Homosexuality and Hip-Hop : The Gay Rapper Thread

I think you meant to say "probably excellent"

this board has a long sad history of jonophobia, but at this point I don't know if there's anything any one of us can do about it, it's a pretty institutionalized mentality

free mr. cee

this board has a long sad history of jonophobia, but at this point I don't know if there's anything any one of us can do about it, it's a pretty institutionalized mentality

WTF dude?

JOKES BRUV

i mean jeez

"We're going to make fun of you for taking things too personally, but then we're going to keep addressing you specifically by name."

jon if you make an authoritative claim that a group of people has an ingrained cultural attitude and then say, "don't ask me to back up what i'm saying at all" and then act all victimized when others take offense at your generalization...i mean.

Okay, I apologize again for the way it was framed.

I would like to know when I pissed in some dude's cornflakes though, he really seems to have it in for me.

it was such a mild zing, clearly kindly intentioned!

jon, I like you: go get a drink.

that's the weirdest drinking game ever, Alfred

what if I throw in karaoke?

well then it just becomes awesome

drinking + karaoke = guaranteed good time

Drinkoke

Karakinky.

why is that lil b song pertinent?

lil b plays with homophobia in hip hop, especially with his (fake) group called bitch mob, who put out a new song today

other than the fact the thing is called bitch mob, it was just all about getting blowjobs from women....i guess outside of calling himself a bitch sometimes i don't really see how he's different from like any other rapper

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fl6Mf4yTm7A

I told a friend a few months ago to perform an experiment: imagine listening to songs, 97% of which are not written by, for, or to you.

I get what you're driving at, but I don't listen to music to "relate" or "identify" with the performers or subjects.

huh lil b wrote a song based on frogbs' college radio show

lol

I get what you're driving at, but I don't listen to music to "relate" or "identify" with the performers or subjects.

My point, though, is I settled years earlier on your approach because of what I noticed.

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yeah rev but that song title is a little bit different thing imo than the one j0rdy posted

i guess outside of calling himself a bitch sometimes i don't really see how he's different from like any other rapper

thank you j0rdan and horseshoe for pointing out that i was not attacking jon and just joking around. don't know how many times i have to tell dude on his threads about everybody hating him that i don't hate him but eh go fig.

I know about as little about being gay as I do about being hip-hip. Sorry guys, I'll drop it.

didnt someone already do some kind of statistical analysis that suggested that homophobia tied more closely to level of religion than race in any meaningful way

i mean i know you cant tell who was raised christian by looking at a twitpic the way you can tell if a twitterer is black but
also black ppl are on twitter to a larger degree than white ppl iirc
and hip hop regardless of race tends to attract ppl into a hypermasculine mode of thinking
and of course homophobic white ppl seem to have a tendency to make it about their oppression, i.e. the pc police dont let me say x any more, rather than saying things outright

i dunno there are lots of things w/ jon's post that seem off to me, in addition to what djp already listed

to be honest jon i think what went thru a lot of ppl's heads when you brought it up that way was, 'wtf didnt we already do this' because back when prop whatever it was in cali passed this exact same discussion shot around every message board & blog discussion remotely related to politics, so bringing it up again wasnt just wrong on its face, but old news too

also when i did a #mrcee search i wasn't bombarded w/ an onslaught of homophobia, and it wasn't virulent homophobia either that you see from, for instance, religious white ppl -- i even saw a few people too that said "the point is not that it was a dude"

to be honest jon i think what went thru a lot of ppl's heads when you brought it up that way was, 'wtf didnt we already do this' because back when prop whatever it was in cali passed this exact same discussion shot around every message board & blog discussion remotely related to politics, so bringing it up again wasnt just wrong on its face, but old news too

― timbo slice (D-40), Thursday, April 7, 2011 9:25 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

this was mainly my issue

basically american culture is homophobic period & trying to dice it up into little groups really doesnt seem pertinent

fwiw it's not like running a Mr. Cee search on any website is going to bring up NICE remarks right now -- only mean/derisive ones with the occasional defense. it's not like he proudly came out of the closet and people, he got busted for something that's at least mildly embarrassing regardless of your feelings on homosexuality.

should've read "it's not like he proudly came out of the closet and people are attacking him for it"

basically american culture everyone is homophobic period & trying to dice it up into little groups really doesnt seem pertinent

Deap Dick Collective out of Oakland,CA

...and they rock...

― S, Friday, November 1, 2002 10:56 AM (8 years ago)

they were awesome

p sure that if jeff gordon* (WHITE PEOPLE) got busted getting blowed by a dude the "twitterscape" (<---suicidable word right there) would be just as bleak.

*is he even a thing anymore? not really up on this

gbx otm

gbx, gordon is still competitive, but the dude at work that's into it says he's maybe slipped a bit and i guess some NASCAR rule changes in recent years about how they keep score weren't favorable to gordon

well

you know

i kinda regret even posting anything at all

so sorry

i was just bummed out for mr. cee

this must be kinda difficult to go through with

twitter and every thing now

i feel slightly bad for mr. cee, will feel differently depending on how he handles this

gbx, gordon is still competitive, but the dude at work that's into it says he's maybe slipped a bit and i guess some NASCAR rule changes in recent years about how they keep score weren't favorable to gordon

boggling at the idea of "rules"

i mean obv there are rules, but like is there inside nascar nerdery going on where ppl are thinking "well gordon's a classic driver, he stays near the front and attacks late in the game when he sees an advantage. unfortunately, he's not great in the heat, and when it's 90+degrees outside hooboy he'll just slide to the back like a dew drop down a corn husk"

for real: "scoring?" wtf is up w/nascar

they tried to make it more like a 'normal' sport in an effort to attract more fans

i.e. they instituted a playoff-esque format

yeah i guess it's basically like you get points for a season, based on how you place in races....i think now they've skewed it so you get a lot more points for winning races as opposed to, say, placing 5th or something...so my impression was gordon was more of a steady-eddie type that would consistently place in the top 10 of races but not necessarily win a lot of races like jimmy johnson, so he was "penalized" by how they changed the scoring...

then obv the chase for the cup, which is kinda like the "playoffs" jordan is talking about....

i dunno, a couple people at work are really into it and so they tell me about it and i guess lots of hardcore nascar fans feel like nascar "sold out" or something

the biggest female rapper in like 10 years is openly bisexual

ok, who?

nicki

haw

basically nascar sounds like european football. which is kind of good, now that i think about it.

oh also european football is just gay as hell

actually nascar sounds like pro tour cycling

yeah i wouldn't doubt if it's pretty similar to any racing type league

basically, i've learned that serious nascar fans are total nerds about all the minutia of the sport