Homosexuality and Hip-Hop : The Gay Rapper Thread

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I think the point you are missing is that sexuality can be fluid and isn't necessarily something that's set in granite?

banjee trillness (The Reverend), Friday, 8 April 2011 19:21 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost I think he's arguing people who use the "fluidity" defense only when they're caught getting head from a MOTSS in a men's bathroom.

scissorlocks and the three bears (Eric H.), Friday, 8 April 2011 19:23 (thirteen years ago) link

I think the point you are missing is that sexuality can be fluid and isn't necessarily something that's set in granite?

Western society hasn't fully accepted this mindset. If we did, then Mister Cee having sex with a transsexual wouldn't be seen as a big deal.

lilsoulbrother, Friday, 8 April 2011 19:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Eric otm - it's really about privilege.

sarahel, Friday, 8 April 2011 19:25 (thirteen years ago) link

now its a tranny?

billy childish gambino (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 8 April 2011 19:25 (thirteen years ago) link

i thought it was just a guy?

billy childish gambino (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 8 April 2011 19:26 (thirteen years ago) link

it was always a tranny

J0rdan S., Friday, 8 April 2011 19:26 (thirteen years ago) link

which is why i asked if it was possible that mr cee didn't know it was a dude (highly unlikely i know)

J0rdan S., Friday, 8 April 2011 19:27 (thirteen years ago) link

The person Mister Cee was with is a male who dresses like/and maybe identifies with women. Hence he's transsexual.

Taken from Oxford Dictionary:

transsexual |tran(s)ˈsek sh oōəl|
noun
a person born with the physical characteristics of one sex who emotionally and psychologically feels that they belong to the opposite sex.

lilsoulbrother, Friday, 8 April 2011 19:27 (thirteen years ago) link

transvestite not transexual surely

popular gay automobile (a hoy hoy), Friday, 8 April 2011 19:28 (thirteen years ago) link

probably not tho

So Wendy Williams is back at it again airing out the wrong folks. First, Method Man and his wifey. Now--DJ Mister Cee from Hot 97. The other day, Wendy talked about a certain DJ, who she tried to keep nameless but made hella obvious, who participates in some "tranny activities". No, Wendy wasn't talking about activities with herself, but with some actual trannies

http://blogs.sohh.com/ya_heard/2007/01/guess_whos_maki.html

J0rdan S., Friday, 8 April 2011 19:28 (thirteen years ago) link

did ethan write that headline?

billy childish gambino (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 8 April 2011 19:29 (thirteen years ago) link

transvestite not transexual surely

I always thought transsexual was the umbrella term for all the sexual orientation trans- terms.

lilsoulbrother, Friday, 8 April 2011 19:31 (thirteen years ago) link

whoa 2007

goole, Friday, 8 April 2011 19:33 (thirteen years ago) link

transvestite not transexual surely

why surely

fauxmarc, Friday, 8 April 2011 19:38 (thirteen years ago) link

because one means that you dress as the other sex while the other means you have your bits chopped off.

popular gay automobile (a hoy hoy), Friday, 8 April 2011 19:42 (thirteen years ago) link

oh is that what those mean?

lol, i can't even get mad i know what to expect on here when these kinds of issues are broached at this point.

fauxmarc, Friday, 8 April 2011 19:46 (thirteen years ago) link

because one means that you dress as the other sex while the other means you have your bits chopped off.

― popular gay automobile (a hoy hoy), Friday, April 8, 2011 2:42 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i don't think that transexual nec means you've had an operating iirc

Bleeqwot the Chef (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 8 April 2011 19:51 (thirteen years ago) link

thread needs lj

Oink Administrator (gr8080), Friday, 8 April 2011 19:55 (thirteen years ago) link

hahaha

J0rdan S., Friday, 8 April 2011 20:02 (thirteen years ago) link

slept on post

― buzza, Thursday, April 7, 2011 6:14 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

if you google alicia leafgreen, the first result is myspace.com/whitelesbianrapper

cum dude (Princess TamTam), Friday, 8 April 2011 20:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Alicia Leafy Green Dragon Indigo Girl,

buzza, Friday, 8 April 2011 20:45 (thirteen years ago) link

because one means that you dress as the other sex while the other means you have your bits chopped off.

