would expect a gooner to empathise with that tbph but there you go eh
― the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Thursday, 14 April 2011 13:59 (thirteen years ago) link
Just getting them in quick before Gomes has the game of his life against us to make up for it.
― James Mitchell, Thursday, 14 April 2011 14:05 (thirteen years ago) link
nah not gonna happen, we've not much hope of building up a head of steam now.
Tho iirc he made the difference last year after rvp came on.
― the salmon of procrastination (darraghmac), Thursday, 14 April 2011 14:10 (thirteen years ago) link
We'd need to shoot from outside the box, so it's never going to happen. And every keeper has the game of their life against us. Even Paul Robinson.
― James Mitchell, Thursday, 14 April 2011 14:12 (thirteen years ago) link
lock this thread, re-open the old one. there are only three big clubs in england, the ones that score phantom goals and can't ever have their centre halves sent off. everyone else makes up the numbers.
― So seveir, no more beir (darraghmac), Sunday, 1 May 2011 14:43 (thirteen years ago) link
heh
― pandemic, Sunday, 1 May 2011 15:26 (thirteen years ago) link
Or change the thread title to 'WE THOUGHT TOTTENHAM WERE A BIG CLUB FOR 11 MONTHS, WE WERE WRONG'.
― James Mitchell, Sunday, 1 May 2011 15:42 (thirteen years ago) link
you'd think with spurs having spent 6000 billion in the last few years they'd have bribed some refs and got more than one cl jaunt out of it.
― Will.Have.Known (Local Garda), Sunday, 1 May 2011 23:40 (thirteen years ago) link
While the priority will be looking for new arrivals, Redknapp knows he has some big decisions to make in terms of what happens with a number of his squad who have failed to come up to scratch this season.
None of his three strikers - Peter Crouch, Jermain Defoe or Roman Pavlyuchenko - have impressed
fuck this for accepted narrative bullshit
Rafael Van der Vaart 35 14 Roman Pavlyuchenko 37 12 Gareth Bale 40 11 Peter Crouch 44 11 Jermain Defoe 28 8
pav's 37 appearances includes 13 sub appearances, as far as i can work out.
― Britain, the 51sb State (darraghmac), Monday, 16 May 2011 16:45 (thirteen years ago) link
You'd have to be very charitable to say that Pavlyuchenko has "impressed" this season really.
― Matt DC, Monday, 16 May 2011 16:46 (thirteen years ago) link
scoring rate stands up, this season and throughout his time with us.
and his general play far outshines crouch/defoe imo (though i'd have to acknowledge vdv's handy knack of being in the right place to benefit from crouch's shit headers)
― Britain, the 51sb State (darraghmac), Monday, 16 May 2011 16:50 (thirteen years ago) link
ha just found this. shit so far
http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8750_6930324,00.html
i mean, alan hutton 'keep' kyle walker 'season long loan' stfu mate
― Britain, the 51sb State (darraghmac), Monday, 16 May 2011 16:52 (thirteen years ago) link
Jermaine JenasHas to be rated as one of the worst players in the Premier League. Every time he plays Spurs lose due to his lack of ability to read the game. He should be playing Championship football next season.Verdict: Ditch
i forgive u
― Britain, the 51sb State (darraghmac), Monday, 16 May 2011 16:54 (thirteen years ago) link
Also Corluka 'ditch'.
― Matt DC, Monday, 16 May 2011 16:55 (thirteen years ago) link
well yeah!
corluka, walker as the rb options next season looks more than a good mix to me.
Palacios, troubling. I'd say rid but then there was the spell last year when he was brilliant.
― Britain, the 51sb State (darraghmac), Monday, 16 May 2011 17:00 (thirteen years ago) link
Anyway, I'm thinking:
SELL - Gomes, Bentley, Jenas, Keane, Crouch, Pavlyuchenko, Dos Santos, Hutton, maybe Bassong but knowing our defensive injury recordSIGN - A goalkeeper, at least two big strikers, a left-back to put pressure on BAE and to ensure we never have to play Danny Rose there againPROMOTE - Walker, maybe Caulker to the squad, dunno what's happened to Bostock but I assume he's not gonna make it
Would keep Kranjcar and play him more often, Palacios as a squad player but behind Sandro in the pecking order.
I'd kinda like a right midfielder with more penetration, Lennon is exciting but inconsistent and come on we're still occasionally playing Jenas there.
― Matt DC, Monday, 16 May 2011 17:02 (thirteen years ago) link
How much deadwood can we get away with flogging to QPR I wonder?
