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the deeper understanding take is awful.

the songs from the red shoes are pretty much the songs on that album that I like, can't tell if that's good or bad; I was hoping she'd fix the songs I didn't like and make them better, but I don't really want to hear those ones futzed with. I assume she's stripping the trio bulgarka from all these takes which is unfortunate.

bah kate wtf are you doing

akm, Monday, 4 April 2011 17:43 (thirteen years ago) link

I thought she made some seriously cheesy musical choices on Aerial so won't be surprised if she's become the Witchy Soccer Mom Of Music.

Winky Dinky Dawgz (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 4 April 2011 17:51 (thirteen years ago) link

PS Would still have her babies etc.etc.

Winky Dinky Dawgz (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 4 April 2011 17:54 (thirteen years ago) link

love kate but i can't find it in me to get remotely excited about re-released "reworkings" - by the same token though its existence doesn't mean she's jumped any shark. it's just a pointless between-albums exercise, probably cuz she's bored or it's in her contract or she wants some more money or to keep her name around.

lex pretend, Monday, 4 April 2011 18:25 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm okay with her reworking red shoes tracks, but the production and performances on the sensual world were amazing and i'd be disappointed if she didn't agree. (i'd be fine if she publically disowned "reaching out," though.)

butterfield earth (get bent), Monday, 4 April 2011 18:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Wow, this new Deeper Understanding is seriously, tragically bad. Sounds like a Cleopatra Records tribute album.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 4 April 2011 19:31 (thirteen years ago) link

Although I do like how the end sounds like Laughing Stock-era Talk Talk.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 4 April 2011 19:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Aw man, I can't like the "Deeper Understanding" mix — most of the Trio Bulgarka vocals are gone! The original mix also sounded a lot more spacious. This sounds like what it most likely is — a home studio recording.

corey, Monday, 4 April 2011 19:47 (thirteen years ago) link

wasnt aerial recorded in her home studio as well?

diamonddave85, Monday, 4 April 2011 20:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Uh, haven't all her albums since Hounds of Love been recorded there?

Number None, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 01:41 (thirteen years ago) link

I think so, but none of them sound like home recordings (Aerial does a bit in some of the dated sounds she uses).

corey, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 01:47 (thirteen years ago) link

The story on the retitling of "The Sensual World" as "Flower of the Mountain" is that on the original she had asked for and been refused permission to quote directly from James Joyce's Ulysses, but she asked again recently and this time they let her.

She could have used the Ralph Spoilsport mantra instead.[/firesign]

Hideous Lump, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 04:06 (thirteen years ago) link

sadly, i fear kate is more interested in keeping the unwashed masses away from her beachfront 17-acre manse than in making music. she's fucking turned into the edge or something.

butterfield earth (get bent), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 05:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Hey Now!! Getting a little carried away there, Kate will never be any member of U2. Everyone needs to breathe a little easier over this project.

JacobSanders, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 05:17 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm just ribbing kate cuz i love her.

butterfield earth (get bent), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 05:18 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm actually looking forward to hearing this, but I won't listen to any clips until I have the record in my hand. It might be a failure, but hearing her sing This Woman's Work again could never disappoint. I don't really question why she's doing this, just happy to hear her voice.

JacobSanders, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 05:23 (thirteen years ago) link

i dont not dig this

k3vin k., Tuesday, 5 April 2011 05:24 (thirteen years ago) link

She has identified the good tracks on The Red Shoes rather precisely. Also apart from leaving in Deeper Understanding and leaving out The Fog she's also chosen my favoruites from The Sensual World. Not sure what this means.

A comp of just the originals of these tracks would be an amazingly strong album, I reckon.

Tim F, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 05:32 (thirteen years ago) link

sadly, i fear kate is more interested in keeping the unwashed masses away from her beachfront 17-acre manse than in making music. she's fucking turned into the edge or something.

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She's the only 'artist'/'famousperson' I've been in a studio with and prevented (we all were, it wasn't just me) from going anywhere near.

Mark G, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 06:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Mark, why were you in a studio with Saint Kate? Any interesting tales about her working methods, juicy gossip etc?

Cluster the boots (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 13:00 (thirteen years ago) link

It was a TV studio, I was there as a member of a TV pop review panel.

She was being interviewed on-camera about 2 hours after we'd finished our pieces, but we had to stand 'over there' and go nowhere near the goddess either before or after her spot.

Sorry bout that, story got less interesting the longer I went on.

lol, as they say..

Mark G, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 13:03 (thirteen years ago) link

After the slightly conservative production on Aerial, if she wants to go back and make The Sensual World and The Red Shoes more electronic, I'm not complaining.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 12:54 (thirteen years ago) link

Really not getting this after hearing Deeper Understanding. I thought the reworking would be more drastic - maybe a type of solo piano thing. The new version is very similar, just not as good.

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 13:39 (thirteen years ago) link

Well, Big Boi's a fan

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 18:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Did I read somewhere that the computer on this is sung by her kid?

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 7 April 2011 03:44 (thirteen years ago) link

Big Boi has been repping for Kate for forever!

Winter Crab (Abbbottt), Thursday, 7 April 2011 03:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Ah no, I meant, of this new rerecording!

