slowdive: classic or dud?

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No, I don't think you're crazy, electricsound. There's a reason why I haven't played that since it came out.

Bimble, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 01:21 (fifteen years ago) link

pygmalion is super dull, as is the band that wasted rachels beautiful voice (mojave 3)!!

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 02:20 (fifteen years ago) link

I guess this means I should start listening to the Durutti Column.

Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 02:42 (fifteen years ago) link

you don't need a reason to listen to DC

electricsound, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 02:46 (fifteen years ago) link

I haven't been listening to SOUVLAKI very much since then. LOVELESS still sounds so crazy next to it.

dreamsonvhs, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 04:44 (fifteen years ago) link

pygmalion is super dull, as is the band that wasted rachels beautiful voice (mojave 3)!!

Pygmalion is the only Slowdive album I listen to these days. Go figure.

Spoon And Rafter I like much more now, but that first M3 album is still my #1 choice. I wish that Rachel's solo album had some of that mystery X factor in it.

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 06:14 (fifteen years ago) link

i have never been able to get into Pygmalion despite the love that it seems to get.

My choice for Mojave 3 is Out Of Tune but that also seems to be a unpopular choice.

loved Neil's first solo album (second ?) but hated Rachel's solo album.

Bee OK, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 06:28 (fifteen years ago) link

I hated Pygmalion when it came out, then fell in love with it before ultimately not really caring much. "Rutti" is pure classic though

baaderonixx, Wednesday, 13 August 2008 08:46 (fifteen years ago) link

Thinking about it, the time would be exactly right for a Slowdive one-off reunion.

baaderonixx, Thursday, 14 August 2008 10:57 (fifteen years ago) link

One thing I've found about Slowdive is that the time of day that you listen to their albums can strongly affect your perception of them. Here are the times you should listen to them:

"Just for a Day" - Listen to around dawn
"Souvlaki" - listen to at 1:00am
"Pygmalion" listen to during a hot, windless afternoon in a desert

If you listen at different times, they simply do not work, and can even sound horrible.

res, Thursday, 14 August 2008 14:14 (fifteen years ago) link

I can't see myself listening to "Just for a Day" over breakfast

baaderonixx, Thursday, 14 August 2008 14:18 (fifteen years ago) link

not for breakfast, that's too late. it's the darkness just before dawn.

res, Thursday, 14 August 2008 14:23 (fifteen years ago) link

brushfire records is actually jack johnson's label. he has surprisingly signed really good people so far (well, halstead and rogue wave, don't know who else).

akm, Thursday, 14 August 2008 15:03 (fifteen years ago) link

I think they were very good initially because they were unselfconscious. i.e. they were middle-class MBV fans making music for middle-class MBV fans. As soon as they became aware that they had to adopt some kind of stance, and deny what they fundamentally were, then they lost it.

PhilK, Friday, 15 August 2008 21:42 (fifteen years ago) link

2008 so needed a Pygmalion backlash.

Just got offed, Friday, 15 August 2008 21:45 (fifteen years ago) link

Never set your sights too high when it comes to shoegazer bands.

PhilK, Friday, 15 August 2008 21:49 (fifteen years ago) link

One thing I've found about Slowdive is that the time of day that you listen to their albums can strongly affect your perception of them. Here are the times you should listen to them:

"Just for a Day" - Listen to around dawn
"Souvlaki" - listen to at 1:00am
"Pygmalion" listen to during a hot, windless afternoon in a desert

If you listen at different times, they simply do not work, and can even sound horrible.

-- res, Thursday, August 14, 2008 9:14 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark Link

As much as I want to disagree with this, especially the not work and even sound horrible part, I would be lying if the best time I heard Just for a Day wasn't on a brisk spring morning at 6:30 AM, and Souvlaki at 1:30 AM in a dark basement, and, well I was in an actual desert on a hot, windless afternoon about 2 months ago, but I didn't think to bring Pygmalion.

Slowdive's albums are like ripening bananas. JFaD is the album equivalent of a banana with a slight greenish hue: firm, flavour's a bit bland and off, but otherwise solid and eatable. Good, but should have waited a day or two. Souvlaki is just perfection: perfect colour, texture, feel, taste - definitively ripe. Pygmalion tastes just fine despite what anyone says about the admittedly present brown spots (but they're not really that noticeable anyways), the heightened texture and softness of it aren't necessarily worse, but not as good as it was in it's prime. It's also excellent for baking.

mehlt, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 15:18 (fifteen years ago) link

Well we have a "worst metaphor of the day" by 11:30 am now!