― Matt DC, Monday, 16 May 2011 17:03 (thirteen years ago) link
SELL- Gomes, Bentley, Keane, Jenas, Crouch, Dos Santos, HuttonBUY- Everyone you said, and a first team centre-half (I'd keep Bassong, I don't think he's as bad a player as he's looked all season)PROMOTE- Walker, definitely. You'd know more about the others.
Random- Keep Kranjcar, Palacios, Pienaar as 3/4 of our 2nd midfield- it's not like we don't get injuries or need to refresh things FFS Arry). Agree completely that a new right winger is needed to make up that quartet.
― Britain, the 51sb State (darraghmac), Monday, 16 May 2011 17:12 (thirteen years ago) link
i do think we could be the equivalent of QPR's one stop shop, if you look at that first line.
― Britain, the 51sb State (darraghmac), Monday, 16 May 2011 17:13 (thirteen years ago) link
is there a lower EPL striker you'd bank on to improve us, or would you rather go abroad? Not that our hitrate is inspired with either option.
Rodallega, Demba Ba, Odemwingie, might all be good options i think
― Britain, the 51sb State (darraghmac), Monday, 16 May 2011 17:18 (thirteen years ago) link
wow
this site is the absolute balls
http://www.imscouting.com/reports-generator3/?id=40&t=601&p1=0&p2=100&p3=0&p4=10#rep
anyway ^ spurs players' minutes-per-goal this season
― Britain, the 51sb State (darraghmac), Monday, 16 May 2011 17:23 (thirteen years ago) link
I missed Gio dos Santos's first spell in England but he's been excellent for Santander imo. Is he not a good match for the Prem style-of-play wise or is it that his relationship with Redknapp is beyond repair?
― boxall, Monday, 16 May 2011 17:26 (thirteen years ago) link
I wouldn't say no to any of them as squad players per se, same with Gyan, but I don't think any of them are exactly The Answer.
― Matt DC, Monday, 16 May 2011 17:26 (thirteen years ago) link
it's both at this stage, but for the record i didn't think he was as bad/uninterested as his performances were painted in his first spell
― Britain, the 51sb State (darraghmac), Monday, 16 May 2011 17:27 (thirteen years ago) link
that minutes-per-goal for the league as a whole (minimum 300 mins played)
http://www.imscouting.com/reports-generator3/?id=40&l=5304&p1=0&p2=300&p3=0&p4=10#rep
ie, chelsea have a more effective player than hernandez already sorted
― Britain, the 51sb State (darraghmac), Monday, 16 May 2011 17:28 (thirteen years ago) link
i'm creating another thread for that site, it's awesome
― Britain, the 51sb State (darraghmac), Monday, 16 May 2011 17:29 (thirteen years ago) link
Might as well sell Dos Santos, with the number of wide players we've got he's never going to get near our team long enough to either adapt to the Premiership or for us to say for sure that he's a failure.
― Matt DC, Monday, 16 May 2011 17:30 (thirteen years ago) link
would definitely rather keep kranjcar for the vdv/bale/modric cover than dos santos
jesus when you think that niko covers three first team positions to such a high standard (and for players that are injured the whole time) it's fucking criminal he's leaving due to lack of game time.
― Britain, the 51sb State (darraghmac), Monday, 16 May 2011 17:34 (thirteen years ago) link
Rafael Van Der Vaart Tottenham Hotspur 2154 13 7 107.7Roman Pavlyuchenko Tottenham Hotspur 1476 8 4 123.0Niko Kranjcar Tottenham Hotspur 359 2 0 179.5Peter Crouch Tottenham Hotspur 1872 4 6 187.2Jermain Defoe Tottenham Hotspur 1388 4 2 231.3Steven Pienaar Tottenham Hotspur 493 0 2 246.5Tom Huddlestone Tottenham Hotspur 1081 2 2 270.3Aaron Lennon Tottenham Hotspur 2180 3 3 363.3Gareth Bale Tottenham Hotspur 2362 5 1 393.7Luka Modric Tottenham Hotspur 2620 3 2 524.0Alan Hutton Tottenham Hotspur 1677 2 1 559.0
goals/assists per minute for the season
drop-off in effectiveness after crouch (CROUCH FFS) is staggering. Bale I can't slag, he deserves better strikers at the end of his delivery, but Modric def. needs to add some more fional product
― Britain, the 51sb State (darraghmac), Monday, 16 May 2011 18:20 (thirteen years ago) link
Lennon too, tho all three of those last mentioned have got serious roles in the team in moving the ball at pace (tho the lack of intelligent movement from the likes of crouch/defoe tends to see that wasted too)
― Britain, the 51sb State (darraghmac), Monday, 16 May 2011 18:23 (thirteen years ago) link
come on son use your loaf, ur holding up those cod stats like actually they mean something
― r|t|c, Monday, 16 May 2011 21:49 (thirteen years ago) link
― Matt DC, Monday, 16 May 2011 18:03 (4 hours ago) Bookmark
i was having this exact convo with a spurs chum and i gotta admit i wasnt comfortable with what i found myself saying
― r|t|c, Monday, 16 May 2011 21:50 (thirteen years ago) link
sign: sticklebrick off ajax (quickly), parker (sandro or no sandro this is inevitable so may as well pretend it was your idea. fyi i think he's necessary), and that marin bloke off werder bremen. big striker? who knows, buy a ticket in the llorente, hulk and lukaku lotteries and cross ur fingers i guess.
