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oh on the show. yeah probly fair enough. chartwise it was variety a-go-go

Boobage Dirtbag (Noodle Vague), Monday, 4 April 2011 12:00 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, I don't think the point was that the charts had become (more) like a variety show, but that TOTP had.

in a wonderful balloon! (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 4 April 2011 12:09 (nine years ago) link

fuck Noel Edmonds and his 'comedy' links

fuck Noel Edmonds and his 'comedy' links

I know, what a dick. Still we had the Four Seasons doing "Silver Star" this week. Also Eric Carmen's "interview" with Noel Edmonds, where you couldn't hear a word he was saying, don't be shy Eric!

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 8 April 2011 08:50 (nine years ago) link

Interviews on TOTP? that's a rarity...

Mark G, Friday, 8 April 2011 09:12 (nine years ago) link

"Inteview" not really the word.

"You wrote a song for Dana didn't you?"
"Mumble mumble mumble"
"What's the best song you've ever written?"
"Mumble mumble mumble All By Myself"
"Well all the best with the new single"
"Mumble"

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 8 April 2011 09:15 (nine years ago) link

Don't know what song he wrote for Dana

Oh and Noel was saying what a good album "Eric Carmen" was: a rare display of good taste from Edmonds there!

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 8 April 2011 09:17 (nine years ago) link

Noel had to say he liked it cos he didn't want to blow a raspberry.

ridic beau (NickB), Friday, 8 April 2011 09:21 (nine years ago) link

My god that it horribly formed.

ridic beau (NickB), Friday, 8 April 2011 09:22 (nine years ago) link

*is*

ridic beau (NickB), Friday, 8 April 2011 09:22 (nine years ago) link

OK so Google tells me Dana covered "Never Gonna Fall in Love Again" from the aforementioned "Eric Carmen" album

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 8 April 2011 09:26 (nine years ago) link

Is Dana the one who did some religious kids programme called 'Wake Up Sunday'?

in a wonderful balloon! (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Friday, 8 April 2011 10:18 (nine years ago) link

Sounds likely

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 8 April 2011 10:23 (nine years ago) link

10CC, "Mandy Fly Me" was on too. Fantastic!

Tom D (Tom D.), Friday, 8 April 2011 10:34 (nine years ago) link

NEdmonds always had his love of singer-songwriters, to be fair.

Mark G, Friday, 8 April 2011 10:48 (nine years ago) link

Big fan of Harry Chapin, yer Edmonds.

mike t-diva, Friday, 8 April 2011 14:40 (nine years ago) link

Balderdash certainly describes droll Noel's career.

This was easily the most WTF song on this week's show:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iISUroWbu2U

in a wonderful balloon! (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 9 April 2011 22:17 (nine years ago) link

I watched last night's 1976 episode, it was amazingly and compellingly bad. Lots of odd-looking folks I've never heard of awkwardly performing novelty songs, and one of Pan's People doing some remarkably gratuitous ass-shaking in the direction of the camera. I need more.

Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Friday, 22 April 2011 14:22 (nine years ago) link

70s was the golden age for ugly blokes, you could still end up in a band on TOTP with groupies galore. Rubettes' (sans caps) song sounded more like the Beatles than the Rutles!

None'll come and then a lot'll (Tom D.), Friday, 22 April 2011 14:27 (nine years ago) link

I'm watching this now. LOL at the male members of the Vagabonds miming the female backing vocals. Something massively depressing about second tier disco groups though, like they're trapped in time, it's as if they're composed entirely of all the bits of late 70's disco that don't influence music today.

grill 'em bake 'em fry 'em burn 'em (snoball), Friday, 22 April 2011 14:57 (nine years ago) link

Shoeless and carrying a walking stick with a bicycle bell on it? Fucking hell, Harpo could teach Lady gaga a thing or two.

grill 'em bake 'em fry 'em burn 'em (snoball), Friday, 22 April 2011 15:00 (nine years ago) link

Sheer Elegance one of the most misnamed bands ever judging by what they were wearing, the uglyness of the Rubettes & their overcocky drummer, the utter WTFness of Harpo. mandatory viewing from now on!

