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gareth- yeah I liked that track but don't quite see why that seems to be so much better than some of this stuff.

heard 'i cannibali' and its another wonderful 20 mins. Hear the scott walker but not much sesame street, the arrangements are quite something.

ok its great that I'm beginning to get more recommendations here. So Kinski, what is so much better abt 'veruschuka' than the stuff he is primarily known for (morricone has been a hard subject for ilm, check a few of his other threads, usually just see comps and not specifics)?

eleki- yeah, I see what you're saying abt 'effective' soundtracks in movies but they can def work as records, the great is that someone like morricone seemed to squeeze quite a bit in a min or two, he does use that as a strength and that's what makes him to be so good (at least from what I'm hearing so far).

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 8 April 2004 21:49 (twenty years ago) link

That issue of "Veruschka" is not so easy to find anymore, but it had come out again on Right Tempo more recently, which I'm grateful for. Some of my favourites are "Maddalena", "I Basilischi", "Il Grande Silenzio", "Il Clan dei Siciliani", "Uomo da Rispettare", "Battle of Algiers", "Per Le Antiche Scale", "Exorcist 2", "Noi Lazzaroni" and "Investigation of a Citizen Above Suspicion". I find with his music that, if it's difficult somehow at first, I have only to listen to it intently for a couple of weeks and then I will love it.

jazz odysseus, Thursday, 8 April 2004 22:12 (twenty years ago) link

jazz odysseus- are most of those from the 60s and 70s? and if so, would you say the quality dropped during the 80s?

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 8 April 2004 22:20 (twenty years ago) link

They're all from the 60's and '70's - I had just decided to think of 10 I really liked and stop at that, but from the '80's I really like "The Scarlet and the Black", "I Promessi Sposi", "Marco Polo" and "Casualties of War", for examples. In the 90's, I especially like "Notte e Il Momento", "Vite Strozzate", "Tre Colonne in Cronaca", "State of Grace" and "Cacciatori di Navi". I don't think the quality of his writing dropped, but he tends to become less diverse (and less prolific) and more conservative, musically, as you get through the 80's and into the 90's, etc.. I can imagine having less of a giddy feeling about how surprising his arrangements are, etc., but I think his writing is still stunning. I haven't heard "Mission to Mars", so I don't know if I agree with Nicole or not. I'm not so keen on "The Untouchables", but it's very listenable. That "Santa Cecilia" concert CD on Sony (I think) is very good - there's a version of "The Ballad of Sacco and Vanzetti" with Dulce Pontes that might be among my favourite single recordings by him.

jazz odysseus, Thursday, 8 April 2004 22:48 (twenty years ago) link

"City of Joy" didn't strike me as very remarkable (for him), either.

jazz odysseus, Thursday, 8 April 2004 22:51 (twenty years ago) link

i just picked up "Ecce homo" on a whim, from '69. Killer. morricone does morton feldman? he had to have heard him, at least. haunting edda dell'orso hovers, marimba, flute, harp, etc. very very minimal, very wonderful.

Beta (abeta), Friday, 9 April 2004 13:30 (twenty years ago) link

Mondo Morricone. Once upon a time in America.

jadrenos (jadrenos), Friday, 9 April 2004 19:17 (twenty years ago) link

Of his stuff from the 80s and 90s, I love "State of Grace and "the Untouchables". Especially "State of Grace".

And of the Spag stuff, "The Adventurer"....

David Nolan (David N.), Saturday, 10 April 2004 00:06 (twenty years ago) link

I love "The Adventurer" too, but it's not a Western. It's based on J. Conrad's "The Rover".

jazz odysseus, Saturday, 10 April 2004 00:20 (twenty years ago) link

Ahh, I have it on some cheapo Spag comp and could never figure out what movie it was from. Thanks for the info...

