Homosexuality and Hip-Hop : The Gay Rapper Thread

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cue the violins

Apathy can be as worse than down outright hate.

lilsoulbrother, Friday, 8 April 2011 18:52 (thirteen years ago) link

It's okay for women to be bisexual because that means a straight guy can fantasize about two women getting it on. But men have to be either gay or straight - no ambiguity at all.

You forget that men, in general, have no ambiguity at all.

scissorlocks and the three bears (Eric H.), Friday, 8 April 2011 18:53 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't understand what you mean. Are you saying, every man in the world is straightforward in their sexuality or opinions? They have no complexity whatsoever?

lilsoulbrother, Friday, 8 April 2011 19:00 (thirteen years ago) link

You can be attracted to people of the same sex and engage in same-sex acts, but I don't think that makes you gay unless it constitutes the full extent of your sexual preferences.

(Some of us don't consider ourselves straight OR gay.)

― jaymc, Friday, April 8, 2011 11:23 AM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

People who don't identify with any sexual preference is all well and good. However, they are only seen as a problem if they publicly enforce the heterosexual mindset of society in order to fit in.

― lilsoulbrother, Friday, April 8, 2011 11:31 AM Bookmark

You're kind of proving lex's point here.

banjee trillness (The Reverend), Friday, 8 April 2011 19:04 (thirteen years ago) link

pretty cool how a guy who confesses that he doesn't have many straight friends is fronting like he's an expert on straight dudes in the same thread

Oink Administrator (gr8080), Friday, 8 April 2011 19:08 (thirteen years ago) link

everyone post how many irl friends you have itt

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 8 April 2011 19:09 (thirteen years ago) link

24

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Friday, 8 April 2011 19:10 (thirteen years ago) link

don't ask me if dead friends count because I don't know right now, it is a question I've been thinking of a lot lately because a couple people I know have died

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 8 April 2011 19:10 (thirteen years ago) link

just include them for now

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 8 April 2011 19:11 (thirteen years ago) link

dead people are not irl

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Friday, 8 April 2011 19:11 (thirteen years ago) link

well see, the thing is I had a friend who committed suicide recently and sometimes when I walk around I think about him, and I wonder if the thoughts that I have about him really should even exist anymore, because he doesn't really exist anymore irl, but does he?, and thinking about him, while walking around, makes me sad, but sometimes it doesn't, so should I even think about people at all, I've been thinking about it recently

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 8 April 2011 19:14 (thirteen years ago) link

also he would only add one to the people I know total so its not that big of a deal in that respect but it may be a big deal in other respects

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 8 April 2011 19:15 (thirteen years ago) link

~~ghosts~~

ban drake (the rapper) (max), Friday, 8 April 2011 19:15 (thirteen years ago) link

you should think about him

in my world of loose geirs (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 8 April 2011 19:16 (thirteen years ago) link

whatever else he was, he was always an idea in our head, and that idea is still there, it is still "real" in a literal sense

in my world of loose geirs (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 8 April 2011 19:16 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah that's pretty much the direction I'm gravitating towards, also, it's like, if I think about him, then I think about him, nothing more nothing less, but then again, its still kind of confusing

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 8 April 2011 19:19 (thirteen years ago) link

pretty cool how a guy who confesses that he doesn't have many straight friends is fronting like he's an expert on straight dudes in the same thread

Maybe I should have clarified that I don't have that many close straight male friends, but the ones I do have we discuss these issues fairly regularly. So I do have interactions with people from different orientations.

Also, what is wrong with talking about the unbalance, complex issue of how western World sees sexuality. That doesn't mean I'm fronting like an expert. This shit has been going on for awhile.

lilsoulbrother, Friday, 8 April 2011 19:19 (thirteen years ago) link

I think the point you are missing is that sexuality can be fluid and isn't necessarily something that's set in granite?

banjee trillness (The Reverend), Friday, 8 April 2011 19:21 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost I think he's arguing people who use the "fluidity" defense only when they're caught getting head from a MOTSS in a men's bathroom.

scissorlocks and the three bears (Eric H.), Friday, 8 April 2011 19:23 (thirteen years ago) link

I think the point you are missing is that sexuality can be fluid and isn't necessarily something that's set in granite?

Western society hasn't fully accepted this mindset. If we did, then Mister Cee having sex with a transsexual wouldn't be seen as a big deal.

lilsoulbrother, Friday, 8 April 2011 19:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Eric otm - it's really about privilege.

sarahel, Friday, 8 April 2011 19:25 (thirteen years ago) link

now its a tranny?

billy childish gambino (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 8 April 2011 19:25 (thirteen years ago) link

i thought it was just a guy?

billy childish gambino (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 8 April 2011 19:26 (thirteen years ago) link

it was always a tranny

J0rdan S., Friday, 8 April 2011 19:26 (thirteen years ago) link

which is why i asked if it was possible that mr cee didn't know it was a dude (highly unlikely i know)

J0rdan S., Friday, 8 April 2011 19:27 (thirteen years ago) link

The person Mister Cee was with is a male who dresses like/and maybe identifies with women. Hence he's transsexual.

