yeah NIN pretty much dead to me
― broke my o_O face o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 15:52 (thirteen years ago) link
You're lying through your teeth..
― kkvgz, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 15:52 (thirteen years ago) link
I strongly recommend the Year Zero remix album, if only for this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky5LNAL12mI
― fat fat fat fat Usher (DJP), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 15:59 (thirteen years ago) link
so watch yourself, and watch what you say, they'll all die
― allmypulp, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 16:01 (thirteen years ago) link
interesting thread - didnt we have a Filth Pig one?I find Filth Pig has aged relatively well and could now be seen as proto-sludge. The Fall, Brick Windows, Lava and especially the Dylan cover are definitely keepers.
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 20:52 (thirteen years ago) link
the dylan cover was great
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 20:53 (thirteen years ago) link
haha like half the initial ilx search results for "filth pig" are me hating on it
― broke my o_O face o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 20:55 (thirteen years ago) link
it's a bag of sick masquerading as an album
― fat fat fat fat Usher (DJP), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 20:57 (thirteen years ago) link
the other half of the results are you saying "are you sure you didnt spell psalm 69 wrong" so
― broke my o_O face o_O (jjjusten), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 20:57 (thirteen years ago) link
i cant trust dan on this subject if he hates psalm 69 and thinks the rot set in earlier
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 13 April 2011 20:59 (thirteen years ago) link
ha
― fat fat fat fat Usher (DJP), Wednesday, 13 April 2011 21:00 (thirteen years ago) link
not sure of y'all already knowthere's a ministry documentary fresh outit's like ministry but also with mad heroin and bullet-proof vests
― the arching beast limb vulva singing upside down and backwards (jdchurchill), Thursday, 21 April 2011 04:17 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.fixtheministrymovie.com/
― the arching beast limb vulva singing upside down and backwards (jdchurchill), Thursday, 21 April 2011 04:19 (twelve years ago) link
ok haha i am listening through the ministry catalog in order to make my wedding playlist (yeah i know) and guys. thieves is so so good.
― The Band Perry is the drummer for Gay Dad (jjjusten), Thursday, 28 April 2011 05:57 (twelve years ago) link
also before i look like i am having some sort of rivethead prom for my wedding, this isnt making the cut but still
fuck
it makes me all teenagery
― The Band Perry is the drummer for Gay Dad (jjjusten), Thursday, 28 April 2011 05:59 (twelve years ago) link
best use of a drill sample outside of maybe that slapshot album no one else in the world likes
― The Band Perry is the drummer for Gay Dad (jjjusten), Thursday, 28 April 2011 06:00 (twelve years ago) link
Give in to your past.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 April 2011 06:02 (twelve years ago) link
i would say what i picked but i cant ruin dans special day
― The Band Perry is the drummer for Gay Dad (jjjusten), Thursday, 28 April 2011 06:10 (twelve years ago) link
if you picked "Cannibal Song" I will cut you on your wedding day
― Dreaded Burrito Gang (DJP), Friday, 29 April 2011 21:35 (twelve years ago) link
Throw Dan in a celll-llll-llll...
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 29 April 2011 22:07 (twelve years ago) link
I am listening to this again to see if I still hate it and so far all signs point towards YES
It's proto-Filth Pig, only even more static and boring. GOD was way better at this type of thing.
― Dreaded Burrito Gang (DJP), Friday, 29 April 2011 22:19 (twelve years ago) link
Our own xhuxk does some spelunking.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 23 February 2012 19:04 (twelve years ago) link
"Then, two years later, with barbarian-come-lately mastermind Al Jourgensen seemingly inspired by certain big and black swine-fornicating post-hardcore outfits from the onetime Hog Butcher of the World..."
nice piece. enjoyed the summaries and dot-connecting, both for stuff i know and love (killing joke! butthole surfers! voivod!) and artists that are less familiar to me.
kind of funny/odd that he hints at big black's (i think obvious) influence on ministry's transformation, but doesn't devote an entry to them. rolands need love, too.
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Thursday, 23 February 2012 19:31 (twelve years ago) link
Two points:
1) I wouldn't call Land and Mind "interchangeable" at all. The songs on the former are much more simplistic (and, yes, Big Black-esque); the latter features real live human drummers, blatant Killing Joke imitations and a general increase in structural complexity.
2) New Rigor Mortis album this year, recorded at Jourgensen's studio with the full original lineup! I am excited.
― 誤訳侮辱, Thursday, 23 February 2012 19:50 (twelve years ago) link
How is "Burning Inside" more structurally complex than "Stigmata"?
