Digital Underground: C/D?

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maybe it has the og 'freaks of the industry' or something? the freaks 12" i have has both the cd one & one that heavily samples the first part of 'love hangover'

timbo slice (D-40), Saturday, 2 April 2011 20:58 (thirteen years ago) link

Dropping this off the CD was criminal:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pw5OdbMuwU

I assume it was for running time. Could you put 80 minutes on a cd in 1989? Shame it hasn't been rectified, but deluxe remasters are still rare in hip hop.

The other dropped cuts are "Sound of the Underground" and "Tribute to the Early Days"

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 2 April 2011 21:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Yep Yep, appears to have 3 extra tracks and and unedited version of 'Gutfest 89'

MaresNest, Saturday, 2 April 2011 21:03 (thirteen years ago) link

From an Amazon review:

This CD does not contain all of the songs from the original album.

Another reviewer mentioned that the original casette of Sex Packets had three extra songs and a full version of "Gutfest." Well, if you just want "The Humpty Dance" then this CD is fine. But know that if you're getting this current version of Sex Packets, you aren't getting the real thing. Some of the songs missing are fantastic and superior to some of the tracks which do remain on the CD. Also, the missing complete 8 minute version of "Gutfest" explains more about its concept in fuller scope and allows the groove to set in better - it was a funky highlight on the cassette issue, but here it seems irrelevant and awkward.

If I'd realized the CD was missing the original songs and sequencing, I wouldn't have paid for it, I would have just downloaded the tracks. I advise you to do the same, and wait for someone to acquire Tommy Boy=(now defunt)'s original version to reissue as the whole album in its entirety.

That said, "Humpty Dance" is one of the funniest, wittiest songs ever, as well as extremely funky. "Dowutchalike" is equally funky.

The "Sex Packets" theme of the rest of the album is okay, a kind of juvenile attempt at creating a George Clinton-like concept, but overall it's just sort of silly, unexceptional joke and nothing more. And not until the bouncy "Packet Man," built around a Fred Wesley sample, does the concept really do anything musically entertaining, making it all worthwhile.

Several songs are missing from the mix, as I've said. I remember one called "Hip Hop Doll" and my one of personal favorites "Tribute to the Early Days."

As it stands, 4 stars. But the complete version of the original cassette tape, if you ever can find it, is worth 5.

MaresNest, Saturday, 2 April 2011 21:06 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, the LP didn't have all the cassette tracks either (or even a short version of Gutfest), I didn't hear them until a few years ago off some mp3 blog. bless you, some mp3 blog

Neo Tony (sic), Sunday, 3 April 2011 00:33 (thirteen years ago) link

two months pass...

Excellent synopsis of The Humpty Dance here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humpty_Dance

The classic Regulate synopsis was taken down last autumn, inspiring this excellent retort: "Active banana is a humorless idiot and should stop ruining funny, informative articles in non-serious subjects. Getting laid/smoking marijuana might also ease his anal-retentive tendencies." Wikipedia got beef.

Strictly vote-splitting (DL), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 09:46 (twelve years ago) link

Despite the fact Mr. Hump is by most standards not a very attractive man he still manages to find himself in situations where women allow him to rummage around in their trousers

lots of janitors have something to say (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 17:33 (twelve years ago) link

sex packets (cassette version) has finished downloading

And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 21:26 (twelve years ago) link

very happy that control + F yielded no "dud"

the beta banned (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 21:33 (twelve years ago) link

nine years pass...

Shock G passed away.

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 23 April 2021 00:50 (three years ago) link

Fucking fuck THIS.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 23 April 2021 00:52 (three years ago) link

Yeah I’m shaken up. I’ve long admired him.

afriendlypioneer, Friday, 23 April 2021 00:58 (three years ago) link

Owned Sex Packets on cassette in 1990, haven't listened to it in more than 25 years...but "The Humpty Dance" still pops into my head first thing in the morning once a week at least. These guys really were like no one else out there — Shock G's influences were obvious, but he was a for-real visionary.

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 23 April 2021 01:02 (three years ago) link

Just that first album alone is all over the place in the best way. I mean, MC Blowfish

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ru7RVQs3P6o

Ned Raggett, Friday, 23 April 2021 01:05 (three years ago) link

Sons of the P is one of my favorite albums ever. This is devastating news.