Taken from Oxford Dictionary:

transsexual |tran(s)ˈsek sh oōəl|
noun
a person born with the physical characteristics of one sex who emotionally and psychologically feels that they belong to the opposite sex.

lilsoulbrother, Friday, 8 April 2011 19:27 (thirteen years ago) link

transvestite not transexual surely

popular gay automobile (a hoy hoy), Friday, 8 April 2011 19:28 (thirteen years ago) link

probably not tho

So Wendy Williams is back at it again airing out the wrong folks. First, Method Man and his wifey. Now--DJ Mister Cee from Hot 97. The other day, Wendy talked about a certain DJ, who she tried to keep nameless but made hella obvious, who participates in some "tranny activities". No, Wendy wasn't talking about activities with herself, but with some actual trannies

http://blogs.sohh.com/ya_heard/2007/01/guess_whos_maki.html

J0rdan S., Friday, 8 April 2011 19:28 (thirteen years ago) link

did ethan write that headline?

billy childish gambino (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 8 April 2011 19:29 (thirteen years ago) link

transvestite not transexual surely

I always thought transsexual was the umbrella term for all the sexual orientation trans- terms.

lilsoulbrother, Friday, 8 April 2011 19:31 (thirteen years ago) link

whoa 2007

goole, Friday, 8 April 2011 19:33 (thirteen years ago) link

transvestite not transexual surely

why surely

fauxmarc, Friday, 8 April 2011 19:38 (thirteen years ago) link

because one means that you dress as the other sex while the other means you have your bits chopped off.

popular gay automobile (a hoy hoy), Friday, 8 April 2011 19:42 (thirteen years ago) link

oh is that what those mean?

lol, i can't even get mad i know what to expect on here when these kinds of issues are broached at this point.

fauxmarc, Friday, 8 April 2011 19:46 (thirteen years ago) link

because one means that you dress as the other sex while the other means you have your bits chopped off.

― popular gay automobile (a hoy hoy), Friday, April 8, 2011 2:42 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i don't think that transexual nec means you've had an operating iirc

Bleeqwot the Chef (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 8 April 2011 19:51 (thirteen years ago) link

thread needs lj

Oink Administrator (gr8080), Friday, 8 April 2011 19:55 (thirteen years ago) link

hahaha

J0rdan S., Friday, 8 April 2011 20:02 (thirteen years ago) link

slept on post

― buzza, Thursday, April 7, 2011 6:14 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

if you google alicia leafgreen, the first result is myspace.com/whitelesbianrapper

cum dude (Princess TamTam), Friday, 8 April 2011 20:40 (thirteen years ago) link

Alicia Leafy Green Dragon Indigo Girl,

buzza, Friday, 8 April 2011 20:45 (thirteen years ago) link

because one means that you dress as the other sex while the other means you have your bits chopped off.

Nope

FUN FUN FUN FUN (gbx), Friday, 8 April 2011 21:23 (thirteen years ago) link

+ your bits get inverted, really

J0rdan S., Friday, 8 April 2011 21:28 (thirteen years ago) link

there was some discussion on the kids in the hall thread about the distinction in the way KITH wore women's clothes and the way Monty Python did, but I don't know if that neatly divides along the transvestite/transgender axis

Philip Nunez, Friday, 8 April 2011 21:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Aw man ilx ate my explanatory post.

FUN FUN FUN FUN (gbx), Friday, 8 April 2011 21:30 (thirteen years ago) link

i've seen the term "non-op transsexual"

free karl kani (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 8 April 2011 21:34 (thirteen years ago) link

anyway quite obviously you can identify as a transsexual before you actually go through the operation -- in fact my reading of the situation is that it's a completely MANDATORY part of the deal, seeing as no surgeon will do the operation without the person having lived as a transsexual for years prior

J0rdan S., Friday, 8 April 2011 21:36 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah transvestites are typically straight men who either get off or just think it's fun to dress up as ladies. Literally just wearing the vestments of the other.

Drag queens are a diff thing entirely, as are transgendered ppl

FUN FUN FUN FUN (gbx), Friday, 8 April 2011 21:37 (thirteen years ago) link

anyway quite obviously you can identify as a transsexual before you actually go through the operation -- in fact my reading of the situation is that it's a completely MANDATORY part of the deal, seeing as no surgeon will do the operation without the person having lived as a transsexual for years prior

As far as I know: yup.

FUN FUN FUN FUN (gbx), Friday, 8 April 2011 21:38 (thirteen years ago) link

ok sorry for not being a dictionary.

popular gay automobile (a hoy hoy), Friday, 8 April 2011 21:44 (thirteen years ago) link


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