/人 ◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ (zappi), Friday, 22 April 2011 15:23 (nine years ago) link

I'm sure Punk would never of happened if Sky+ would of been available in 1976...ended up fast forwarding most of last night's show...bring back Noosha Fox...become a little obsessed with s-s-single bed...

sonnyboy, Friday, 22 April 2011 16:27 (nine years ago) link

^^^ same goes for watching it on iPlayer. I don't know if 'compellingly bad' is the term, or just 'bad'.

grill 'em bake 'em fry 'em burn 'em (snoball), Friday, 22 April 2011 16:50 (nine years ago) link

the uglyness of the Rubettes & their overcocky drummer

Enjoy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sx-aH0oBscw

Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 April 2011 16:51 (nine years ago) link

definitely 'compellingly bad' for me. and Fox lady really reminded me of Alison Goldfrapp which is a Good Thing.

/人 ◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ (zappi), Friday, 22 April 2011 17:10 (nine years ago) link

Noosha F missing link between Clare Grogan and Goldfrapp. Love that record.

Michael Jones, Friday, 22 April 2011 17:16 (nine years ago) link

Ah, been catching up via good old iplayer on the wii.

Old enough to remember these episodes quite clearly in some cases.

Sad that they haven't gone back far enough in time to have Sparks on.

Still, don't recall that Gilbert O'Sullivan song though I must have heard it then.

Mark G, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 11:30 (nine years ago) link

Oh, last I heard, they are definitely doing this run for a year.

After that? Who knows...

Mark G, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 11:30 (nine years ago) link

Still, don't recall that Gilbert O'Sullivan song though I must have heard it then.

He was long gone as commercial proposition by 1976. That song sounded like a demo, did artists have to re-record tracks? I know they had to re-record vocals, hence the ubiquity of the Ladybirds. But then other acts obviously just mimed to the record.

None'll come and then a lot'll (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 April 2011 11:37 (nine years ago) link

They did 'have' to.

A lot of them switched the tapes post-session, apparently.

Mark G, Tuesday, 26 April 2011 11:59 (nine years ago) link

ooooooo-oooooooooooooh Vienna it's Slik

grill 'em bake 'em fry 'em burn 'em (snoball), Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:32 (nine years ago) link

It's Midge Uuuurrrr...

sonnyboy, Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:35 (nine years ago) link

And Paul knickerless

sonnyboy, Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:36 (nine years ago) link

Jesus Christ, superstar?

grill 'em bake 'em fry 'em burn 'em (snoball), Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:37 (nine years ago) link

DLT looks like Badly Drawn Boy.

grill 'em bake 'em fry 'em burn 'em (snoball), Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:47 (nine years ago) link

This is sooooo much better than last weeks....

sonnyboy, Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:50 (nine years ago) link

Only one novelty act so far.

grill 'em bake 'em fry 'em burn 'em (snoball), Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:51 (nine years ago) link

Shit Brotherhood Of Man are still number one...

sonnyboy, Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:52 (nine years ago) link

They were there for 6 weeks.

grill 'em bake 'em fry 'em burn 'em (snoball), Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:57 (nine years ago) link

The guy without the 'tasche wants to die.

grill 'em bake 'em fry 'em burn 'em (snoball), Thursday, 28 April 2011 18:58 (nine years ago) link

I still fucking hate the last line of that song...not for the paedo connotations...just cos i hate it...

sonnyboy, Thursday, 28 April 2011 19:00 (nine years ago) link

So, there isn't a TOTP this week, but there is a "Primal Scream" themed evening coming up on Friday.

Mark G, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 15:44 (nine years ago) link

AAAAAAAAAAARGH

lloyd banks knew my father (history mayne), Tuesday, 3 May 2011 15:49 (nine years ago) link

No, the band, not the Janov therapy.

Mark G, Tuesday, 3 May 2011 15:50 (nine years ago) link

You could kind of see why Midge Ure ended up in Ultravox, I mean "Requiem", the title sounds an like Ultravox song. Slik were a pretty cool looking band by 1976 standards.

