Homosexuality and Hip-Hop : The Gay Rapper Thread

what does a "long history of homophobia" even look like

America, basically

ya I was gonna say
seems like it would be basically indistinguishable from a "long history of living in a nation where homosexuality is criminalized/otherwise not tolerated"

Alright, I was trying to bring up what I thought was a valid discussion in relation to the Mister Cee incident and this topic in general, apparently I framed it horribly. I'm sorry.

we're all sorry :)

I am a White Lesbian Rapper. I just Finished my first song Touche'D. I am working with Matt Dr. Fink Formerly of Prince. He is helping me and we are writting beats together. I however maintain my own spacing and aranging or my lyrics. My second song is going to be callled Fine Like Wine.

Touche'D talk about a girl I was once close to and how shes acting shady on me now "So When are you gonna come and see me HU? when youve filled you girlfriend quota? Travled all over the world but Minnesota? Dont matter if I say pop or soda... Dont matter if you say Hella or really cuz years from now Im still gonna be me. Only differance is you might not see me cuz when you cant have me sure wanna be with me... no wanna be seen with me? better look in the mirror before you turn Touche'D ... Touche' Lady , take a hit flip the script and become slim shady.. dont matter if your dating a B**ch or a ladie cuz when you wanna ask me out im gonna say maybe"

Sone of the topics I talk about on my upcoming CD White Lesbian Rapper will be Lesbian topics such as: Hurt by ex gfs, a song about Jeeps (popular gay automobile), lesbian trends such as Jocks and abercrombie and Fitch jeans, with girls in pony tails, being broke, kinky cop sex, complation of naming of old school song titles talking about all the songs that remind you of one person from back in the day.

You may email me at Crookedluv✧✧✧@a✧✧.c✧✧ for more info

― Alicia Leafgreen, Wednesday, April 19, 2006 1:51 PM (4 years ago)

slept on post

I told a friend a few months ago to perform an experiment: imagine listening to songs, 97% of which are not written by, for, or to you.

"a song about Jeeps (popular gay automobile)"
lmfao

I'm just bummed because I truly meant this from a good place and I'm catching a lot of flak, when other posters have spouted a lot of intentionally hateful stuff without this much abuse for it.

eh, I dunno what to tell you — when life gives you lemons... don't make it about race

this is probably pertinent

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lJoabhPLDU

I think you meant to say "probably excellent"

this board has a long sad history of jonophobia, but at this point I don't know if there's anything any one of us can do about it, it's a pretty institutionalized mentality

free mr. cee

this board has a long sad history of jonophobia, but at this point I don't know if there's anything any one of us can do about it, it's a pretty institutionalized mentality

WTF dude?

JOKES BRUV

i mean jeez

"We're going to make fun of you for taking things too personally, but then we're going to keep addressing you specifically by name."

jon if you make an authoritative claim that a group of people has an ingrained cultural attitude and then say, "don't ask me to back up what i'm saying at all" and then act all victimized when others take offense at your generalization...i mean.

Okay, I apologize again for the way it was framed.

I would like to know when I pissed in some dude's cornflakes though, he really seems to have it in for me.

it was such a mild zing, clearly kindly intentioned!

jon, I like you: go get a drink.

that's the weirdest drinking game ever, Alfred

what if I throw in karaoke?

well then it just becomes awesome

drinking + karaoke = guaranteed good time

Drinkoke

Karakinky.

why is that lil b song pertinent?

lil b plays with homophobia in hip hop, especially with his (fake) group called bitch mob, who put out a new song today

other than the fact the thing is called bitch mob, it was just all about getting blowjobs from women....i guess outside of calling himself a bitch sometimes i don't really see how he's different from like any other rapper

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fl6Mf4yTm7A

I told a friend a few months ago to perform an experiment: imagine listening to songs, 97% of which are not written by, for, or to you.

I get what you're driving at, but I don't listen to music to "relate" or "identify" with the performers or subjects.

huh lil b wrote a song based on frogbs' college radio show

lol

I get what you're driving at, but I don't listen to music to "relate" or "identify" with the performers or subjects.

My point, though, is I settled years earlier on your approach because of what I noticed.

xpost

yeah rev but that song title is a little bit different thing imo than the one j0rdy posted

i guess outside of calling himself a bitch sometimes i don't really see how he's different from like any other rapper

thank you j0rdan and horseshoe for pointing out that i was not attacking jon and just joking around. don't know how many times i have to tell dude on his threads about everybody hating him that i don't hate him but eh go fig.

I know about as little about being gay as I do about being hip-hip. Sorry guys, I'll drop it.

didnt someone already do some kind of statistical analysis that suggested that homophobia tied more closely to level of religion than race in any meaningful way

i mean i know you cant tell who was raised christian by looking at a twitpic the way you can tell if a twitterer is black but
also black ppl are on twitter to a larger degree than white ppl iirc
and hip hop regardless of race tends to attract ppl into a hypermasculine mode of thinking
and of course homophobic white ppl seem to have a tendency to make it about their oppression, i.e. the pc police dont let me say x any more, rather than saying things outright

i dunno there are lots of things w/ jon's post that seem off to me, in addition to what djp already listed

to be honest jon i think what went thru a lot of ppl's heads when you brought it up that way was, 'wtf didnt we already do this' because back when prop whatever it was in cali passed this exact same discussion shot around every message board & blog discussion remotely related to politics, so bringing it up again wasnt just wrong on its face, but old news too

also when i did a #mrcee search i wasn't bombarded w/ an onslaught of homophobia, and it wasn't virulent homophobia either that you see from, for instance, religious white ppl -- i even saw a few people too that said "the point is not that it was a dude"

to be honest jon i think what went thru a lot of ppl's heads when you brought it up that way was, 'wtf didnt we already do this' because back when prop whatever it was in cali passed this exact same discussion shot around every message board & blog discussion remotely related to politics, so bringing it up again wasnt just wrong on its face, but old news too

― timbo slice (D-40), Thursday, April 7, 2011 9:25 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

this was mainly my issue

basically american culture is homophobic period & trying to dice it up into little groups really doesnt seem pertinent

fwiw it's not like running a Mr. Cee search on any website is going to bring up NICE remarks right now -- only mean/derisive ones with the occasional defense. it's not like he proudly came out of the closet and people, he got busted for something that's at least mildly embarrassing regardless of your feelings on homosexuality.

should've read "it's not like he proudly came out of the closet and people are attacking him for it"

basically american culture everyone is homophobic period & trying to dice it up into little groups really doesnt seem pertinent

Deap Dick Collective out of Oakland,CA

...and they rock...

― S, Friday, November 1, 2002 10:56 AM (8 years ago)

they were awesome

p sure that if jeff gordon* (WHITE PEOPLE) got busted getting blowed by a dude the "twitterscape" (<---suicidable word right there) would be just as bleak.

*is he even a thing anymore? not really up on this