Year-End Critics' Polls '08

They still put Spz, Cave, Verve, Primal Scream in tho

Rolling Stone : 12 | Guns n' Roses: Chinese Democracy

They had this ranking all gift-wrapped and ready to go by September, didn't they?

Steve your rule would have knocked Pulp out of the reckoning by the time they released This Is Hardcore.

The Wire has plenty of obscure titles as usual. The tricky part is figuring out which ones are any fun. Will investigate Jeck, Hospitals, Butcher, Caretaker, Ikeda, Dusk + Blackdown for starters.

I remember getting that David'n'Dizzee single and thinking it sucked, but if not for its mention here would have totally forgotten

The best music of 2008 by The A.V. Club staff
http://rateyourmusic.com/list/change/the_best_music_of_2008_by_the_a_v__club_staff

Steve your rule would have knocked Pulp out of the reckoning by the time they released This Is Hardcore

different time, different game

different goalposts

in '82 you could kick a jarvis

I can't go on, I'll go on:

21. Vampire Weekend, "One (Blake's Got a New Face)"
22. Jay-Z and T.I., "Swagga Like Us"
23. The Black Keys, "I Got Mine"
24. Lykke Li, "I'm Good, I'm Gone"
25. Leona Lewis, "Bleeding Love"
26. The Rapture, "No Sex for Ben"
27. The Ting Tings, "Shut Up and Let Me Go"
28. Kevin Rudolf ft. Lil Wayne, "Let It Rock"
29. Pink, "So What"
30. Weezer, "Pork and Beans"

31. Conor Oberst, "Moab"
32. N.E.R.D., "Everybody Nose"
33. The Raveonettes, "Ally, Walk with Me"
34. Gnarls Barkley, "Run"
35. Kaiser Chiefs, "Addicted to Drugs"
36. Usher ft. Beyonce & Lil Wayne, "Love in This Club Pt. 2"
37. Bob Dylan, "Someday Baby" [alt. take from Tell Tale Signs]
38. Jamey Johnson, "High Cost of Living"
39. The Academy Is . . . , "About a Girl"
40. Kings of Leon, "Sex on Fire"

41. Duffy, "Warwick Avenue"
42. The Raconteurs, "Salute Your Solution"
43. Erykah Badu, "The Healer"
44. Panic at the Disco, "Nine in the Afternoon"
45. Foals, "Cassius"
46. Taylor Swift, "Fifteen"
47. Janelle Monae, "Many Moons"
48. John Mellencamp, "Troubled Land"
49. Jonas Brothers, "Video Girl"
50. Jackson Browne, "Time the Conqueror"

51. Ashlee Simpson, "Rule Breaker"
52. Lee Ann Womack, "Last Call"
53. AC/DC, "Big Jack"
54. Cat Power, "I Believe in You"
55. Sigur Ros, "Gobbledigook"
56. The Hold Steady, "Constructive Summer"
57. Charles Hamilton, "Brooklyn Girls"
58. Jazmine Sullivan, "Bust Your Windows"
59. Low vs. Diamond, "Don't Forget Sister"
60. Ne-Yo, "Closer"

61. Robyn, "Cobrastyle"
62. The Gaslight Anthem, "The '59 Sound"
63. LCD Soundsystem, "Big Ideas"
64. She and Him, "Why Do You Let Me Stay Here"
65. The Virgins, "Rich Kids"
66. Jenny Lewis, "Acid Tongue"
67. M.I.A., "Shells"
68. Fall Out Boy, "I Don't Care"
69. Missy Elliott, "Ching-a-Ling"
70. Busy Signal, "Tic Toc"

71. Phantom Planet, "Do the Panic"
72. Sam Sparro, "Black and Gold"
73. Ciara ft. Ludacris, "High Price"
74. Ra Ra Riot, "Dying Is Fine"
75. Flo Rida ft. T-Pain, "Low"
76. The Roots, "Rising Down"
77. Hercules and Love Affair, "Blind"
78. Love as Laughter, "Holly"
79. Kid Cudi, "Day 'n' Nite"
80. Mudcrutch, "Crystal River"

