Rolling UK Comedy Thread - "Ricky Don't Lose Larry David's Number

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I gree LB could not have happened without certain grey areas being legitimized by Chris Morris, but then could the Suomi ethnic cleansing programme in Sweden have happened without Charles Darwin?

― Pete (Pete), Friday, 19 January 2007 09:18 (seventeen years ago) link

jagger is otm re little britain's antecedents. something like 'nighty night' is more directly morris-y. but anyway it's not morris's fault what people take from him (and it's not like he was in a bubble or 100% original, and he had very talented collaborators...).

― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Friday, 19 January 2007 09:26 (seventeen years ago) link

> jagger is otm re little britain's antecedents.

citation required.

there's a dvd extra on the LB dvds that is them talking about their influences but sadly(!) i haven't seen it. i have them down more as Dick Emery copyists.

― My Koogy Weighs A Ton (koogs), Friday, 19 January 2007 10:32 (seventeen years ago) link

'Little Britain [...] took its cue from things like the League Of Gentlemen and the Fast Show'1

1 Jagger, Louis, posted at Rolling UK Comedy Thread - "Ricky Don't Lose Larry David's Number, 19 January 2007

― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Friday, 19 January 2007 10:37 (seventeen years ago) link

yeh but dick emery didn't have people proclaiming his work as satirical genius and i'm pretty sure he didn't have people puking after eating food cooked by asians. hey if you put some late nineties warp shit behind that and got julia davis and kevin eldon to act it...

― acrobat (elwisty), Friday, 19 January 2007 11:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Little Britain's Tom Baker narrations are probably inspired by the similarly styled intro narrations from The Smell Of Reeves & Mortimer (Lucas having risen up thru ranks via them).

― vita susicivus (blueski), Friday, 19 January 2007 11:03 (seventeen years ago) link

bollox, that's not blue-jammy at all, which was mostly about doctors, mental health, and our attitudes towards children.

xpost

steve otm there.

― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Friday, 19 January 2007 11:04 (seventeen years ago) link

did morris never fuck with race then?

― acrobat (elwisty), Friday, 19 January 2007 11:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Fur Q

― vita susicivus (blueski), Friday, 19 January 2007 11:06 (seventeen years ago) link

"representing every black man in Britain.... i am deeply sorry"

― acrobat (elwisty), Friday, 19 January 2007 11:10 (seventeen years ago) link

WOMAN: It's him from next door again.

MAN: What's he want now, eh?

[Him from next door enters - he's a stereotyped Pakistani character.]

HIM: Ah, Mr Eddie. I was wondering if I could be borrowing a cup of sugar for my lunch.

MAN: What's he say?

WOMAN: He said he wants you to give him a punch.

MAN: Ah. [He does so.]

HIM: Oooh, ooh! You misunderstanding me, I am asking for sugar. That is why I am here.

MAN: I can't understand a bleedin' word he's saying!

WOMAN: He says he wants you to give him a thick ear.

MAN: Oh, right. [He obliges.]

HIM: Oooow, ooooh!

― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Friday, 19 January 2007 11:11 (seventeen years ago) link

"representing every black man in Britain.... i am deeply sorry"
-- acrobat (p---_s---...), January 19th, 2007.

which makes a point, and a good one, about representations of race in current affairs broadcasting. 'little britain' isn't in the same game, let alone the same ballpark.

― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Friday, 19 January 2007 11:12 (seventeen years ago) link

CHRIS MORRIS: BEATING DAVID WALLIAMS AT A GAME HE COULDN'T EVEN BE BOTHERED TO PLAY

― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Friday, 19 January 2007 11:13 (seventeen years ago) link

BUT LB would like to THINK, or at one point did, that something like the ladies being sick is making similar points. tbh honest i can't quite see the "point" if any of that sketch beyond sometimes "repectable" people harbour racist views but when it goes on week after week it kind of loses any meaning. surely though walliams and lucas would use some kind of satirical justification for that sketch.

― acrobat (elwisty), Friday, 19 January 2007 11:16 (seventeen years ago) link

new thread idea: white male British comedians who HAVEN'T at one point or another 'blacked up'

― vita susicivus (blueski), Friday, 19 January 2007 11:27 (seventeen years ago) link

'little britain' isn't in the same game, let alone the same ballpark.

this is what i've been trying to say. the workings of, say, 'brass eye' are incalculably more interesting than the dumb-as-shit plodding idiocy of LB. to compare the two is futile.

answer to steve's question: Bill Bailey

― to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Friday, 19 January 2007 15:42 (seventeen years ago) link

i am not comparing the two i am just saying one was less likely to have happened without the other.