Tom D has taken many months to run this thread to ground (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 May 2011 10:49 (nine years ago) link

Oh, it was very Ultravox, for sure.

I got tickets to see them live in 1978, Top Rank, Reading, thanks to being at the Radio210 offices at the right time: The whole band were there, I met them all, and got the signed piccies, and for some reason that escapes me two free tickets and a bunch of discount vouchers. It wasn't full to say the least, and the support band, "Screemer", were perfectly competent early seventies pophairies that would lose their career path in the wake of punk...

Mark G, Thursday, 5 May 2011 10:55 (nine years ago) link

That 1978 should be (Nov) 1976 (oops), timings at that point in history are crucial.

Mark G, Thursday, 5 May 2011 10:58 (nine years ago) link

Mud go disco, urgh...

got a whole lotta gloves (snoball), Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:33 (nine years ago) link

Kate Bush was in a Comic Strip episode with him in it too.

everything, Friday, 10 July 2020 21:53 (two months ago) link

Confession: having never seen Rob 'n' Raz & Leila K on TOTP at the time, or even having heard of them until a few days ago, I spent the best part of three decades thinking that song ('Got To Get') was by Neneh Cherry.

The Rampaging Goats of Llandudno (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 13 July 2020 14:19 (two months ago) link

I've started watching these to alleviate lockdown and also because this is, for me, pretty much where my personal history of pop begins - songs I'm not old enough to remember being new releases but being on the radio and familiar.

I was under the impression they didn't recycle performances nearly as much as they do. Some of them I've seen two or three times and only going on the ones on the iPlayer home page at this moment!

That Inner City song "Whatcha Gonna Do With My Lovin'" needs to be more fondly thought of than it is, so lush and warm. I am also really enjoying Jimmy Sommerville donning his good trackies and going wild for being on stage.

boxedjoy, Monday, 13 July 2020 21:27 (two months ago) link

That Inner City song "Whatcha Gonna Do With My Lovin'" needs to be more fondly thought of than it is, so lush and warm.

Yeah I enjoyed that one - almost a precursor to the smoother end of 2-step.

chap, Monday, 13 July 2020 21:32 (two months ago) link

Yes, it’s wonderful and actually a pretty faithful rendition of the Stephanie Mills original of which I tend to keep forgetting that it’s a cover.

No mean feat. DaBaby (breastcrawl), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 19:51 (two months ago) link

Mood whiplash so strong this episode that it shifted Van Morrison's hairline back three inches.

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Friday, 17 July 2020 19:42 (two months ago) link

You'll love this if you love the single mix; one of the very best remixes of the era, way ahead of the curve.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmxiO4hhaWY

piscesx, Friday, 17 July 2020 20:05 (two months ago) link

FBI Project and especially Bruno Brookes showing that waistcoats are for wankers.

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Friday, 17 July 2020 20:13 (two months ago) link

"Hello I'm Bruno Brookes and I don't have a clue what the fuck is going on but I'm going to try and cover that up by using my standard 'enthusiastic DJ' voice."

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Friday, 17 July 2020 20:16 (two months ago) link

yeah the Def Mix is my favourite part of that yesteryear Frankie Knuckles comp but I only knew it from there, I had no concept that at a point in time it would have been considered ~pop music~

boxedjoy, Friday, 17 July 2020 20:39 (two months ago) link

boxedjoy, serious question: do you follow current South African music/the various SA house genre threads at all? House music in all its uniquely varied local splendour is a major part of pop music down there.

No mean feat. DaBaby (breastcrawl), Friday, 17 July 2020 20:56 (two months ago) link

I don't, but only because I wouldn't know where to start with the immense and spiralling threads here!