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 23 April 2021 01:06 (three years ago) link

If this is still there it should become a shrine.

https://oaklandnorth.net/2012/08/31/giant-head-prop-from-digital-underground-tour-stored-in-east-oakland-parking-garage/

Ned Raggett, Friday, 23 April 2021 01:09 (three years ago) link

RISOTP

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Friday, 23 April 2021 01:15 (three years ago) link

RIP what a talent

r-h-y-m-i-n on the funk forever

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 23 April 2021 01:15 (three years ago) link

spoke to my people & the words are: Greg wouldn’t want us crying for him. he would want us to toast & have joy. Greg was in pain he is now in that better place. my words are: but we were all kids together. so i’m crying for him. crying for all of it #SHOCKG rest in peace 🙏🏽 pic.twitter.com/jKEDBklehC

— Danyel Smith (@danamo) April 23, 2021

Ned Raggett, Friday, 23 April 2021 01:36 (three years ago) link

great to remember MC Blowfish, what an amazing weirdo

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 23 April 2021 01:46 (three years ago) link

i don't think it can be overstated how good 'sex packets' sounds, the bass on that record is fucking seismic

voodoo chili, Friday, 23 April 2021 02:05 (three years ago) link

yeah listening to freaks of the industry rn, so huge

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 23 April 2021 02:07 (three years ago) link

RIP, was hoping this wasn't true

swing out sister: live in new donk city (geoffreyess), Friday, 23 April 2021 02:23 (three years ago) link

kudos again to Aaron for finding & writing about the head

swing out sister: live in new donk city (geoffreyess), Friday, 23 April 2021 02:25 (three years ago) link

Blasting this in the garage. Neighbors gonna hear it and get to humpin’.

Cow_Art, Friday, 23 April 2021 02:28 (three years ago) link

Shock G was a multi-styled, flexible rapper w/ a butter-smooth voice, and a fantastic, funky, distinctively creative producer. Humpty Hump was the greatest comedy sidekick in hip-hop, ever. The Piano Man one of the best keyboard players in rap. Gregory Jacobs wrote inventive, hilarious, joyous songs. Rackadelic's art conveyed the oft-goofy nature of the music inside, and echoed the spirit of reggae sleeves, P-Funk and Schoolly D. Celebratory dances to all 5, and pour one in for MC Blowfish.

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Friday, 23 April 2021 02:29 (three years ago) link

otm

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 23 April 2021 02:35 (three years ago) link

Damn. Was just listening to sex packets the other day while vacuuming. He was a really talented guy, but just a natural heir to p-funk (more so than dr dre actually), he wasnt even trying. Also, shock g helped put saafir on so for that he deserves credit. Strangely one of the recent mentions of DU i heard was in a Louis theroux interview with riz Ahmed. This is just really weird tbh. He wasnt even old.

candyman, Friday, 23 April 2021 05:16 (three years ago) link

The guy who made underwater rhymes and gave so much joy deserves longer on this planet.

candyman, Friday, 23 April 2021 05:17 (three years ago) link

He wasnt even old.

DMX was 50, Black Rob was 52, Shock 57, all gone in one week. Burn police stations until universal healthcare results.

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Friday, 23 April 2021 05:49 (three years ago) link

Never mind wanting to be prince or bootsy, dre3000 wanted to be shock g.

candyman, Friday, 23 April 2021 06:07 (three years ago) link

Aw man.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 23 April 2021 06:20 (three years ago) link

aw that sucks

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 23 April 2021 10:10 (three years ago) link

Sex Packets was MASSIVE for me - that (and the Groove is In The Heart video) got 15 year old me obsessed with trying to track down and actually hear George Clinton and Bootsy Collins records which was next to impossible in my super white middle-of-nowhere town in 1990. Underwater Rimes was a classic 'get stoned with my cousin and listen to music' track, and Humpty Dance is easily a top ten hip-hop track for me. I'll never see a Burger King and not immediately get it stuck in my head.

One of my favorite bits was a documentary on copyright and sampling that was on PBS a while ago - Steve Albini was in it bitching about sampling being lazy and not being art or music and how people who can't play music do it to steal from actual musicians, then they cut to a clip of Shock G playing the keyboards and talking about how shitty it is when painters think photographers aren't artists.

joygoat, Friday, 23 April 2021 12:35 (three years ago) link

finally listened to sex packets and sons of p last year when i was listening to a lot of tupac.... really amazing records. this sucks

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 23 April 2021 13:11 (three years ago) link

This sucks. "Kiss You Back" was one of the first songs I ever taped off the radio. Somebody needs to release "Nothing But Trouble" on Blu-Ray ASAP.

