Homosexuality and Hip-Hop : The Gay Rapper Thread

Sorry guys, I'll drop it

This is all you need to have said.

WTF. Its a legitimate issue that ties in directly to what this thread is all about!

smh

Yeah, without trying to turn this into a thing about race you are probably right.

You guys are so fucking infuriating sometimes.

you are trying really hard not to turn this into a thing about race! and i appreciate that

without trying to turn this into a thing about jon /via/ chi 2.0 freaking out all the time, i hope jon /via/ chi 2.0 chills out itt

I'm just confused is all. Iirc, nothing I said was offensive or inflammatory.

yes it was actually

I don't really know what is more infuriating:

- watching the social construct of hip-hop culture equated with the larger social construct of the African-American community
- watching a social attitude within that community get linked especially to both that social construct and that genetic group, even though it also exists in most every (if not every, no qualifiers) other ethnic social construct in the country
- as a member of that community, getting relegated to invisible man status by the asshole making pronouncements about me

like, there are plenty of ways to talk about homophobia in hip-hop without making a "not to be all about race, but it bums me out that this is what black people do" comment that even five seconds of thought could have led you to

Okay, its just been on my mind because I was having dinner with this weekend with a friend that lectures on these very topics and she was filling me in on the long history of homophobia in the African-American community. Iirc, my posts above clarified that homophobes were found in all sorts of groups!

I mean, my post came from a genuince place, whether it came out that way or not. I had a legitimate discussion about this the other night and I've been thinking about it since.

what does a "long history of homophobia" even look like

America, basically

ya I was gonna say
seems like it would be basically indistinguishable from a "long history of living in a nation where homosexuality is criminalized/otherwise not tolerated"

Alright, I was trying to bring up what I thought was a valid discussion in relation to the Mister Cee incident and this topic in general, apparently I framed it horribly. I'm sorry.

we're all sorry :)

I am a White Lesbian Rapper. I just Finished my first song Touche'D. I am working with Matt Dr. Fink Formerly of Prince. He is helping me and we are writting beats together. I however maintain my own spacing and aranging or my lyrics. My second song is going to be callled Fine Like Wine.

Touche'D talk about a girl I was once close to and how shes acting shady on me now "So When are you gonna come and see me HU? when youve filled you girlfriend quota? Travled all over the world but Minnesota? Dont matter if I say pop or soda... Dont matter if you say Hella or really cuz years from now Im still gonna be me. Only differance is you might not see me cuz when you cant have me sure wanna be with me... no wanna be seen with me? better look in the mirror before you turn Touche'D ... Touche' Lady , take a hit flip the script and become slim shady.. dont matter if your dating a B**ch or a ladie cuz when you wanna ask me out im gonna say maybe"

Sone of the topics I talk about on my upcoming CD White Lesbian Rapper will be Lesbian topics such as: Hurt by ex gfs, a song about Jeeps (popular gay automobile), lesbian trends such as Jocks and abercrombie and Fitch jeans, with girls in pony tails, being broke, kinky cop sex, complation of naming of old school song titles talking about all the songs that remind you of one person from back in the day.

You may email me at Crookedluv✧✧✧@a✧✧.c✧✧ for more info

― Alicia Leafgreen, Wednesday, April 19, 2006 1:51 PM (4 years ago)

slept on post

I told a friend a few months ago to perform an experiment: imagine listening to songs, 97% of which are not written by, for, or to you.

"a song about Jeeps (popular gay automobile)"
lmfao

I'm just bummed because I truly meant this from a good place and I'm catching a lot of flak, when other posters have spouted a lot of intentionally hateful stuff without this much abuse for it.

eh, I dunno what to tell you — when life gives you lemons... don't make it about race

this is probably pertinent

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lJoabhPLDU

I think you meant to say "probably excellent"

this board has a long sad history of jonophobia, but at this point I don't know if there's anything any one of us can do about it, it's a pretty institutionalized mentality

free mr. cee

this board has a long sad history of jonophobia, but at this point I don't know if there's anything any one of us can do about it, it's a pretty institutionalized mentality

WTF dude?

JOKES BRUV

i mean jeez

"We're going to make fun of you for taking things too personally, but then we're going to keep addressing you specifically by name."

jon if you make an authoritative claim that a group of people has an ingrained cultural attitude and then say, "don't ask me to back up what i'm saying at all" and then act all victimized when others take offense at your generalization...i mean.

Okay, I apologize again for the way it was framed.

I would like to know when I pissed in some dude's cornflakes though, he really seems to have it in for me.

it was such a mild zing, clearly kindly intentioned!

jon, I like you: go get a drink.

that's the weirdest drinking game ever, Alfred

what if I throw in karaoke?

well then it just becomes awesome

drinking + karaoke = guaranteed good time

Drinkoke

Karakinky.

why is that lil b song pertinent?

lil b plays with homophobia in hip hop, especially with his (fake) group called bitch mob, who put out a new song today

other than the fact the thing is called bitch mob, it was just all about getting blowjobs from women....i guess outside of calling himself a bitch sometimes i don't really see how he's different from like any other rapper

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fl6Mf4yTm7A

I told a friend a few months ago to perform an experiment: imagine listening to songs, 97% of which are not written by, for, or to you.

I get what you're driving at, but I don't listen to music to "relate" or "identify" with the performers or subjects.

huh lil b wrote a song based on frogbs' college radio show

lol

I get what you're driving at, but I don't listen to music to "relate" or "identify" with the performers or subjects.

My point, though, is I settled years earlier on your approach because of what I noticed.

xpost

yeah rev but that song title is a little bit different thing imo than the one j0rdy posted

i guess outside of calling himself a bitch sometimes i don't really see how he's different from like any other rapper

thank you j0rdan and horseshoe for pointing out that i was not attacking jon and just joking around. don't know how many times i have to tell dude on his threads about everybody hating him that i don't hate him but eh go fig.