House music has always been a major part of UK chartpop, at least in my narrative of history. My first homemade tape of songs recorded from the radio went "Don't Give Me Your Life/Two Can Play That Game/Dreamer/It's Not Over/U Sure Do," I got to live through the Ibiza crossover of the millenium and UK garage as well as the Rinse FM Pop takeover of the mid noughties. It's not that I think of that Inner City track being weird because it's house music, more that it's so lush and obviously aspiring to be classy, sophisticated, opulent, a kind of tastefulness that you don't really hear in the kind of dance music that tends to be chartpopular

boxedjoy, Saturday, 18 July 2020 22:08 (two months ago) link

it's so lush and obviously aspiring to be classy, sophisticated, opulent, a kind of tastefulness that you don't really hear in the kind of dance music that tends to be chartpopular


that’s the thing with SA house tho, a lot of the chartpopular stuff is exactly that!

a crash course for your consideration:

•Kabza de Small & DJ Maphorisa’s melodic amapiano:
Sha Sha • Tender Love
🍏Samthing Soweto ft. Sha Sha • Akulaleki
🥭KdS x DjM ft. Aymos & Samthing Soweto • Emcimbini

•Sun-EL World’s gorgeous house:
Sun-El Musician ft. Simmy & Lelo Kamau • Sonini
🍎Simmy • Umahlalela
🍏Sun-El Musician ft. Ami Faku • Into Ingawe
🥭Sun-El Musician ft. Msaki • Ubomi Abumanga

•some others (possibly involving Msaki):
🍏Tresor ft. Msaki • Sondela
Prince Kaybee ft. Msaki • Fetch Your Life

All of them big pop hits in South Africa in the past two years, top 10 or even #1 (some you might know from the 🍎2018 or 🍏2019 EOY 77, and then there’s the🥭2020 contenders)

•Some older examples, and equally big hits:
Black Coffee ft. Nakhane Toure • We Dance Again
Lady Zamar • Collide
Shekhinah • Suited

And these tracks share the upper echelons of the pop charts with bangers like 🍎”Banomoya” and the thread-inspiring 🍏”Baby Are You Coming?”, both of which also placed in our EOY Tracks 77.
And consider another big amapiano hit from last year, De Mthuda’s “Shesha”, which bangs, but is also almost pure Larry Heard.

(all of this in marked contrast to the hipster-approved bobbins/club-but-not-chart hits like “Inspector Morse” and “It Makes You Forget (Itgehane)” that typically place high in our EOY 77)

These tracks are typically conceived and released in 5 to 7 minute format, only to be edited down later for radio play or for the video, if at all - so it’s also not house condensed into a 3-minute pop format, Kylie or Dua style.

If there’s one country in this world that could be considered a House Nation it’s South Africa.

<<end of pitch>>

No mean feat. DaBaby (breastcrawl), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 20:20 (two months ago) link

To go back to the original topic: there was a spell in the early 90s when those Def Club Mixes were one of my favourite things in music, but I don’t think these Knuckles/Morales remixes were ever chart hits in their own right. They definitely supported/enhanced the popularity of the original versions though, probably culminating in Morales’s remix of “Dreamlover”.

(also in the particular case of the Inner City track a lot of the qualities you mention are inherent in the pre-house Stephanie Mills original, which was a sizeable US hit)

No mean feat. DaBaby (breastcrawl), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 20:33 (two months ago) link

oh I LOVE Dreamlover in Morales mix form!

that post is a wonderful primer and I massively appreciate it. breastcrawl your passion and excitement for this is so infectious and encouraging, I'm looking forward to spending some time with this later on

boxedjoy, Tuesday, 21 July 2020 20:37 (two months ago) link

back to TOTP and there's a few specials on iPlayer just now which are ~interesting~ viewing, the Latin special is shameless and the FA Cup one opts for Anfield Rap over World In Motion which is a choice move

boxedjoy, Tuesday, 21 July 2020 20:38 (two months ago) link

<blush emoji> and thank you for your kind words!

No mean feat. DaBaby (breastcrawl), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 20:54 (two months ago) link

Due to my family's monopolisation of the TV on Christmas Day 1989, I didn't get to see this episode at the time, but it's like someone's got their finger on the fast forward button as there's 20 seconds of one song, 30 seconds of another and then OH IT'S JUNE!!!

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Friday, 24 July 2020 19:23 (two months ago) link

Confession: having never seen Rob 'n' Raz & Leila K on TOTP at the time, or even having heard of them until a few days ago, I spent the best part of three decades thinking that song ('Got To Get') was by Neneh Cherry.