Nope

FUN FUN FUN FUN (gbx), Friday, 8 April 2011 21:23 (thirteen years ago) link

+ your bits get inverted, really

J0rdan S., Friday, 8 April 2011 21:28 (thirteen years ago) link

there was some discussion on the kids in the hall thread about the distinction in the way KITH wore women's clothes and the way Monty Python did, but I don't know if that neatly divides along the transvestite/transgender axis

Philip Nunez, Friday, 8 April 2011 21:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Aw man ilx ate my explanatory post.

FUN FUN FUN FUN (gbx), Friday, 8 April 2011 21:30 (thirteen years ago) link

i've seen the term "non-op transsexual"

free karl kani (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 8 April 2011 21:34 (thirteen years ago) link

anyway quite obviously you can identify as a transsexual before you actually go through the operation -- in fact my reading of the situation is that it's a completely MANDATORY part of the deal, seeing as no surgeon will do the operation without the person having lived as a transsexual for years prior

J0rdan S., Friday, 8 April 2011 21:36 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah transvestites are typically straight men who either get off or just think it's fun to dress up as ladies. Literally just wearing the vestments of the other.

Drag queens are a diff thing entirely, as are transgendered ppl

FUN FUN FUN FUN (gbx), Friday, 8 April 2011 21:37 (thirteen years ago) link

anyway quite obviously you can identify as a transsexual before you actually go through the operation -- in fact my reading of the situation is that it's a completely MANDATORY part of the deal, seeing as no surgeon will do the operation without the person having lived as a transsexual for years prior

As far as I know: yup.

FUN FUN FUN FUN (gbx), Friday, 8 April 2011 21:38 (thirteen years ago) link

ok sorry for not being a dictionary.

popular gay automobile (a hoy hoy), Friday, 8 April 2011 21:44 (thirteen years ago) link

you're a pre-op dictionary

free karl kani (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 8 April 2011 21:51 (thirteen years ago) link

true dat.

popular gay automobile (a hoy hoy), Friday, 8 April 2011 22:36 (thirteen years ago) link

So Wendy Williams is back at it again airing out the wrong folks. First, Method Man and his wifey. Now--DJ Mister Cee from Hot 97. The other day, Wendy talked about a certain DJ, who she tried to keep nameless but made hella obvious, who participates in some "tranny activities". No, Wendy wasn't talking about activities with herself, but with some actual trannies

http://blogs.sohh.com/ya_heard/2007/01/guess_whos_maki.html

― J0rdan S., Friday, April 8, 2011 3:28 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

whats this abt meth?

ice cr?m, Friday, 8 April 2011 23:11 (thirteen years ago) link

i think it's referring to this, from a few years ago:

In 2006 Method Man had a highly personal and highly publicized conflict with TV talk show host Wendy Williams on The Breakdown, an internet show on ONLOQ.com. Williams talked on air about Method Man's wife having cancer, which was something he had wanted to keep private and even her own family members had not yet known about. He said that people who lived next door to him didn't even know, but Williams had dug it up and made it public over the radio.[13]

Williams also reported rumors that Method Man had even been having an affair with his wife's doctor. Method Man first heard of this while in recording sessions in Los Angeles.
“ She said me and [the doctor] was fucking. What kind of shit is that, man? You don't do that to nobody. I was ready. I was so mad, I was crying right there and I'm like, "I'm gonna kill some fucking body" but my [Wu-Tang] friends kept me in L.A.[14]

Sittin' Fran (donna rouge), Friday, 8 April 2011 23:15 (thirteen years ago) link

woah method is ice cold in this....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du1UViOs4Hk

free karl kani (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 8 April 2011 23:19 (thirteen years ago) link

Yo Majesty are both lesbians. I guess they don't have to deal with issues of masculinity but instead a host of other issues of sexism instead. They seem to have handled it pretty well, but have gone off the radar (hopefully working on more stuff).