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 15:29 (fifteen years ago) link

I'll support him, but only because he didn't shoot me down. :)

res, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 15:36 (fifteen years ago) link

As for mojave 3, Not entirely familiar with their whole body of work, but I think it's probably closer to mangos. (even worse by 11:39)

mehlt, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 15:39 (fifteen years ago) link

As much as I want to disagree with this, especially the not work and even sound horrible part,

That's sort of an exaggeration, but really, if you listen to "Souvlaki" when it's bright and sunny outside, it does not compute at all. It just works so much better in the dark.

res, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 19:31 (fifteen years ago) link

eight months pass...

Out of the blue at work Friday I got this urge to dig up their first couple of (non-album) 12" singles. I guess in the U.S. these were compiled nicely on Blue Day later, but I only had them on vinyl. So I'm having fun with this stuff now. I'd love it if anyone would say something about this band because I was thinking about them pretty intensely on Friday.

Disruptor of Morals (Bimble), Sunday, 26 April 2009 12:59 (fifteen years ago) link

Also a really interesting fact I learned was that the tracks on their first 12" were only part of their early demos. I guess this wouldn't be too extraordinary except that I had that blue flexi disc of a couple other tracks from that and they were extremely boring. "Beach Song" or whatever it was? I wonder if that flexi is worth anything now. I'll sell it if anyone wants it...

Disruptor of Morals (Bimble), Sunday, 26 April 2009 13:02 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_hh3smhvp8L0/S5DPI7TFeyI/AAAAAAAAADo/2Sx7pm2rl9s/s1600-h/slowdive2_Page_2.jpg

The Shining Breeze: The Slowdive Anthology (2 CD set) will be released on May 4, 2010 on Cherry Red Records.

Here’s the tracklist:

DISC ONE

Slowdive (Slowdive EP) Nov-90
Avalyn I (Slowdive EP) Nov-90
Morningrise (Morningrise EP) Feb-90
She Calls (Morningrise EP) Feb-90
Catch The Breeze (Holding Our Breath EP) Jun-91
Golden Hair (Holding Our Breath EP) Jun-91
Shine (Holding Our Breath EP) Jun-91
Spanish Air (Just For A Day) Sep-91
Erik's Song (Just For A Day) Sep-91
Waves (Just For A Day) Sep-91
Primal (Just For A Day) Sep-91
Alison (Outside Your Room EP) May-93
So Tired (Outside Your Room EP) May-93
Moussaka Chaos (Outside Your Room EP) May-93

DISC TWO

Souvlaki Space Station (Souvlaki) May-93
Machine Gun (Souvlaki) May-93
Sing (Souvlaki) May-93
Here She Comes (Souvlaki) May-93
Altogether (Souvlaki) May-93
Dagger (Souvlaki) May-93
Some Velvet Morning (Souvlakibonus disc) May-93
In Mind (5 EP) Nov-93
Good Day Sunshine (5 EP) Nov-93
Country Rain (5 EP) Nov-93
Rutti (Pygmalion) Feb-95
Miranda (Pygmalion) Feb-95
Trellisaze (Pygmalion) Feb-95
Cello (Pygmalion) Feb-95
Visions of La (Pygmalion) Feb-95
Blue Skied an' Clear (Pygmalion) Feb-95
All of Us (Pygmalion) Feb-95

Bee OK, Tuesday, 4 May 2010 00:58 (thirteen years ago) link

lets try the cover again:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_hh3smhvp8L0/S5DPI7TFeyI/AAAAAAAAADo/2Sx7pm2rl9s/s400/slowdive2_Page_2.jpg

Bee OK, Tuesday, 4 May 2010 01:01 (thirteen years ago) link

:D

silence is a rhythm too (Turangalila), Tuesday, 4 May 2010 01:01 (thirteen years ago) link

What, there was something wrong with the Catch the Breeze anthology?

Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 4 May 2010 01:42 (thirteen years ago) link

fair q

this one has a few more tracks and has removed a couple of others.. i hope it hasn't been "remastered"

naked on the vag (electricsound), Tuesday, 4 May 2010 01:45 (thirteen years ago) link

SONGS EXCLUSIVE TO THE SHINING BREEZE:

  • She Calls
  • Erik's Song
  • Waves
  • Primal
  • Moussaka Chaos
  • Altogether
  • Some Velvet Morning
  • In Mind
  • Good Day Sunshine
  • Miranda
  • Trellisaze
  • Cello
SONGS EXCLUSIVE TO CATCH THE BREEZE:
  • Albatross
  • When the Sun Hits
  • 40 Days
  • Melon Yellow
  • Blue Skied an' Clear
  • Crazy for You
  • J's Heaven
  • Vision of La

Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 4 May 2010 01:54 (thirteen years ago) link

Their 3 albums aren't all that hard to find, seems like it would have been better to complile non LP stuff onto a cd instead?