David Nolan (David N.), Saturday, 10 April 2004 01:12 (twenty years ago) link

Strangely, the melody for the main theme was used in a horror movie done a couple of years ago and starring Barbara Steele.

jazz odysseus, Saturday, 10 April 2004 01:24 (twenty years ago) link

sorry - not a couple of years AGO, but a couple of years PREVIOUS.

jazz odysseus, Saturday, 10 April 2004 01:25 (twenty years ago) link

I reread my message and thought "Huh - I didn't know there was a new Barbara Steele movie!" I considered trying to rent it.

jazz odysseus, Saturday, 10 April 2004 01:26 (twenty years ago) link

Anyway, if you can get the CD, it's got two unusual scores on it - the horror movie is "Amanti Dall' Oltretomba", which contains piano, trombone, organ, and a lovely and strange concrete-like piece that, in the film, was mixed together with a "Dies Irae" bit - I don't know why it's mixed out in the CD version (or in in the film version), but I've seen that done with other films, too*. The CD also contains "L'Umanoide", done for a late '70's low-budget sci-fi movie with Richard Kiel. I think "L'Umanoide" is one of his oddest scores - I might not have guessed it was his if I heard it without knowing beforehand.

*like all the noisy bits in the "Hatchet for the Honeymoon" soundtrack by Sante Maria Romitelli seemed to be a tape of the same noisy part mixed over the different orchestral cues that you hear on the CD.

jazz odysseus, Saturday, 10 April 2004 01:38 (twenty years ago) link

one year passes...
One thing about the individual soundtracks is that despite literally travelling from mars to venus there's something that holds it all together as records. Maybe its this sense of wonder at how someone can compose with such different styles and kind of, y'know, pull it off. take 'il serpente' from the early 70s - saw this lying on the racks a few weeks ago - the 1st half its earnest strings (w/ella dell'orso on vocals, it think) one minute, church organ the next, march-parades the other, then earnest strings (remix). That's until the second half anyway, where he's playing around, coming up with these wonderful settings of under pressure strings, rubbed/amplified/bowed/miked feedbacked percussion and electronics.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 18:37 (eighteen years ago) link

[crank]

kaija saariaho wd struggle to compose something this good!!!

[/crank]

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 18:41 (eighteen years ago) link

three years pass...

hello
Iam an iranian in Iran some of the people love your film music but thay can not take your music in iranian shopping Iam so like your music of cinema paradiso but Idont provide it in iran may you send this music in my email.

with best rigard

hamid

― hamid ahsani, Tuesday, February 11, 2003 8:54 PM (5 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

8====D ------ ㋡ (max), Sunday, 25 January 2009 23:53 (fifteen years ago) link

this dude is basically the gnarliest

8====D ------ ㋡ (max), Sunday, 25 January 2009 23:54 (fifteen years ago) link

six months pass...

search the score to "two mules for sister sara" (not a bad film, directed by don siegel starring clint eastwood and shirley maclaine). morricone's interpretation of the "title music" is to interpolate odd electronic farts meant to suggest the braying of a donkey alongside a very church-sounding chorus. as usual, much of the rest of the soundtrack is morricone mixing around (in enjoyable if not revelatory ways) the stuff from the main title, and of course the usual pretty mood-setting music. but the best tracks are really impressive and fun, if you're into the more mannered "navajo joe" type morricone western stuff.

amateurist, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 06:41 (fourteen years ago) link

seriously how often do film composers have the cojones to be so audaciously inventive?

amateurist, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 06:42 (fourteen years ago) link

Orca The Killer Whale!!!

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 17:13 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

The Mike Patton-curated comp Crime And Dissonance gathers two discs of Morricone at his most out there. I wish there was 20 volumes of it.

the swagona monologues (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 27 September 2009 20:14 (fourteen years ago) link

Rhino comp is out of print and Rhino is gutting staff #FML

the swagona monologues (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 27 September 2009 20:17 (fourteen years ago) link

I seriously think The Good, The Bad and The Ugly may be the best movie theme ever.

chap, Sunday, 27 September 2009 20:21 (fourteen years ago) link

Although embarrassingly I've never seen the actual film.

chap, Sunday, 27 September 2009 20:21 (fourteen years ago) link

movie is great -- perfect combo of music/imagery/mood

tylerw, Sunday, 27 September 2009 20:22 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...

his Grande Silenzio is worth checking (and widely available on Soulseek) been listening to it all day after seeing the movie recently. snow western!
http://g.virbcdn.com/i/resize_575x575/PageImage-350945-1544049-il_grande_silenzio_1.jpg

Ludo, Tuesday, 16 November 2010 15:32 (thirteen years ago) link

five years pass...