Club song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pfQT7etnKg

"Lesbian" song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbbvugSXUvc

The Sunspots In Your Eyes Are Actually Cataracts, Mr. Rudich (AWALL), Monday, 11 April 2011 08:16 (thirteen years ago) link

holy shit "club action" is awesome. need a 6min edit in high bitrate mp3 asap please

Oink Administrator (gr8080), Monday, 11 April 2011 08:45 (thirteen years ago) link

yo majesty put on a great live show - this remix is my favourite thing they've done though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZaZwlB4i9M

lex pretend, Monday, 11 April 2011 08:49 (thirteen years ago) link

When you find it, send it to me too. Club Action is so ridiculously catchy.
Just found out Yo Majesty split up (RIP) and Shunda released a solo album.

Anyways,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Homo_hop

The Sunspots In Your Eyes Are Actually Cataracts, Mr. Rudich (AWALL), Monday, 11 April 2011 09:19 (thirteen years ago) link

just found the Club Action single and it has a remix by dude from arctic monkeys on it?

Oink Administrator (gr8080), Monday, 11 April 2011 09:26 (thirteen years ago) link

transvestite not transexual surely

I always thought transsexual was the umbrella term for all the sexual orientation trans- terms.

The word you are looking for is "transgender", which includes all sorts of people who identify themselves across gender/sex lines. "Transsexual" usually implies a person who feels s/he's living in a body of the "wrong" gender, and therefore needs to go through some kind of physiological change (hormone treatment and/or corrective surgery), even if s/he hasn't done so yet. So being transsexual is strongly connected to both the biological body and the psyche, whereas some other forms of transgenderism may not involve wanting to change your biological body. For example, you may be totally content to just adopt the clothes, styles and physical mannerisms of another gender without feeling the need to correct your physiology.

Tuomas, Monday, 11 April 2011 11:10 (thirteen years ago) link

Just discovered these local girls who are a couple and have weirdly a lot of live footage on youtube but seemingly no recorded songs on youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxdrlJJlnf4

banjee trillness (The Reverend), Monday, 11 April 2011 14:59 (thirteen years ago) link

re: deep dickollective
randomly saw a forgettable movie with timm'm once when he was teaching in dc

just found the Club Action single and it has a remix by dude from arctic monkeys on it?

not surprising, they were pretty regular in the pitchfork-y indie dance music circles

i was pretty partial to scattermish's timid fuckup edit in 2007
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ocp_OORAGKc

fauxmarc, Monday, 11 April 2011 15:12 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost, they're on sub pop now iirc

Lex Pretnd (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 11 April 2011 15:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Doesn't really surprise me. I know they've done shows with Shabazz Palaces, who are also on Sub Pop.

Timm'm had some interesting stuff in this book:

http://viz.cwrl.utexas.edu/files/SweetTea.jpg

banjee trillness (The Reverend), Monday, 11 April 2011 18:53 (thirteen years ago) link

prodigy

One of the biggest stories since you have been out is the whole Mister Cee situation. How do you feel about that?
I mean, I really don’t know exactly what happened. I ain’t look into it, or try to investigate all the facts. I’m just hearing what people saying, and radio, so I really don’t have that much of an opinion about it. But to each his own man, if it’s really like that.

It sounds crazy to me, like Cee is my nigga. We fuck with Mister Cee. That nigga loves Mobb Deep and always shows us love, and plays our music all the time on the radio. He’s one of the only ones that does that. It’s few of them, and he’s one of the main ones. So regardless of what, that nigga shows us love, and we’re going to show him love back.

He’s always going to get new music from us. That nigga call, we always going to pick up like “What’s up? You good?” If he wants to do a party, whatever. Whatever Mister Cee wants to do, we fuck with Mister Cee. That’s what it is.

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 20 April 2011 10:23 (thirteen years ago) link

lmao.

popular gay automobile (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 11:00 (thirteen years ago) link

lol but also fucking good for him

Unusatralian (sic), Wednesday, 20 April 2011 12:48 (thirteen years ago) link


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