Ministry. S&D.

While there'http://blog.devstone.com/images/emote_ellipsis.gifouple bad tracks on Psalm 69, to me there's just some tracks that totally kill. Like Just One Fix, and Scarecrow along with Jesus Built my Hotrod, and NWO

You're lying through your teeth.

yeah NIN pretty much dead to me

You're lying through your teeth..

I strongly recommend the Year Zero remix album, if only for this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky5LNAL12mI

so watch yourself, and watch what you say, they'll all die

interesting thread - didnt we have a Filth Pig one?
I find Filth Pig has aged relatively well and could now be seen as proto-sludge. The Fall, Brick Windows, Lava and especially the Dylan cover are definitely keepers.

the dylan cover was great

haha like half the initial ilx search results for "filth pig" are me hating on it

it's a bag of sick masquerading as an album

the other half of the results are you saying "are you sure you didnt spell psalm 69 wrong" so

i cant trust dan on this subject if he hates psalm 69 and thinks the rot set in earlier

ha

not sure of y'all already know
there's a ministry documentary fresh out
it's like ministry but also with mad heroin and bullet-proof vests

http://www.fixtheministrymovie.com/

ok haha i am listening through the ministry catalog in order to make my wedding playlist (yeah i know) and guys. thieves is so so good.

also before i look like i am having some sort of rivethead prom for my wedding, this isnt making the cut but still

fuck

it makes me all teenagery

best use of a drill sample outside of maybe that slapshot album no one else in the world likes

Give in to your past.

i would say what i picked but i cant ruin dans special day

if you picked "Cannibal Song" I will cut you on your wedding day

Throw Dan in a celll-llll-llll...

I am listening to this again to see if I still hate it and so far all signs point towards YES

It's proto-Filth Pig, only even more static and boring. GOD was way better at this type of thing.

Our own xhuxk does some spelunking.

"Then, two years later, with barbarian-come-lately mastermind Al Jourgensen seemingly inspired by certain big and black swine-fornicating post-hardcore outfits from the onetime Hog Butcher of the World..."

nice piece. enjoyed the summaries and dot-connecting, both for stuff i know and love (killing joke! butthole surfers! voivod!) and artists that are less familiar to me.

kind of funny/odd that he hints at big black's (i think obvious) influence on ministry's transformation, but doesn't devote an entry to them. rolands need love, too.

Two points:

1) I wouldn't call Land and Mind "interchangeable" at all. The songs on the former are much more simplistic (and, yes, Big Black-esque); the latter features real live human drummers, blatant Killing Joke imitations and a general increase in structural complexity.

2) New Rigor Mortis album this year, recorded at Jourgensen's studio with the full original lineup! I am excited.

How is "Burning Inside" more structurally complex than "Stigmata"?

id say they arent interchangable, but mostly because of the shift from keys/samples/drum machine to geetars/drumming as musical focus

if it wasnt for land of rape and honey, my favorite ministry album would prob be Rabies by Skinny Puppy when I really think about it

oh duh wait never mind, twitch exists. lol @ me

^^^ unsurprisingly I think jjj is OTM

it's not like he was writing different types of songs, he was just using different types of instruments

still don't think executive slacks get enough cred/love as far as american industrorock pioneering goes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zHsJZTZo5o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AV7LcUM2RM

and they went jockrock by 1986. and started wearing mirror shades.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIaYZi4e5TY

wish i still owned all their albums. i think i had everything they ever put out. i better go buy them again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srmoSEs7GH0

btw listening to Mind... in its entirety for the first time in years and the idea that droning on six minutes instead of four is "a general increase in structural complexity" is incredibly funny

Love "Mind."

12" Singles > Twitch > LORAH > With Sympathy > Mind > everything else

http://www.davidbergman.net/blogpics/20080501_Ministry_sm_0145.jpg

my favorite ministry album would prob be Rabies by Skinny Puppy when I really think about it

Says more about the quality of Skinny Puppy's worst album etc

Never liked Ministry AT ALL but recently really really got into Twitch

ya Twitch is bad ass

Twitch was always my favorite.

And xxpp -- I obviously wanted to include Big Black, but couldn't, since they're not on Rhapsody (which I assume was Albini's decision -- his other bands aren't on there, either.)

i like twitch a bunch. and i liked the first album and singles too. and i think land of rape & honey is the last really cohesive/good slbum he did. but there is good stuff on the albums that came after.

chuck, isn't there a way to add this song to your column? 1986!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgTHmlVmP78

feel like half of wax trax could have been directly inspired by ex slacks. and the other half by the country of belgium.

i like twitch a bunch. and i liked the first album and singles too. and i think land of rape & honey is the last really cohesive/good slbum he did. but there is good stuff on the albums that came after.

this is known as the "Ministry Truthbomb"

I feel like Psalm 69 is more the departure into undifferentiated, shitty industrial metal. Mind is still pretty good. Except the rap song.

I like "Burning Inside" and the final two instrumentals and I can enjoy "Thieves" if I'm in the right mood. The rest of the album doesn't grab me at all.

gosh.
did not expect to see AoC in the list.
and so glad to see some love for Wiseblood .. i love that collab ..