There's a new compilation of vocal tracks out on Ace - too much late era ponderous "pretty girl sings cod-classical" stuff for my taste, but it does include this Amii Stewart track, which is great Yacht Soul imo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5rPfk3zg7w

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 4 November 2016 13:28 (seven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Learned recently that there's a Morricone autobiography! I struggle to think of what that might read like, considering he always seems disinterested in his music outside of the musique concrete stuff.

Speaking of, since he loves that stuff so much why doesn't he spend more of his twilight years doing abrasive music - I'm sure dozens of avante garde directors would kill for a soundtrack from him - instead of all these terrible boring collaborations with opera and easy listening divas?

Score for "Hateful Eight" was great, though.

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 21 November 2016 15:27 (seven years ago) link

It flat out blows me away just how many hours of music Morricone has done. The guy is over 500 soundtracks not even including music done outside his film work. That is just an astounding amount of music.

earlnash, Monday, 21 November 2016 17:39 (seven years ago) link

So much of his non-soundtrack work is so surprising, too: his secret identity as star songwriter and aranger in the 60's Italian Pop scene; the musique concrete stuff he did with Gruppo; a joint album with Chico Buarque!

Just listened to "Controfase", a weird experimental Morricone album issued as a library recording. I don't know much about that kind of music but it hit the spot.

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 21 November 2016 18:23 (seven years ago) link

the musique concrete stuff he did with Gruppo

I would describe that as (electroacoustic) improv rather than musique concrete, I'm not sure he ever produced musique concrete tbh.

The Doug Walters of Crime (Tom D.), Monday, 21 November 2016 18:30 (seven years ago) link

agreed

the Improvisationen record is just breathtaking, so much detail packed into such quiet passages

sleeve, Monday, 21 November 2016 18:34 (seven years ago) link

four months pass...

RIP the mighty Alessandro Alessandroni.

chip n dale recuse rangers (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 28 March 2017 18:56 (seven years ago) link

Very sad. The Cantori Moderni had a lot of jams.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 11:37 (seven years ago) link

RIP ;_;

Bill Teeters (Tom D.), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 11:51 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

Enniotm

ROCK MUSIC (Tom D.), Tuesday, 13 November 2018 19:08 (five years ago) link

before or now?

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 November 2018 19:11 (five years ago) link

Before obv.

ROCK MUSIC (Tom D.), Tuesday, 13 November 2018 19:11 (five years ago) link

Dude has open contempt for the majority of his own soundtrack work and has provided scores for plenty of z-grade sexploitation, I don't really see why anyone would care about his opinions on a director.

I mean don't get me wrong, I love his stuff and think the fact that he wishes he could just be known for his electroacoustic stuff is endearing, but I don't think he really cares about cinema much, in the end.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 12:29 (five years ago) link

that he did let slip of what he really thought of QT off the record will be what I choose to remember!

calzino, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 12:42 (five years ago) link

fwiw he's also already said that, years ago, on the record. Dunno why this occasion went more viral than the last.

https://www.indiewire.com/2013/03/ennio-morricone-says-quentin-tarantino-uses-music-without-coherence-says-he-wont-work-with-him-again-100683/

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 13:27 (five years ago) link

Seems like his reaction has drawn more attention to it than would have otherwise been the case.

mirostones, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 14:13 (five years ago) link

one year passes...

This is officially the worst fucking year of all-time. RIP :(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfjYLNIjugk

Sabre of Paradise (trevor phillips), Monday, 6 July 2020 09:50 (three years ago) link

RIP the Maestro. I've almost certainly listened to more hours of his music than any other music in history and, in fact, right this minute I'm actually waiting delivery of another of his soundtracks.

The Fields o' Fat Henry (Tom D.), Monday, 6 July 2020 11:10 (three years ago) link

I have an amazing Gruppo box - two CDs and a DVD and a nice booklet, packed in a handmade 12" x 12" wooden box (cause there were vinyl LPs in the super ultra deluxe edition). Might need to pull it off the shelf today.

Saw him conduct at Radio City Music Hall about 12-13 years ago, too. A lot of cheese, but when they did "The Ecstasy of Gold" it ruled.

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 6 July 2020 11:22 (three years ago) link

RIP, so many hours listened to and it just hasn't felt like enough.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 6 July 2020 11:32 (three years ago) link

Play "Navajo Joe" imo.

