More Dave Sim Batshittery.

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This is totally my "favorite" part of Tangent:

To me, taking it as a given that reason cannot prevail in any argument with emotion, there must come a point - with women and children - where verbal discipline has to be asserted, and if verbal discipline proves insufficient, that physical discipline be introduced. Women and children have soft, cushy buttocks which are, nonetheless, shot through with reasonably sensitive nerve endings.

I believe that those buttocks are there for a very specific purpose intended by their Creator.

Like much of the screed, it's more entertaining if you try to imagine it being narrated with tremendous gravitas by James Earl Jones.

Laura H. (laurah), Monday, 29 August 2005 14:30 (fourteen years ago) link

Sim's priapic fisticuffs challenge to Smith can be found here.

Laura H. (laurah), Monday, 29 August 2005 14:41 (fourteen years ago) link

i think i actually have a book signed by Sim, somewhere. I think it was a #0 or something. some incidental story that took place between arcs. had a black cover.

ah, my days of comic con attdending.

kingfish 'doublescoop' moose tracks (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 05:39 (fourteen years ago) link

#0 reprinted #51 (between High Society and Church & State), the double issue 112/113 (between C&S and Jaka's Story) and #137 and most of #138 (a post-Jaka comedy interlude that transitioned into a coda - the coda was in the collection.

Off the top of my head, folks.

kit brash (kit brash), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 08:11 (fourteen years ago) link

Let's face it though, he's right.

YHWH (Groke), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 16:11 (fourteen years ago) link

That God sent the Beatles to battle Peter, Paul and Mary for musical dominance? Shiiiit. I just don't feel ready to accept that-- but maybe that's the Void talking.

Ooo! Puppies!

Laura H. (laurah), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 19:37 (fourteen years ago) link

Dave's 2004 letter to me starts on page 131. I'm just glad the phrase "John Lennon died when he let Brian Epstein put his band in matching faggy suits" has finally seen the published light of day, it's too good to slide into obscurity.

Chuck, who are you IRL? Page numbers will do.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:44 (fourteen years ago) link

I do believe that is a sentence.

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 20:56 (fourteen years ago) link

"John Lennon died when he let Brian Epstein put his band in matching faggy suits."

I've been trying to drop that into conversation ever since you first mentioned it.

My real name in real life is Pau1 15aac5.


Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 21:24 (fourteen years ago) link

when i think about the sim/smith bustup i kind of imagine it taking place between cerebus and fone bone, the former issuing his 1500-word challenge (in tiny, tiny print) in a huge, beautifully drawn splash page and then a little panel way down at the bottom with fone looking exasperated and going "OH JEEZ!!!!!!!!"

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 05:48 (fourteen years ago) link

four months pass...
The Guardian exclusively reveals today that Lenny Henry "loves comics and has been reading the Cerebus books sine 1977. Dave Sim came to my birthday party as a surprise once." Finally, the meeting of the minds.

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 12:25 (thirteen years ago) link

My favourite Sim-related story of last year.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 12:36 (thirteen years ago) link

“Hmm,” Chris said. “I remember his girlfriend left him in the Eighties and he really took that hard.”

“Yes,” I said, “if you read his comics, you can sort of get that impression.”

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 12:53 (thirteen years ago) link

If only Dave and Deni's firsthand accounts both at the time and subsequently supported this theory, that guy would be insightful!

Lots of Sim/Henry references in Collected Letters 2004, incidentally.

kit brash (kit brash), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 14:04 (thirteen years ago) link

my friend MH said: "L.henrys female void = larger than average"

Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 21:10 (thirteen years ago) link

one is beginning to kind of suspect cerebus was originally plotted by his wife

tom west (thomp), Thursday, 12 January 2006 04:02 (thirteen years ago) link

two months pass...

c(''c) (Leee), Sunday, 2 April 2006 18:51 (thirteen years ago) link

Operation Enduring Dave Sim

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Sunday, 2 April 2006 19:41 (thirteen years ago) link

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b92/paulisaacs/Simcopy.jpg

Convincing!

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Sunday, 2 April 2006 20:54 (thirteen years ago) link

hahahaha

pixel farmer (Rock Hardy), Sunday, 2 April 2006 21:03 (thirteen years ago) link

Superb.

chap who would dare to be a stone cold thug (chap), Sunday, 2 April 2006 21:29 (thirteen years ago) link

he looks face-lifted.

Dan I. (Dan I.), Sunday, 2 April 2006 22:25 (thirteen years ago) link

I have it on very good authority (some bloke that worked in the comic shop years ago) that he had to have reconstructive surgery on his nose in the eighties because of too much coke.

chap who would dare to be a stone cold thug (chap), Sunday, 2 April 2006 22:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Comic Shop Guy is good authority?