― acrobat (elwisty), Friday, 19 January 2007 16:27 (seventeen years ago) link

hmm, yes, but that in itself is an acknowledgement of artistic lineage and therefore an indirect comparison (or, to be fairer, it's a proposition that automatically invites comparison). Personally I think that if anything un-PC television became MORE of a risk after the BE paedophile special, and the outrage it engendered.

still the greatest (if you bear in mind its importance and the effect it had as well as its quality) single episode of television there has ever been.

― to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Friday, 19 January 2007 16:36 (seventeen years ago) link

LB's off-beam Tom Baker narrations are right out of Lee and Herring's "Lionel Nimrod". LN featured Tom Baker introducing the show as an omniscient narrator who spouted nonsense. hmmm

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Friday, 19 January 2007 16:41 (seventeen years ago) link

BES wasn't un PC it's most vocal supporters were all liberals!

― acrobat (elwisty), Friday, 19 January 2007 16:53 (seventeen years ago) link

well, the best kind of un-PC is liberal un-PC! :-D

― to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Friday, 19 January 2007 18:10 (seventeen years ago) link

what is fundementally wrong with political correctness?

― acrobat (elwisty), Friday, 19 January 2007 19:31 (seventeen years ago) link

When people misinterpret its well-meaning essence and use it to excuse their own self-serving bullshit (see: most news stations, hence CM's parodies).

― to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Friday, 19 January 2007 20:00 (seventeen years ago) link

isnt morris generally parodying the simplification and hyperbole of news media rather than attacking PC perse. maybe rosie may is an attack on evironmentalism but it's probably more just that it is quite funny to put a beard on Rebecca Front.

― acrobat (elwisty), Friday, 19 January 2007 20:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, he's attacking sensationalism (and having a right good laugh at the same time), but he's also skewering a certain, cloying sort of hush-hush political correctness.

"These images were deemed too shocking to show. That we do so tonight is only with the proviso..."

― to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Friday, 19 January 2007 20:33 (seventeen years ago) link

surely that's daily mail prudishness rather than PC?

― acrobat (elwisty), Friday, 19 January 2007 21:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Well, I don't think the softly-softly ignore-it-and-it-disappears approach is typical of the Daily Mail, more the entire televisual media. Chris Morris isn't attacking one thing here anyway; he's savaging everything he hates, despises or finds amusing about the world of news reporting. Which amounts to quite a lot, in fact!

― to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Friday, 19 January 2007 21:44 (seventeen years ago) link

I just think throwing the term PC around, especially in the sense of celebrating something being un PC exactly shows up the route that has taken us from morris to little britain

― acrobat (elwisty), Saturday, 20 January 2007 02:18 (seventeen years ago) link

also
The existence of PC has been alleged and denounced by conservative, (Lind, Buchanan, Sobran), liberal (Hentoff 1992, Schlesinger 1998), and other (Brandt 1992) authors. Its existence, however, is hotly contested. Some left-wing authors (Messer-Davidow 1993, Schultz 1993, Glassner 1999) have argued that "political correctness" is a straw man, meant to discredit what they consider progressive social change, especially around issues of race and gender.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_correctness#History

hey it's wikipedia but y know...

― acrobat (elwisty), Saturday, 20 January 2007 02:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I have just watched my first ever episode of Harry Hill's TV Burp. I have never really liked Harry Hill, and my opinion hasn't changed as a result. Also, blacking up (crap sketch based on Dev from Coronation Street in the style of Morecambe and Wise making breakfast).

Dumb comedy = Not Going Out. An entire show based around the premise of using as much of Lee Mack's standup (generally unfunny) and Tim Vine's standup (hit and miss, usually fairly amusing) routines and then fashioning a ridiculously bad plot around them. Basically, it is extremely shite, but can also raise a giggle. But you'd be better watching Tim Vine doing stand-up rather than Tim Vine shoe-horning his stand-up into a ludicrous domestic sitcom.

― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 21 January 2007 12:52 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.dirkgently1.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/images/harry.jpg

― acrobat (elwisty), Sunday, 21 January 2007 13:13 (seventeen years ago) link

that image signifies wrongness.

"tabby cat - can live with that
if it's leopardy - you're in jeopardy
except you know it doesn't actually work in the southern hemisphere..."