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 7 April 2011 04:01 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.katebushnews.com/wp-content/uploads/KB2A-682x1024.jpg

Kate Bujorshk

kelpolaris, Thursday, 7 April 2011 21:37 (thirteen years ago) link

o ya, and a glimpse into the Directors Cut packaging (image = huge)
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/6569/directorscutdeluxeset.jpg

Fish People = Khate Buorke

kelpolaris, Thursday, 7 April 2011 21:40 (thirteen years ago) link

this will make lex real mad but anyway this alan partridge kate bush medley fucking slays me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJbjAwvRWLs

Bleeqwot the Chef (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 7 April 2011 21:57 (thirteen years ago) link

WTF with Fish People? The interior of the packaging looks hundreds of times better than the exterior.

akm, Friday, 8 April 2011 04:58 (thirteen years ago) link

there is a clip of Lily on youtube now, it is..also not as good as the original.

akm, Monday, 11 April 2011 14:08 (thirteen years ago) link

this strikes me as one of those perfectly misguided times when an artist "finally does" the one thing her "fans" have wished and moaned on the internet for them to do until it's become blindly accepted as a good thing. And then weirded out/dissapointed instantly when it happens and the reality is.. errr.

"wouldn't it be great if xyz took all the good bits from the (less satisfying than their consensus peak) record(s), took another go at the production and everything would be great again! blemishes forgotten and the world (and fans ideals of their god...) made a bit more perfect!" what could possibly go wrong?!

*see also "back to the sound of when more people liked them/they were more pop" = return to form (unless it's shit and totally devoid of the un-recapture-able x factor that made the original sparkle in context & time.

*doubt this is Kate's sole motivation, but surprised she isn't just moving on....

*"Smile" I guess? Never been a big Beach Boys fan but only positive counter-example I can think of.

side splitting genital based username (fndgo), Monday, 11 April 2011 17:38 (thirteen years ago) link

that said, it's Kate Bush!!!!!!

I love both the source albums regardless, "bad production" isn't something that gets in the way for me 99% of the time....

side splitting genital based username (fndgo), Monday, 11 April 2011 17:40 (thirteen years ago) link

kinda taking this as a retirement note, but at the same time, i can't even fathom her not trying to release one more great album -

this is a bit shallow, but in a lot of ways i think the directors cut is just a bit to keep her vox in check and, hey, sell the product

o pointy birds, o pointy pointy, anoint my head, anoity noity (kelpolaris), Monday, 11 April 2011 21:30 (thirteen years ago) link

preview of 'flower of the mountain' is up now and it's bad too. so my hopes are officially dashed for this turning out good.

akm, Monday, 18 April 2011 13:53 (thirteen years ago) link

i trust nothing by NME but
http://www.nme.com/blog/index.php?blog=140&p=10121&title=kate_bush_director_s_cut_first_listen&more=1&c=1

kelpolaris, Monday, 18 April 2011 16:40 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah I dunno we'll see. I like all of these songs and can't imagine any of them being improved upon frankly, and what I've heard so far is NOT promising. but the moments of pleasure take at least sounds good.

akm, Monday, 18 April 2011 17:55 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, i'm maybe most intrigued by that one, although i really like the kamen orchestration on the original version

boehner und der club of gore (donna rouge), Monday, 18 April 2011 17:58 (thirteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Loving this new "Deeper Understanding". If the rest of the album is just as odd I'll be very happy.

Winky Dinky Dawgz (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 9 May 2011 04:13 (twelve years ago) link

Interview with Kate Bush by Ken Bruce on the way on BBC Radio 2 now

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 9 May 2011 09:06 (twelve years ago) link

this is streaming on NPR (and apparently on japanese itunes so I'm sure a leak is around somewhere). listened to most of it last night. Not convinced by the Flower of the Mountain; I love Ulysses and I love that monologue but I think the Sensual World worked better, it just sounds kind of flat....

The This Woman's Work re-do is pretty intense and sad. maybe too sad.

akm, Thursday, 12 May 2011 17:08 (twelve years ago) link

The BBC show isn't available in my area? Just listened to 'This Woman's Work' and it's beautiful and devastating.

JacobSanders, Thursday, 12 May 2011 17:56 (twelve years ago) link

on the other hand, this new version of 'rubberband girl'...also sucks! i really just don't like that song at all

spätzle logic (donna rouge), Thursday, 12 May 2011 17:57 (twelve years ago) link

hella disappointed with Flower of the Moutain, the oOOOOOOO yes parts from the original were my favorite!

ODD FURRY WOLF GANG KILL THEM ALL PLEASE!!!! (diamonddave85), Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:54 (twelve years ago) link

the mix is terrible, I hope this is not how the final thing sounds, the vocals are way too high on many things (and so is love for example)...yeesh, this project is such a misstep. what the hell?

in one of the interviews it sounded like she is done with a new album. bring that on. but I hope she does a better job on it than she did on this. it's weird she's donig so much promotion for this project and she was like completely absent when arial came out.

akm, Friday, 13 May 2011 00:08 (twelve years ago) link

and rubberband girl is bad. very bad.

the only success here is this woman's work and moments of pleasure, and I don't think they're any better than the originals, they're just different. these other versions just sound...what the hell.

akm, Friday, 13 May 2011 00:10 (twelve years ago) link

"never be mine" is not bad - dunno that i prefer it to the original or anything

mostly underwhelmed by this

spätzle logic (donna rouge), Friday, 13 May 2011 00:15 (twelve years ago) link

This is on Spotify now btw.

Øystein, Friday, 13 May 2011 10:07 (twelve years ago) link


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