81. The Knux, "Cappuccino"
82. Santogold & Diplo, "Icarus"
83. Get 'Em Mamis, "Cold Summer"
84. Lil Wayne, "A Milli"
85. M83, "Kim & Jessie"
86. The Rumble Strips, "Cowboy"
87. Friendly Fires, "Jump in the Pool"
88. Bon Iver, "Skinny Love"
89. Old Crow Medicine Show, "Alabama High-Test"
90. Busta Rhymes, "Don't Touch Me (Throw da Water on 'Em)"

91. O'Neal McKnight, "Check Your Coat"
92. White Denim, "Shake Shake Shake"
93. Madonna, "Candy Shop"
94. Los Campesinos, "Miserabilia"
95. Lucinda Williams, "Real Love"
96. Little Joy, "Brand New Start"
97. Sheryl Crow, "Now That You're Gone"
98. Teyana Taylor, "Google Me"
99. The Enemy, "You're Not Alone"
100. Will.i.am, "Yes We Can"

Steve your rule would have knocked Pulp out of the reckoning by the time they released This Is Hardcore

this would not be a problem

73. Ciara ft. Ludacris, "High Price"

ayyy, thumbs up for this

and here, I'll do it for you:

5. Lil Wayne, "Lollipop"
84. Lil Wayne, "A Milli"

93. Madonna, "Candy Shop"

this is so fucking bad but i do like 'Give It 2 Me'

this is probably the best singles list you'll see (despite the many glaring atrocities)

hahahaha I seriously doubt that

I always like Baltimore City Paper's lists, and not just when I contribute to them: http://www.citypaper.com/special/story.asp?id=17187. This one is local albums: http://www.citypaper.com/special/story.asp?id=17188.

I was bummed that only 3 things I voted for ended up in them (Erykah Badu in the former, 410 Pharaohs and E Major in the latter), but yeah, those lists came out pretty respectable.

Fastnbulbous - The Dusk + Blackdown album is really good, very strong opening and closing runs.

You know, despite the fact that I'd probably swap those places, I can't really fault them too hugely for putting "Lollipop" over "A milli". "Lollipop" is one those odd songs that managed to take bits and pieces from everything that was hot at that moment, and put them together in such a way that it sounded like none of its sources.

91. O'Neal McKnight, "Check Your Coat"

d-_-b

Hold up.

28. Kevin Rudolf ft. Lil Wayne, "Let It Rock"
84. Lil Wayne, "A Milli"

yeah that RS list is half dope radio shit that most other rock mags turn their noses up at, and half horrible blog shit that even most of the people that liked it rightfully forgot a week after they downloaded it.

you're forgetting all the token rock album tracks

well half of the non-obvious Rolling Stone stuff, i should say

it's cool that some obscure Baltimore rap benefitted from the blog bias @ #83, though

haha thank you (xpost)

3. The Hospitals - Hairdryer Peace

great album, seriously it deserves to be this high up

WIRE Critical Beats list:

Louis Guillaume - Soulpoint
Joker & Rustie - Play Doe
King Midas Sound - Cool Out
DJ Koze - I Want To Sleep
Martyn - Vancouver/Natural Selection
Peverelist - Infinity Is Now/Junktion
Rustie - Zig Zag
Trim - Soulfood vol 3
Scuba - Twitch
Shackleton - Soundboy's Suicide Note
Shackleton - Death Is Not Final
Skream - Skreamizm vol 4
Tobias - I Can't Fight The Feeling
Villalobos - Vasco
Villalobos - Enfants

i would love a little 'play' button beside all of those

WIRE Electronica list

Benge - Twenty Sytems
Blevin Blectum - Gular Flutter
Bochum Welt - ROB
Byetone - Death of a Typographer
Lawrence English - Kiri No Oto
Flying Lotus - Los Angeles
Koen Holtkamp - Field Rituals
Machinefabrik - Dauw
Matmos - Supreme Balloon
Move D - Drone
Theo Parrish - Sound Sculptures
Max Richter - 24 Postcards
Schlammpeitziger - Schwingstelle Fur Rauschabzug
snd - 4,5,6
Tape - Luminarium

Yes Steve, me too! x-post

WIRE Avant Rock list:

Aufgehoben - Khora
Burning Star Core - Challenger
Birchville Cat Motel - Four Freckle Constellation
Black Mountain - In The Future
Dead C - Secret Earth
Eat Skull - Sick to Death
Fabulous Diamonds - s/t
Growing - All The Way
Hair Police - Certainty of Swarms
Hospitals - Hairdryer Peace
Hototogisu - Under the Rose
Religious Knives - Remains
Scorces - I Turn Into You
Alexander Tucker - Portal
Valet - Naked Acid

If anyone particularly wants any of the others (outer limits, global, hip hop, jazz, modern composition, dub etc), give us a shout and I'll try and do it later.

that RS

list is a fucking trip

Outer Limits please!

i would love to see the wire 'ip 'op list

The Wire Hiphop list:

Clipse presents Re-Up Gang - s/t
Cool Kids - Winterfresh
Peedi Crack - Welcome To Crakk's House
Giggs - Walk In Da Park
Charles Hamilton - It's Charles Hamilton
Alicia Keys - Teenage Love Affair
Lil Wayne - Tha Carter III
Madlib - Madvillany 2
MIA feat. Jay-Z - Boyz (Remix)
9th Wonder & Buckshot - The Formula
Proton - Red & Purple Mixtape Vol. 1
Guilty Simpson - Ode To The Ghetto
TI feat. Kanye West, Jay-Z & Lil Wayne - Swagga Like Us
Wale - The Mixtape About Nothing
Yo! Majesty - Futuristically Speaking...Never Be Afraid

The Wire Outer Limits list:

AFCGT - AFCGT
Astral Social Club - Model Town In A Field Of Mud
John Baker - The John Baker Tapes Vol 1 & 2
Excepter - Debt Dept
Ron Geesin - Biting The Hand: BBC Radio Broadcasts 1969-1975
G*Park - Reuters
Russell Haswell - Second Live Salvage
The Hub - Boundary Layer
Kikuri - Pulverised Purple
Jacob Kirkegaard - Labyrinthitis
Richard Skelton - Marking Time
Shit And Shine - Kuss Mich, Meine Liebe
Howard Stelzer - Bond Inlets
Volcano The Bear - Amidst The Noise And Twigs
Zeitkratzer - Electronics

The Wire Hiphop list:

some decent picks on there but man i hate lists that lump albums and songs into one confusing bag like that

i mean maybe all their other lists are like that too and I just couldn't tell

1. Beyonce, "Single Ladies (Put a Ring on It)"

could get behind this

me too!

Any of you guys wanna explain to me why that was the best song of the year?

maybe they didn't hear the 50 other superior R&B singles that came out this year?

I find "Single Ladies" kind of noxious, tbh.

i like lollipop more than a milli, still

Hip Hop Connection's top 40 of the year

40. Sway - The Signature
39. DPF - It'll Never Catch On
38. Triple Darkness - Anathema
37. Vast Aire - Deuces Wild
36. The Cool Kids - The Bake Sale
35. Dagha - The Divorce
34. Santogold - Santogold
33. Sadat X - Generation X
32. Foreign Exchange - Leave It All Behind
31. Termanology - Politics As Usual
30. Kidz In The Hall - The In Crowd
29. People Under The Stairs - Fun DMC
28. DJ Revolution - King Of The Decks
27. Nappy Roots - The Humdinger
26. Blak Twang - Speaking From Experience
25. Atmosphere - When Life Gives You Lemons, You Paint That Shit Gold
24. Guilty Simpson - Ode To The Ghetto
23. Jake One - White Van Music
22. The Bug - London Zoo
21. Flying Lotus - Los Angeles
20. The Game - LAX
19. Pete Rock - NY's Finest
18. NERD - Seeing Sounds
17. Nas - Untitled
16. Kashmere - Raiders of the Lost Archives
15. Prodigy - HNIC 2
14. Young Jeezy - The Recession
13. Baby J - Baby Food
12. The Roots - Rising Down
11. Lil Wayne - Tha Carter III
10. Black Milk - The Tronic
9. Large Professor - Main Source
8. Elzhi - The Preface
7. Sir Smurf Lil - A New Bloodline
6. Fat Ray & Black Milk - The Set Up
5. ABN - It Is What It Is
4. EMC - The Show
3. Million Dan - Spektrum
2. The P Brothers - The Gas
1. Roots Manuva - Slime and Reason

voting for triple darkness!! propz