― acrobat (elwisty), Sunday, 21 January 2007 13:14 (seventeen years ago) link

TV Burp made me cry with laughter as usual. Blacking up probably a bad idea tho. Ken Barlow as a ventriloquist's dummy is priceless.

― God Bows to Meth (noodle vague), Sunday, 21 January 2007 13:23 (seventeen years ago) link

i finally watched the Hill Xmas TV Burp last night and haven't roffled at anything that much for some time. this blacking up thing sounds wrong tho (saw some of last night's show but missed this).

― vita susicivus (blueski), Sunday, 21 January 2007 13:26 (seventeen years ago) link

I guess he'd argue that it was just part of his Dev impersonation, but however you look at it, he was getting roffles from the fact of blacking up.

I missed the Xmas ep :(

― God Bows to Meth (noodle vague), Sunday, 21 January 2007 13:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, that was good (Ken as dummy). I don't know what I was expecting TV Burp to be, but that wasn't it. Perhaps it would be better if (1) you mentalists hadn't made it out to be the greatest thing ever and (2) I didn't want to punch Harry Hill in the face every time he opens his mouth. Or does his hyuk hyuk face, in fact.

― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 21 January 2007 13:29 (seventeen years ago) link

It is the best thing ever tho! The funniest, anyway. I guess hating HH's persona is a big stumbling block to getting full enjoyment. ;__;

― God Bows to Meth (noodle vague), Sunday, 21 January 2007 13:32 (seventeen years ago) link

And I would have been very unlikely to see that woman who dressed her daughter up as a Doctor Who monster if not for TVB.

― God Bows to Meth (noodle vague), Sunday, 21 January 2007 13:38 (seventeen years ago) link

re: the blacking up. i did go "eh?" but he dresses up as women if he's being deidre or janice battersby. i'm not sure the laugh was not 'cos he was in black face but because he was in dev's place.

so uh Shilpa Fuckawillah or Shilpa Poppadum for the next series of Little Britian?

― acrobat (elwisty), Sunday, 21 January 2007 19:14 (seventeen years ago) link

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i think the laugh was not 'cos he was in black face perse but because he was in dev's place being silly.

― acrobat (elwisty), Sunday, 21 January 2007 19:16 (seventeen years ago) link

I can see that. It's a very iffy line to walk though, and this was probably not the best week, TV-wise, to do it.

― God Bows to Meth (noodle vague), Sunday, 21 January 2007 19:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Noodle Vague OTM, also Dev has enough overstated mannerisms that you could convey the essence of Dev (stupid hair, ridiculous enunciation) without going "wooh, he's not white".

― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 21 January 2007 20:34 (seventeen years ago) link

i like 'tv burp', probably in a slightly unusual way in that i don't watch any other itv shows. it works anyway but even still. re blakcing up, i don't think it's wrong in all circumstances, but the pretext was a bit flimsy here, no?

― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Monday, 22 January 2007 09:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I like TV Burp, it is good. Although it suffers from a lack of Club Reps these days.

There was a new comedy series on BBC 3 last night called Thieves Like Us. I could not really pay attention as I was engaged in conversation, but it featured the Goldie lookalike from The Smoking Room. Perhaps we can see a BBC 3 mafia beginning to form, what with the rise and rise of Myfanwy off Little Britain, etc.

Anyway, was this programme any good? It involved nicking tellies, like on Max and Paddy.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 13:13 (seventeen years ago) link

TV Burp's a lot funnier than it should be. I mean, Harry Hill dicking around for half an hour while channel hopping sia simple enough concept, but it gets the roffles from me, thanks UKn0v@!

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 13:19 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm sure HH has done skits as dev before. and in the same style

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 13:23 (seventeen years ago) link

To be honest, not blacking up would have just left a massive elephant in the room. The laffs come from Harry Hill doing a bad impression of someone, and not blacking up per se. I want to live in a world where people can black up for comedy skits and it not be a problem.

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 13:49 (seventeen years ago) link

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― ledge (ledge), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 13:56 (seventeen years ago) link

― ledge (ledge), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 13:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Reeves & Mortimer did it relatively well on occasion (the Lethal Weapon pisstake on Shooting Stars with Bob as Danny Glover = lololololol) altho they did tend to get a few complaints in the process (esp. for the Otis Redding & Marvin Gaye stuff on The Smell Of...to the extent where they had to do it without the make-up in the end).

― vita susicivus (blueski), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 14:00 (seventeen years ago) link

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