If it's true, that makes 6000 on-schedule pages an even more amazing feat.

pixel farmer (Rock Hardy), Sunday, 2 April 2006 22:58 (thirteen years ago) link

That's weird, I totally meant to write 'very dubious authority'. I suspect it's bullshit.

chap who would dare to be a stone cold thug (chap), Monday, 3 April 2006 00:04 (thirteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
DOUG WOLK I JUST READ DAVE SIM SAY THAT YOU'RE A PRETEND FEMINIST

shredding repis on the gnar gnar rad (chaki), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 01:43 (thirteen years ago) link

This is his response in Following Cerebus to the article I did in The Believer? Yeah. Sigh.

Douglas (Douglas), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 03:59 (thirteen years ago) link

yah i can copy it if you want? wtf is that book anyway i just found it randomly at a shop. its just a bunch of people kissing his ass?

shredding repis on the gnar gnar rad (chaki), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 04:15 (thirteen years ago) link

sometimes it's a fascinating discussion about indie comics/comic writing. but mostly asskissery.

the unbearable lightness of peeing (orion), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 04:19 (thirteen years ago) link

No, no, I've got a copy already, thanks...

Douglas (Douglas), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 05:25 (thirteen years ago) link

I kind of jealous you've been hated on by Sim ('pretend feminist' - that's bad right?). Probably means you're sane.

chap who would dare to be a stone cold thug (chap), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 10:26 (thirteen years ago) link

I'm dissed by Sim somehwere in his collected mentallism book, it's quite easy Joe -- you should try too

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 14:15 (thirteen years ago) link

He calls me a "confirmed atheist" and imagines me agonizing over which wine to order with dinner at delicate snobbish Portland restaurants, both of which are pretty funny to anyone who knows me.

Douglas (Douglas), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 14:48 (thirteen years ago) link

cuz we know you're a Carlo Rossi man.

the unbearable lightness of peeing (orion), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 14:57 (thirteen years ago) link

To be honest, there was no slur specifically directed at me, it was more of a generalised "journalist are untrustworthy, lying scum -- why would i, dave sim, need publicity?" type-comment that prefaced his (faxed) answers to my questions.

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 15:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Wait, if Sim thinks that Douglas is a fake feminist, does this imply that on some level he thinks Douglas is just like him, but won't admit it in public or something? What's the context?

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 18:27 (thirteen years ago) link

It's hard to explain, because he's grasping so hard for something to be indignant about, but I gather that he doesn't see how somebody can be both an admirer of his work and not at all down with his agenda.

Douglas (Douglas), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 18:43 (thirteen years ago) link

Dave is fascinating, but it's sort of circuitous and pointless (albeit fascinating) to wonder about what his "feelings" are. You need a ball of string to find your way back out.

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 18:47 (thirteen years ago) link

i think that sim was saying that doug couldnt get his complimentary article PUBLISHED unless he pretended he was a feminist!!

shredding repis on the gnar gnar rad (chaki), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 19:17 (thirteen years ago) link

Isn't Mr Sim against the whole idea of 'feelings' as opposed to MANLY MANLY THORTS?

Vic F (Vic Fluro), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 20:03 (thirteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70797

Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 14:03 (thirteen years ago) link

WTF WHY IS EVERYONE IN THAT THREAD LIKE "WOAH I WISH I COULD GO TO THAT" WTF?!?!?

city of gyros (chaki), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 16:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Because it's on Newsarama, the house of empty platitudes.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 16:38 (thirteen years ago) link

DAVE SIM TO READ INGREDIENTS LIST FROM EVERY FOOD PRODUCT IN HIS KITCHEN

I am so totally there, dude.

Deric W. Haircare (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 16:54 (thirteen years ago) link

I hope he reads out Cerebus 289/290 instead.

chap who would dare to be a nerd, not a geek (chap), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 16:55 (thirteen years ago) link

I like "No Preaching, just the scripture."

But, uh, Dave is not the most engrossing of live speakers.

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 17:06 (thirteen years ago) link

Dave Sim fanboys in having douchebaggy taste non-shocker

Dan (Come On Now) Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 17:36 (thirteen years ago) link

Are you saying those bible passages are douchebaggy choices or that Dave Sim is himself douchebaggy (I keep thinking douchebuggy, like a dunebuggy only for douches instead of dunes) or merely that, oh, I give up.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 17:40 (thirteen years ago) link

I am saying that if you are chomping at the bit to go see Dave Sim read Bible passages, you might have the tastes of a douchebag.

Dan (For Douches Instead Of Dunes????) Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 17:50 (thirteen years ago) link

Did you mean: douchebaggery


Your search - douchebuggy - did not match any documents

Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 17:53 (thirteen years ago) link

xp what should they be called, Simbos?

Nhex, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 16:51 (five years ago) link

"bimbos"?

not referring to Deni Loubert tbc

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 16:56 (five years ago) link

"bimbos"?

― Look at this joke I've recognised, do you recognise it as well? (forksclovetofu)

Voids.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 17:09 (five years ago) link

lol

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 17:50 (five years ago) link

forks, it's not for the public prints, but i will tell you in person the next time i visit new york!

was also told - second-hand - that another very well known mainstream comics writer bought a jet out of the royalties they earned - true or not, the point is that there was an awful lot of cash sloshing around comics in the 1980s. i think the irony is is that these days, with the royalty system all but defunct, you really have to own your work - and sell it to TV/movies - to earn similar riches. so dave sim was basically...right?