She does sound a lot like Neneh Cherry - them both being Swedish I guess is why.

Eyeball Kicks, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 11:31 (two months ago) link

No double episode tonight, just this woeful 'Review of the 80s' that was originally broadcast at the end of 1989. 'Live' in the studio, Status Quo and Shakin' Stevens.

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Friday, 31 July 2020 19:11 (one month ago) link

A song about getting old sung by a man who didn't appear to age for the whole decade.

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Friday, 31 July 2020 19:14 (one month ago) link

A brush and a can of paint on top of the drum machine next to Phil Collins during 'In The Air Tonight'. I was hoping he'd start splashing paint over the audience when the drums kicked in but of course not. I may have told this story elsewhere in ILX, if not on this thread, but I used to work with a woman who was two or three years older than me who said that she was attracted to Phil Collins since she was 15, mainly because of the skullet.

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Friday, 31 July 2020 20:04 (one month ago) link

Some good 10 second video clips in this review of decade and then, yes, David Cassidy in the studio doing a full song.

A stubbly cliff Richard was quite a sight.

The clips are even too short to skip over

koogs, Sunday, 2 August 2020 11:22 (one month ago) link

Chris de burgh in studio now

koogs, Sunday, 2 August 2020 11:23 (one month ago) link

And nothing in the listings for next week...

koogs, Sunday, 2 August 2020 11:30 (one month ago) link

Nor on the TOTP page on the BBC website. I will be gutted if this is finishing before it gets to episodes and performances from my own era of watching.

boxedjoy, Sunday, 2 August 2020 11:53 (one month ago) link

oh, looks like it's been bumped by the snooker.

(although why that shit's not on bbc2 where it belongs is another question)

koogs, Sunday, 2 August 2020 12:41 (one month ago) link

Twitter scuttlebut suggests there’s been no ‘Story of 1990’ filmed yet because Covid.

piscesx, Sunday, 2 August 2020 16:31 (one month ago) link

Can't they just get Stuart Maconie and Paul Morley to talk shit on a Zoom call?

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Sunday, 2 August 2020 16:54 (one month ago) link

Are they not?

Mark G, Sunday, 2 August 2020 16:56 (one month ago) link

one month passes...

Ah, the thread you can only find by not searching for top or pops...

Anyway, the 1990 documentaries are on next Friday so 1990 episodes should follow.

90 was a good year for indie but I wonder how much of that will make it onto totp, or will it be full of dreck like the last couple?

koogs, Saturday, 26 September 2020 08:42 (two days ago) link

Maybe it's just nostalgia but I've really really enjoyed the last couple of years of reruns.

Chewshabadoo, Saturday, 26 September 2020 09:51 (two days ago) link

Woo! I've been waiting for this.

The Rampaging Goats of Llandudno (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 26 September 2020 12:19 (two days ago) link

90 was a good year for indie but I wonder how much of that will make it onto totp, or will it be full of dreck like the last couple?

A bit of both. For every Kinky Afro Groove there'll be a few Turtle Powers.

The Rampaging Goats of Llandudno (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 26 September 2020 12:21 (two days ago) link

Thank god - I was getting concerned.

chap, Saturday, 26 September 2020 12:32 (two days ago) link

There's a list on Wikipedia but it's per year and not per episode (which avoids spoilers - good) and also says it's incomplete. It looks better but still not great.

koogs, Saturday, 26 September 2020 14:28 (two days ago) link

If you search Popscene and add the year, you'll get all the episodes

Mark G, Saturday, 26 September 2020 20:44 (two days ago) link

Search on Google, obviously

Mark G, Saturday, 26 September 2020 20:44 (two days ago) link

But spoilers. I'd rather watch them roll out an episode at a time (and then fast forward though them)

koogs, Saturday, 26 September 2020 20:52 (two days ago) link

There is that.

On the other hand, can I be bothered looking them up? They're kinda now 'I remember them pretty clearly from first time around' nowadays.

Mark G, Saturday, 26 September 2020 20:55 (two days ago) link


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