 09:52 (thirteen years ago) link

curry sauce is never, ever served with fish and chips. Just with chips.

Had fish + chips + curry sauce for my tea last night. It was epic.

Yossarian's sense of humour (NotEnough), Monday, 18 April 2011 09:57 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah exactly...aren't you uk ledge?

yeah but i think my eyes naturally avoid any part of a takeaway menu that doesn't deal in the actual ethnic cuisine of that specific establishment.

standing on the shoulders of pissants (ledge), Monday, 18 April 2011 10:09 (thirteen years ago) link

Perhaps the Chinese food you eat comes from higher-standard places without the 'English menu', like most places where I order takeaways. I have never ordered chips and curry sauce for delivery because the sauce would clag by the time it was delivered - it's definitely a drunken takeaway 'impulse buy'.

a modest broposal (suzy), Monday, 18 April 2011 10:19 (thirteen years ago) link

i never order delivery as i can't find any that's any good...

Will.Have.Known (Local Garda), Monday, 18 April 2011 10:37 (thirteen years ago) link

Oh katsu curry sauce of course. that makes a lot of sense. I actually think it'd be quite edible despite my earlier ew comment tbh. I like that generic Keens powder inna tub stuff when you make curried saussies with it. Oldstyle Aussie 70s comfort dinner innit.

Chinese takeaways here are quite their own thing. Standards are fried rice, sweet n sour pork, beef n black bean, mixed veg/tofu. All sitting soggily in bain maries. You'd never get chips or whatnot tho, those belong in burger/fish n chip takeaways.

Concubine Tree (Trayce), Monday, 18 April 2011 10:48 (thirteen years ago) link

my drunk food used to be fish+peas+curry sauce. I'm not sure how it started, but it was yummy.

steak sized chips are decent when cooked right. But love fries for the fact i can ram half a dozen in my mouth at a time.

if you wanna gamble, take that shit to vegas (Ste), Monday, 18 April 2011 11:01 (thirteen years ago) link

is that one good?

Will.Have.Known (Local Garda), Monday, 18 April 2011 11:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Chinese takeaways here are quite their own thing. Standards are fried rice, sweet n sour pork, beef n black bean, mixed veg/tofu. All sitting soggily in bain maries.

plz foreigners don't listen to the filthy lies being spread across ilx by mongxicans today

Hypermotard: (sic), Monday, 18 April 2011 11:15 (thirteen years ago) link

Ha! I speak purely of shitty chinee takeaways, I know there's better stuff around!

Concubine Tree (Trayce), Monday, 18 April 2011 11:17 (thirteen years ago) link

chinee takeaways

That be racist.daguerrotype

A Zed and Two Nults (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 April 2011 11:20 (thirteen years ago) link

xp Ronan, I think Gourmet San delivers and it's one of the best Chinese restaurants in all London. IT IS EVEN ON BETHNAL GREEN ROAD. You may not have ventured there because it is Szechuan and hellaciously spicy, but you could have an amazing not-too-overspiced dinner from there by ordering half a dozen lamb skewers, rice and chilli green beans.

a modest broposal (suzy), Monday, 18 April 2011 11:22 (thirteen years ago) link

i actually am mad keen to check out gourmet san....just for whatev reason have never done so, i've never booked and it's always busy. i think i knew they delivered as my flatmate had a menu lying around, then i seem to have completely forgotten this.

Will.Have.Known (Local Garda), Monday, 18 April 2011 11:40 (thirteen years ago) link

is that one good?

the link wasn't a recommendation, let's put it that way. check out those houseplants in the window. the inside is the grimmest thing you've ever seen, like stepping into communist poland. there's one counter and five plastic chairs against the wall. two or three sullen people sit in them, clutching carrier bags. they may have been there for years. everything is indescribably dingy. a television can be heard faintly from the back. one of the fluourescent lights has gone out.

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Monday, 18 April 2011 11:46 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, Tracer, I can't imagine you frequenting that establishment.