sell: lennon cos he is a lazy cunt who cant even do the one thing he does any more and liverpool might still pay £15m. (walker can totally do his job fine even if there's no replacement). the usual blokes too. keep charlie.
― r|t|c, Monday, 16 May 2011 22:06 (thirteen years ago) link
pletikosa chimbonda corluka archibald-henvillebentley hutton vieira cattermole jenas crouch dos santos kenwyne jones
chimbonda corluka archibald-henville
bentley hutton vieira cattermole jenas
crouch dos santos kenwyne jones
― no xmas for jonchaies (nakhchivan), Monday, 16 May 2011 22:13 (thirteen years ago) link
lol
― r|t|c, Monday, 16 May 2011 23:43 (thirteen years ago) link
great english spine to that side
― Phelan Nulty (Local Garda), Monday, 16 May 2011 23:57 (thirteen years ago) link
trying for a classic english 3-2-2-1-3
― no xmas for jonchaies (nakhchivan), Monday, 16 May 2011 23:59 (thirteen years ago) link
marin lw surely not a priority position, same for parker?
I like nakh's lineup tho i wd swap cattermole for zokora obv
― Britain, the 51sb State (darraghmac), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 00:13 (thirteen years ago) link
Alain Didier Zokora-Déguy (born on 14 December 1980 in Abidjan, Côte d'Ivoire) is an Ivorian footballer who plays the position of midfielder. He joined the La Liga team Sevilla FC in the summer of 2009. Zokora plays in a defensive role and is a strong tactical player in the middle of the park. He has not scored an outfield goal in seven and a half years.
― no xmas for jonchaies (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 00:15 (thirteen years ago) link
he is a strong tactica no fuckit i can't even
― Britain, the 51sb State (darraghmac), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 00:16 (thirteen years ago) link
ya he is one of the /least/ tactically sound defensive midfielders to have played at that level
― no xmas for jonchaies (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 00:17 (thirteen years ago) link
maybe he plays in the andalucian u-11 park football league, in which case his strength and tactical insight are probably above average
― no xmas for jonchaies (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 00:19 (thirteen years ago) link
his one talent was running with the ball
That's not even a relevant talent ffs.
He passed/shot like he had shovels for feet, on the wrong feet
Awful, awful player. Even with a pass completion of 12% palacios is so much better.
― Britain, the 51sb State (darraghmac), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 00:20 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fmxm0ArnCLg
― no xmas for jonchaies (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 00:21 (thirteen years ago) link
can't vyoutubes on phone innit but i've enjoyed our discussion on the lack of merits of dzok, or 'dooks' as you prob refer to him
― Britain, the 51sb State (darraghmac), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 01:42 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3fxREVLiyo&feature=share
― mizzell, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 03:15 (thirteen years ago) link
Think the Parker signing is going to happen whatever and I think he'll add balance to our midfield. Sandro/Parker/Modders or Parker/Modders/Thudd depending who we're playing is potentially very tasty in the middle of the park.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 15:04 (thirteen years ago) link
i agree, would love to see a 4-3-3 played at some point with one of those midfields. for strikers, there has been a lot of news about Osvaldo, from Espanyol, don't know much about him, but hope spurs get someone young that can develop with the young midfield. plus maybe a veteran like klose. wonder if lukas podolski is possible. don't know why he has never been able to score for a club since leaving Koln the first time, but his international scoring record is great. maybe put him, klose, and van der vaart in front of that midfield.
― mizzell, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 15:32 (thirteen years ago) link
154 (35) - combined league matches and goals for Klose and Podolski the past three seasons.
― boxall, Tuesday, 17 May 2011 15:45 (thirteen years ago) link
beats crouch defoe imo, podolski can at least play in the likes of modric
― Britain, the 51sb State (darraghmac), Tuesday, 17 May 2011 15:50 (thirteen years ago) link