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I don't think people "swarmed out," though. "You Made Me Realise" (eventually) stopped the moshers, outlasted the bird-flippers, and thinned the crowd a little, but people stayed, maybe to prove how bad-ass they were.

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Thursday, 25 January 2007 02:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Another yes vote for Loveless. Really moves.

― Make a Beck Song #1 (M Matos), Thursday, 25 January 2007 02:58 (seventeen years ago) link

I tried to buy Court and Spark the other day, but the bookstore said it wasn't out yet...?

I'm getting a promo copy, so it should be out soon.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 25 January 2007 03:07 (seventeen years ago) link

OK, I am ordering the LOVELESS too. McGonigal is always worth a go.

― Saxby D. Elder (Saxby D. Elder), Thursday, 25 January 2007 04:03 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.homerize.com/_framegrabs/1F19/fg_406.jpg

"You gotta buy the Loveless 33 1/3, Jimmy. Do it for me....McGonigal!"

― The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Thursday, 25 January 2007 04:07 (seventeen years ago) link

I know I stayed because I LOVED them -- hell, putting myself through YMMR all those times was a joy. However, in retrospect I must say, in my best old man voice: Damn. They were loud.

So, when's Geeta's ENO book coming?

― Jay Vee's Return (Manon_69), Thursday, 25 January 2007 06:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Damn. They were loud.

Precisely why I loved 'em. Among other things. As I mutter about in Marooned, the version of YMMV at The Final Show was 35 minutes long.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 25 January 2007 06:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I like the "Low" book a lot. Really want ot check out the loveless book, but it looks like i'll be waiting till MARCH before it comes to Canada (boo!). Also excited for the Eno and the DAYDREAM NATION!!!

― shudder (shudder), Thursday, 25 January 2007 07:35 (seventeen years ago) link

when do the ENO and THROBBING GRISTLE ones come out?

― T. Weiss (Timmy), Thursday, 25 January 2007 08:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Court & Spark book is out now. Seattle shop Sonic Boom has copies, anyway.

― Dave Segal (Da ve Segal), Thursday, 25 January 2007 08:13 (seventeen years ago) link

I bought the ABBA, REM, Neutral Milk and DJ Shadow books the other day - and I am unemployed so it cost a lot of money for me. Really enjoying the NMH book at the moment and can't wait to get stuck into ABBA.

― wogan lenin (dog latin), Thursday, 25 January 2007 13:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Good shit, Matos. Kept me up a few nights.

― The Reverend Rodney J. Greene in a DIE BLIPSTER SCUM! tee (R. J. Greene), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 00:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I think I've mentioned elsewhere that my wife and I have decided the Ritz show (Pavement and Superchunk opening!) counts as our first date, since it was the first time we were in the same room at the same time... although we didn't actually meet for almost seven years after that.

I love the idea of referring to "You Made Me Realise" as YMMV.

― Douglas (Douglas), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 00:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Hahaha. Very apt.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 00:47 (seventeen years ago) link

I have long been tempted to put together a census of all people who were at that show. It was, among other things, the concert at which I turned 21.

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 02:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I would love to see one of these on Pink Flag.

― ersatz (ersatz), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 15:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Is it bad form to ask if anyone here is submitting a proposal for the new batch?

― Tiki Theater Xymposium (Bent Over at the Arclight), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 16:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Not at all. I am.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 16:22 (seventeen years ago) link

I'd really like a Only Built for Cuban Linx book. Somebody should do it

― rizzx (Rizz), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 16:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Out of 60 some books, I count A Tribe Called Quest, the Beastie Boys and DJ Shadow as the only rap-related ones so far.

― curmudgeon (DC Steve), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 16:56 (seventeen years ago) link

I have pitched a rap-related one for this round: The Geto Boys' self-titled album on Def American.

― Tiki Theater Xymposium (Bent Over at the Arclight), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 17:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm hopefully submitting a pitch, but it's for a fairly recent screamo/hardcore album. So I'm kinda relying on my argument being compelling.

― Mordechai Shinefield (Mordy), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 17:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Which album?

― Tiki Theater Xymposium (Bent Over at the Arclight), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 17:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Wait. The ATCQ one is People's Instinctive Travels? Somebody done fucked up.

I'm all for a Cuban Linx book.

― The Reverend Rodney J. Greene in a DIE BLIPSTER SCUM! tee (R. J. Greene), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 23:05 (seventeen years ago) link

I would kill to know more about Vision Creation Newsun! Has there even been a proper book done?