That cover sucks, too.

Tonight I Dine on Turtle Soup (EDB), Tuesday, 4 May 2010 02:00 (thirteen years ago) link

AWESOME SLOWDIVE SONGS THAT AREN'T ON EITHER ONE, PLUS ISN'T THERE SUPPOSED TO BE A TON OF UNRELEASED SLOWDIVE STUFF OUT THERE, LIKE SOME UNRELEASED ALBUM CALLED I SAW THE SUN AND A SOUND TRACK TO I AM THE ELEPHANT U R THE MOUSE AND ALL THESE PYGMALION DEMOS AND WHATNOT:
*- Avalyn II
*- Celia's Dream
*- Ballad of Sister Sue

Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 4 May 2010 02:12 (thirteen years ago) link

Those are some of their best songs. :(

silence is a rhythm too (Turangalila), Tuesday, 4 May 2010 02:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Cherry Red is great! I have their Moose and Brilliant Corners (band) reissues and they're wonderful.

Evan, Tuesday, 4 May 2010 03:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Given that I tracked down the discography a decade ago, I don't think I'll need this. But I'm deeply perplexed why any Slowdive anthology would omit "When the Sun Hits", which has been a favorite of mine, (as well as others here) for 17 years now...

nori dusted (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 4 May 2010 03:47 (thirteen years ago) link

When The Sun Hits is in my unwritten Top Songs Ever, yeah really.

kelpolaris, Tuesday, 4 May 2010 03:59 (thirteen years ago) link

don't they have a cover of "Sweet Child O'Mine too"?

Vanilla Douche (res), Tuesday, 4 May 2010 04:22 (thirteen years ago) link

don't see the point of this comp and teh cover makes it look like some cheapo Cleopatra collection.

Anyway, I already have all of this (thank you 'Blue Day') - what I really need is a cleaned up release of 'I Saw the Sun' (and a reunion tour)

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 4 May 2010 08:24 (thirteen years ago) link

they could have at least changed the name to something that wasn't so similar

Vanilla Douche (res), Tuesday, 4 May 2010 17:09 (thirteen years ago) link

couldn't they have just slapped all 3 of their albums + b-sides on 3 discs? sheesh

hobbes, Tuesday, 4 May 2010 20:17 (thirteen years ago) link

"the shining breeze" as a title is rather self-parodying

hobbes, Tuesday, 4 May 2010 20:20 (thirteen years ago) link

I find it hard to believe how quickly the 3 reissues of Slowdive's studio albums seem to have gone out of print. I bought them a year ago for £5 a piece now they're going for silly money.

AnotherDeadHero, Tuesday, 4 May 2010 21:47 (thirteen years ago) link

couldn't they have just slapped all 3 of their albums + b-sides on 3 discs? sheesh

― hobbes, Tuesday, May 4, 2010 3:17 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Well they could of, but that would have been a good idea.

Tonight I Dine on Turtle Soup (EDB), Wednesday, 5 May 2010 01:21 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...

when this gets revived I always hope to find an announcement of a reunion show...

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 13 January 2012 13:06 (twelve years ago) link

xp - poor Rachel - seems her worst nightmare came true for a lil while:
http://www.souvlakispacestation.com/archives/131

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 13 January 2012 13:11 (twelve years ago) link

"Slowdive are quite wonderful (better than MBV, no"

would have stopped right before the ", no" part

fauxmarc, Friday, 13 January 2012 16:31 (twelve years ago) link

two months pass...

i'm always so impressed by how good my old u.s. version of souvlaki sounds. the 90's version with bonus tracks "not available on import". its loud and its the good kind of loud. i'm cranking it now. no need to remaster this album ever. just copy this copy.

scott seward, Thursday, 5 April 2012 12:50 (twelve years ago) link

this from 2008 is so not on the money:

"While the vocals are similar, the sounds from the instruments on SOUVLAKI are so much lighter (a la the Cocteau Twins). This really sounds like something you could sleep to, or you could have it gently wake you up in the morning."

scott seward, Thursday, 5 April 2012 12:51 (twelve years ago) link

you really need to hear it loud. it's definitely not light when loud. it's a powerful record.

scott seward, Thursday, 5 April 2012 12:52 (twelve years ago) link

"just for a day" is an example of a record that needs to be played loud. there's enormous atmosphere to the songs, but no density. play it loud and you can lose yourself in it, otherwise it plays through without you noticing a thing.

charlie h, Thursday, 5 April 2012 13:33 (twelve years ago) link


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