The key to getting a table at Gourmet San via the walk-up method is to go at 7pm.

a modest broposal (suzy), Monday, 18 April 2011 11:48 (thirteen years ago) link

check out those houseplants in the window. the inside is the grimmest thing you've ever seen, like stepping into communist poland. there's one counter and five plastic chairs against the wall. two or three sullen people sit in them, clutching carrier bags. they may have been there for years. everything is indescribably dingy. a television can be heard faintly from the back. one of the fluourescent lights has gone out.

in every small-town Chinese takeaway ever thread coming up

A Zed and Two Nults (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 April 2011 11:51 (thirteen years ago) link

must give that a go. i do have a soft spot for noodle king just a few doors up, not in any way going to challenge gourmet san for authenticity, but when i've been broke or jobless it is unbelievably cheap, 3.50 or so for a gigantic plate of rice or noodles.

x-post the chinese on globe road is the worst i've ever been to.

Will.Have.Known (Local Garda), Monday, 18 April 2011 11:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Noodle King is OK for what it is, but I made an ordering error there once by going off the noodles/rice grid for some seriously knuckly and flavourless 'hot and spicy' spare ribs.

'Houseplants' must be plastic to qualify for pride of place in such takeaways, which are not GANGSTA unless there is plexiglass between you and your server.

a modest broposal (suzy), Monday, 18 April 2011 11:55 (thirteen years ago) link

the singapore fried rice is the best thing in noodle king probably. the ribs do vary...they can be good but i know what you mean, gaping jaws of fat, shudder.

Will.Have.Known (Local Garda), Monday, 18 April 2011 12:04 (thirteen years ago) link

Speaking of authenticity and Chinese restaurants, even out here in the wilderness of Not London there are restaurants who put all the trad Anglo-Chinese takeaway fare at the front and then the main section of the menu trumpets its ~authenticity~

I have no idea how authentic these menus really are but there is usually some pretty interesting stuff in them

but if you order a chicken/duck dish from the "authentic" section, it's usually been diced with a cleaver while on the bone, leaving chunks and shards of bone in most of the slices, which are pretty hard to identify through the marinade and almost impossible to remove from the meat with chopsticks. So my question is, what is the proper way to eat these? Is there a nicer way than repeatedly picking bits of bone out of your mouth?

dimension hatris (a passing spacecadet), Monday, 18 April 2011 12:31 (thirteen years ago) link

But back to fried potatoes, the best kind are called beach fries and you douse them in malt vinegar and they look like this http://blog.streaminggourmet.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/P1000133.jpg.

phantoms from a world gone by speak again the immortal tale: (Jenny), Monday, 18 April 2011 12:32 (thirteen years ago) link

they look great.

estela, Monday, 18 April 2011 12:43 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah they look similar to the ones i had at Coney island

if you wanna gamble, take that shit to vegas (Ste), Monday, 18 April 2011 12:54 (thirteen years ago) link

but if you order a chicken/duck dish from the "authentic" section, it's usually been diced with a cleaver while on the bone, leaving chunks and shards of bone in most of the slices, which are pretty hard to identify through the marinade and almost impossible to remove from the meat with chopsticks. So my question is, what is the proper way to eat these? Is there a nicer way than repeatedly picking bits of bone out of your mouth?

― dimension hatris (a passing spacecadet), Monday, April 18, 2011 8:31 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

put the whole chunk in your mouth and spit the bones out on the table as you go (honest to god)

dayo, Monday, 18 April 2011 13:23 (thirteen years ago) link

Chinese takeaway chips are usually pretty excellent as well

cosign - my local Chinese takeaway does Salt&Pepper chips which are srsly good; seasoned to within an inch of their thick cut lives and covered in chopped red chilis.

Bill A, Monday, 18 April 2011 13:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Thanks dayo! Think I'll give the spitting a miss, but at least I know I'm not missing a trick.

dimension hatris (a passing spacecadet), Monday, 18 April 2011 13:43 (thirteen years ago) link

those beach fries look mighty good, with a little cajun seasoning.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 00:51 (twelve years ago) link


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