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 17:54 (five years ago) link

oh man

http://www.cerebusfangirl.com/artists/nftp/

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 22:46 (five years ago) link

not referring to Deni Loubert tbc

no, you're referring to Dawn Nash ("Zee")

rage against martin sheen (sic), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 23:57 (five years ago) link

Aside from the pleasures of that kind of lifestyle, think Sim also wanted to show other comics people the riches they could earn from self-publishing

Also this was not necessarily a "lifestyle" - conventions weren't a 40-times-ayear proposition in the 80s because the distribution system worked, his expenses at home were probably minimal: he booked car services in other cities, but that would get him from interview to interview to store signing to hotel to convention and be a business expense, and he doesn't drive, so at home got/gets around by walking; when he and Ger went to Hawaii for a week and spent it drawing pages for the book on the balcony of their hotel, that would also likely be written off.

rage against martin sheen (sic), Thursday, 19 June 2014 04:52 (five years ago) link

NFTP from 74 mentions Skidmore by name. Something in my eye.

Rabona not glue (aldo), Thursday, 19 June 2014 08:29 (five years ago) link

Love how ILC springs to life whenever Dave's insanity is brought up.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 19 June 2014 12:54 (five years ago) link

two years pass...

I wonder what Dave Sim thinks of Donald Trump.

chap, Monday, 27 February 2017 22:35 (two years ago) link

well there's an alarming thought

dave is kinda like a proto-redpiller i guess. who knows, maybe cerebus could be enjoy a glorious revival in alt-right circles soon

massive ghost dumps (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 27 February 2017 23:04 (two years ago) link

https://www.overthinkingit.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/cerebus_066_throwing_babies2.jpg

this pic^^^ was used to comment on a baby-related incident during the campaign: question is, sim would vote for the aardvark?

mark s, Monday, 27 February 2017 23:47 (two years ago) link

I thumbed through Cerebus in Hell at the shop the other day. it was sad.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 28 February 2017 00:21 (two years ago) link

It's more cogent that parts of Latter Days! Alas without being good.

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 28 February 2017 00:25 (two years ago) link

maybe cerebus could be enjoy a glorious revival in alt-right circles soon

I... can totally imagine this.

chap, Tuesday, 28 February 2017 13:03 (two years ago) link

i'd never thought about it before i wrote that tbh but if alt-righters can force themselves to read mencius moldbug then cerebus will seem like a cool refreshment by comparison

massive ghost dumps (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 28 February 2017 13:48 (two years ago) link

The more I think about it, the more I'm convinced Sim was alt-right 25 years early. All boxes ticked.

chap, Tuesday, 28 February 2017 14:07 (two years ago) link

He's probably drifted away from being pigeonholed as such more recently thanks to his affinity with the other two big Abrahamic religions.

chap, Tuesday, 28 February 2017 14:09 (two years ago) link

read a couple blogs and he seems to be amused by trump rather than a devout follower

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 28 February 2017 15:39 (two years ago) link

he's proto-alt-right to roughly the same degree as DEVO

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 28 February 2017 16:00 (two years ago) link

that's going a little too easy on him shakes

Cognition (Remix) (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 28 February 2017 16:23 (two years ago) link

ha I thought it was being hard on DEVO tbh

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 28 February 2017 16:28 (two years ago) link

that too

Cognition (Remix) (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 28 February 2017 16:33 (two years ago) link

I was browsing for dumb Dave things and instead found this - what an amazing cover.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-kmwlU7KhnHc/U6Rf7F3dufI/AAAAAAAAMSA/IDTFkZdHIOo/s1600/cerebus_053.jpg

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 28 February 2017 23:24 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

So, after the less than successful (either financially or artistically) Cerebus In Hell, Dave has announced an extension of his reprint/paste-in line with Batvark as the launch title. "He's comics' most notorious homophobe!" This cannot end well.The plan is that there'll be a CiH one-shot on the final Wednesday of every month, and follows the conclusion of the CiH 'plot' that "of course you didn't think the Gustav Dore Hell is the only one, do you?".

I am still doing the Archive Print series, which is tremendous stuff but isn't creating much actual income for Dave due to the the unpredictable nature of release - 3 years on and there have only been 6 sets of the "quarterly" edition. Latest one is delayed indefinitely because the third (fourth?) collaborator on the prints has just left, leaving nobody to do the stuff Dave doesn't like computers. There's also an idea about a more affordable version of the prints being called the Postage Stamp Collection but my head says this is dead as a concept now. SDoAR is plodding on, largely supported by Patreon but I don't know about progress because updates are locked to donors. And I'm not at that stage yet.

Mud... Jam... Failure... (aldo), Wednesday, 24 May 2017 09:41 (two years ago) link


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