― UART variations (ex machina), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 23:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Pink Flag and Entertainment!(!) Though I dare say Simon Reynolds ruined it for everyone.

― Kate Silver (Kate Silver), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 23:18 (seventeen years ago) link

"I'd really like a Only Built for Cuban Linx book. Somebody should do it"

Didn't they just do an insanely detailed feature in XXL last year?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 23:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Yep.

― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Thursday, 1 February 2007 00:07 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm gonna pitch one too. Wish me luck everybody!

― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Thursday, 1 February 2007 00:12 (seventeen years ago) link

I hope for more non-anglocentric albums next go around.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 1 February 2007 00:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I WAS AT THAT RITZ SHOW.

Me too. I remember the endless chord at the end of the MBV show. But what struck me most was the annoyingness of Gary Young.

― kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Thursday, 1 February 2007 00:43 (seventeen years ago) link

I would kill to know more about Vision Creation Newsun! Has there even been a proper book done?

-- UART variations (jon@w

Ditto!

― etc (esskay), Thursday, 1 February 2007 00:52 (seventeen years ago) link

also: Tim Finney plz to write Discovery/Since I Left You!

― etc (esskay), Thursday, 1 February 2007 00:53 (seventeen years ago) link

I pitched Since I Left You last year and was rejected. :(

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Thursday, 1 February 2007 02:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Didn't they just do an insanely detailed feature in XXL last year?

oh shoot! i cant get that here in holland, if somebody has it and wants to scan it? please!?

― Joris (rizzx), Thursday, 1 February 2007 09:46 (seventeen years ago) link

I pitched Since I Left You last year and was rejected. :(

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 1 February 2007 10:21 (seventeen years ago) link

>I hope for more non-anglocentric albums next go around.
-- Alex in SF (clobberthesauru...), February 1st, 2007.

(We'll see. We have to crunch the numbers and determine if any of that rap or foreign stuff can sell the kind of numbers that Neutral Milk Hotel has. How the heck will we market it--what book review journals can we get them in--what brick and mortar and online sites will take that stuff)

― curmudgeon (DC Steve), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:07 (seventeen years ago) link

*blink* Okay, I honestly didn't know you were involved with this as well, curmudgeon! (Then again I've only ever talked with David B.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:08 (seventeen years ago) link

he might be kidding.

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:10 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm the psychic accountant who advises David (or just interprets his blog postings) :)

― curmudgeon (DC Steve), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Mystic!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:14 (seventeen years ago) link

"We have to crunch the numbers and determine if any of that rap or foreign stuff can sell the kind of numbers that Neutral Milk Hotel has."

Yeah I understand the rationale and I'm glad the series exists and sells as well as it does. It's just a personal preference.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:20 (seventeen years ago) link

It is a sad truth that rap writing doesn't sell as well as rock writing.

The worst-selling Spin cover of all time? OutKast.

― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Jokes aside, I'm trying to grasp the reasons for the fact that the series is so not multicultural. But I guess that will just turn this thread into one of those mocked pazz & jop ones ('why do I have to vote for a more than one rap record to prove I'm not a racist') or Ethan will mock me for including a white rocker in my JnP singles ballot while advocating for more rap and international music. Others will just say put up or shut up and submit some ideas or find another publisher (alas, my work and family schedule does not allow me time for such lengthy efforts) and some will just say, hey, it's just a matter of economics and class social structure regarding which books will sell. Just deal with it.

― curmudgeon (DC Steve), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:26 (seventeen years ago) link

xpost Less than this one?

http://collectorama.murderhorn.com/pictures/promos/13small.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:27 (seventeen years ago) link

x-post

If you market it right, the buyers will come (to paraphrase Field of Dreams), I would like to believe. It might take a little more work though.

― curmudgeon (DC Steve), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Did Jeff Chang and Nelson George have trouble with publishers telling them their books would not likely sell?

― curmudgeon (DC Steve), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:45 (seventeen years ago) link

...and Egotrip and David Toop...

Well, the Stevie Wonder book is now out (and it is Black History month, maybe that will help in getting sales)

― curmudgeon (DC Steve), Thursday, 1 February 2007 21:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Christopher/Whiney, what do you think of the above questions/comments?

― curmudgeon (DC Steve), Friday, 2 February 2007 05:47 (seventeen years ago) link

:::crickets:::

― Welcome to the Pazz and Jop poll. (M Matos), Friday, 2 February 2007 09:01 (seventeen years ago) link

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