Judi Dench's Human Hand (methanietanner), Friday, 23 April 2021 13:18 (three years ago) link

I got cassettes of Sex Packets and Public Enemy's Fear of a Black Planet in the same batch of 13 (or whatever it was) cassettes from columbia house when I was 12-13. I listened to those two albums over and over again. They were my first musical obsession.

silverfish, Friday, 23 April 2021 13:37 (three years ago) link

Yeah same. Digital Underground were my favourite group when I was 10/11. I used to tape songs off the radio and turn them into mixtapes... "Same Song" and "Do You Really Want Me?" were mainstays

zaddy’s home (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, 23 April 2021 13:44 (three years ago) link

I love the use of Herbie Hancock here. Tupac on fire too imo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6mx3feZLF8

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 23 April 2021 14:17 (three years ago) link

Was seeing twitter praise for his contributions to Tupac record. I need to dig into that.

curmudgeon, Friday, 23 April 2021 14:31 (three years ago) link

He produced the best 2pac song: so many tears

i was too much listening to your accent (Spottie), Friday, 23 April 2021 14:35 (three years ago) link

and the other best 2pac song "fuck the world"

voodoo chili, Friday, 23 April 2021 14:37 (three years ago) link

just kidding

voodoo chili, Friday, 23 April 2021 14:38 (three years ago) link

it is pretty good beyond that first verse tho

voodoo chili, Friday, 23 April 2021 14:38 (three years ago) link

Damn. Fiona Apple just hit & told me this cool story about her pushing a cart in the Home Depot parking lot, & saw Shock G (97) & both were mutual fans (DU was her 1st rap purchase/He would spin “Never Is A Promise”at gigs) they would email/exchange lyrics to each other. 😥

— B.R.O.theR. ?uestion (@questlove) April 23, 2021

Ned Raggett, Friday, 23 April 2021 15:06 (three years ago) link

Shock G was part of the era to me as a child that rap stars were more like super heroes. It holds a dear place in my heart. The way it was packaged, introduced , & the way imagination/aliases/characters were valued. We lost that later on in the game. Rest In Peace Legend.

— Statik Selektah (@StatikSelekt) April 23, 2021

candyman, Friday, 23 April 2021 15:45 (three years ago) link

RIP, Sex Packets was such a key album for me and my friends back in the early years of high school. The sense of humor and playfulness was really key and kept us coming back. For all the rappers and producers that were sampling P-Funk back then, I can only think of a handful that were as good at these guys at capturing the essence of Clinton's world-building and playfully inhabiting characters.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 23 April 2021 15:50 (three years ago) link

damn sic bringin the knowledge like nardwuar

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 25 April 2021 11:45 (two years ago) link

Thanks sic! My friend literally found that as an unlabeled tape in a box.

He also has an early demo of Tupac's Changes that he found in the same box. Pretty sick.

it's like edging for your mind (the table is the table), Sunday, 25 April 2021 15:01 (two years ago) link

Latter one is definitely and unmistakably Pac, btw.

it's like edging for your mind (the table is the table), Sunday, 25 April 2021 15:02 (two years ago) link

The cassette of Sex Packets had a couple of exclusive (and a couple more exclusive-ish) tracks, including this one by Fuze & Money alone - absolutely sounds in the same style as that demo tape, right down to ending the song by just shouting out other members of Digital Underground for ages.

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Tuesday, 27 April 2021 10:47 (two years ago) link

Great obit, with illuminating biographical details:

https://www.vulture.com/article/obituary-shock-g-digital-underground.html

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Wednesday, 28 April 2021 22:49 (two years ago) link

Bootsy gave a memorial statement to Rolling Stone, which they excerpted and interjected:

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/bootsy-collins-digital-underground-shock-g-tribute-1160570/

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Saturday, 1 May 2021 08:45 (two years ago) link

That vulture piece is excellent.
Played by 12" of humpty dance yesterday and was shocked at how huge that bass is.

candyman, Saturday, 1 May 2021 13:49 (two years ago) link

my buddy treblefree located a copy of and uploaded the "ultragroove" remix of 'no nose job' for your listening pleasures.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 7 May 2021 22:54 (two years ago) link

eight months pass...

Looks like there’s Shock G solo piano on the way:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4WOOUd1Msg

deep luminous trombone (Eazy), Friday, 4 February 2022 17:26 (two years ago) link


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