― (thinks and smiles) (DJP), Thursday, 23 February 2012 19:52 (twelve years ago) link
id say they arent interchangable, but mostly because of the shift from keys/samples/drum machine to geetars/drumming as musical focus
― Thu'um gang (jjjusten), Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:03 (twelve years ago) link
if it wasnt for land of rape and honey, my favorite ministry album would prob be Rabies by Skinny Puppy when I really think about it
― Thu'um gang (jjjusten), Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:05 (twelve years ago) link
oh duh wait never mind, twitch exists. lol @ me
― Thu'um gang (jjjusten), Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:08 (twelve years ago) link
^^^ unsurprisingly I think jjj is OTM
― (thinks and smiles) (DJP), Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:21 (twelve years ago) link
it's not like he was writing different types of songs, he was just using different types of instruments
― (thinks and smiles) (DJP), Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:22 (twelve years ago) link
still don't think executive slacks get enough cred/love as far as american industrorock pioneering goes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zHsJZTZo5o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AV7LcUM2RM
― scott seward, Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:28 (twelve years ago) link
and they went jockrock by 1986. and started wearing mirror shades.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIaYZi4e5TY
― scott seward, Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:29 (twelve years ago) link
wish i still owned all their albums. i think i had everything they ever put out. i better go buy them again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srmoSEs7GH0
― scott seward, Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:31 (twelve years ago) link
btw listening to Mind... in its entirety for the first time in years and the idea that droning on six minutes instead of four is "a general increase in structural complexity" is incredibly funny
― robbery by sudden snatching (DJP), Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:32 (twelve years ago) link
Love "Mind."
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:18 (twelve years ago) link
12" Singles > Twitch > LORAH > With Sympathy > Mind > everything else
― robbery by sudden snatching (DJP), Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:22 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.davidbergman.net/blogpics/20080501_Ministry_sm_0145.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 February 2012 21:26 (twelve years ago) link
my favorite ministry album would prob be Rabies by Skinny Puppy when I really think about it
Says more about the quality of Skinny Puppy's worst album etc
― Aunt Acid and the Gaviscons (aldo), Thursday, 23 February 2012 22:08 (twelve years ago) link
Never liked Ministry AT ALL but recently really really got into Twitch
― Not only dermatologists hate her (James Morrison), Thursday, 23 February 2012 22:53 (twelve years ago) link
ya Twitch is bad ass
― robbery by sudden snatching (DJP), Thursday, 23 February 2012 22:58 (twelve years ago) link
Twitch was always my favorite.
And xxpp -- I obviously wanted to include Big Black, but couldn't, since they're not on Rhapsody (which I assume was Albini's decision -- his other bands aren't on there, either.)
― xhuxk, Thursday, 23 February 2012 23:06 (twelve years ago) link
i like twitch a bunch. and i liked the first album and singles too. and i think land of rape & honey is the last really cohesive/good slbum he did. but there is good stuff on the albums that came after.
― scott seward, Thursday, 23 February 2012 23:14 (twelve years ago) link
chuck, isn't there a way to add this song to your column? 1986!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgTHmlVmP78
― scott seward, Thursday, 23 February 2012 23:16 (twelve years ago) link
feel like half of wax trax could have been directly inspired by ex slacks. and the other half by the country of belgium.
― scott seward, Thursday, 23 February 2012 23:17 (twelve years ago) link
this is known as the "Ministry Truthbomb"
― robbery by sudden snatching (DJP), Thursday, 23 February 2012 23:36 (twelve years ago) link
I feel like Psalm 69 is more the departure into undifferentiated, shitty industrial metal. Mind is still pretty good. Except the rap song.
― Will the waveform be unbroken? (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 24 February 2012 04:42 (twelve years ago) link
I like "Burning Inside" and the final two instrumentals and I can enjoy "Thieves" if I'm in the right mood. The rest of the album doesn't grab me at all.
― robbery by sudden snatching (DJP), Friday, 24 February 2012 05:07 (twelve years ago) link
gosh. did not expect to see AoC in the list.and so glad to see some love for Wiseblood .. i love that collab ..
― mark e, Friday, 24 February 2012 16:13 (twelve years ago) link
Wiseblood is awesome in every way, as is twitch, which i am listening to right now.
but guysi listened to filth pig and sorta pretended it was some unknown band and it wasnt totally awful for the first 2.5 songs and then it once again turned into an endless slog. i think my hate is diminished because knowing what i know now my expectations were v v low, vs when i bought it on release day and was pretty much slapped in the face with slow low droney
― Thu'um gang (jjjusten), Saturday, 25 February 2012 00:41 (twelve years ago) link
ok there are literally no bad tracks on twitch. holy shit man, i gotta spend more time w/old stuff i love. its like all the best parts of front 242 and EBM with really great vocals.
― Thu'um gang (jjjusten), Saturday, 25 February 2012 00:49 (twelve years ago) link