AHHHHH-AH-AHHH-AH-AHHHHH-AH-AHHH-AH-AHHHHHHHH...
EEEEEE-EH-EEEE-EH-EEEEEE-EH-EEEE-EH-EEEEEEEEE...
*insanely heavy twang plod*

gnarled and turbid sinuses (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 13:39 (three years ago) link

i have to amend my POXX btw

La Tenda Rossa/The Red Tent is an inconceivable omission (the side B suite my dear lord)

I guess bump off White Dog

gnarled and turbid sinuses (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 13:40 (three years ago) link

John Zorn's tribute to The Maestro, a public post: https://www.facebook.com/TzadikLabel/posts/3433097923389983

Irritable Baal (WmC), Thursday, 9 July 2020 13:42 (three years ago) link

Come for the king, don't miss. And ask shorter questions:

I interpreted that exchange as Fagen taking the piss out of himself. He even included it in his book.

does it look like i'm here (jon123), Thursday, 9 July 2020 13:53 (three years ago) link

Huh:

In 2007, Italian author/scholar Leonardo Colombati invited Morricone to write the original foreword for Colombati's book Bruce Springsteen – Come un killer sotto il sole: Il grande romanzo americano (1972-2007) (republished internationally a decade later as Bruce Springsteen – Like a Killer in the Sun: Selected Lyrics, 1972-2017.)

Morricone jumped at the chance, writing:

In his songs, Springsteen creates a strong sense of pietas — of the pain and humanity inherent in the characters he recounts. He does this not only through his music, where he uses different timbres and sounds to endow characters with a unique personality, but also through his lyrics, which are where his real power lies…

Although they are very different, a certain part of my work and his shares a common basis in the simple chords we use to create structured and original melodies. The composer of instrumental music must redeem this simplicity with elaborate orchestration; the author-singer/storyteller can do so by using both voice and words, as long as the voice communicates an emotion and the words are true. I like Springsteen precisely because he places this need for Truth in the forefront. This is how he manages to elude passing fads and why his music runs no risk of being lost over the course of time.

http://backstreets.com/Assets/Images/2020/newsEMorricone1996CROP.jpg

Also, Springsteen used to begin "Badlands" by having Roy play "Jill's Theme" from "Once Upon a Time in the West."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vF50vNJ1k3Y

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 9 July 2020 19:39 (three years ago) link

Ah well, I'll try not to hold that against Ennio.

The Fields o' Fat Henry (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 July 2020 19:42 (three years ago) link

RIP Ennio Morricone.

Modern Cinema wouldn't be the same without you.

And - in what is perhaps my favourite bit of trivia - indie-dancefloor-powerhouse BLUE MONDAY wouldn't be the same, either... (@peterhook) pic.twitter.com/SJ2pIDRWq6

— Shipy McShipface (@OllieShip) July 6, 2020

Vernon Locke, Thursday, 9 July 2020 22:39 (three years ago) link

Back in the 70s, in Creem, I think, Dave Marsh mentioned Broooce's cinematic, operatic, maybe (did he also say?)spaghetti western tendencies, and that seemed right, although arrgh, "Jungleland" etc--but usually pretty good (though I stopped listening in the 80s).

dow, Friday, 10 July 2020 02:53 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

I like it

Italy has put Ennio Morricone on a new limited edition €5 coin!! #maestro pic.twitter.com/WIvQcaViIn

— C. Lavender (@clavendr) July 19, 2021

Ned Raggett, Monday, 19 July 2021 20:43 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6jF0aK5b90

xzanfar, Monday, 19 July 2021 21:08 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZXwJcc1u-I

xzanfar, Monday, 19 July 2021 21:10 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNKPUuxaLRE

xzanfar, Monday, 19 July 2021 21:11 (two years ago) link

Stop posting sacco & vanzetti itt ffs

Deflatormouse, Tuesday, 20 July 2021 02:03 (two years ago) link

four weeks pass...

Can we use this s&d/rip thread as a raririties thread? Here he is in raymond scott mode

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25bUUQXXHis

The visuals are also intense.

Marcos Marcos-Valle (Deflatormouse), Tuesday, 17 August 2021 00:36 (two years ago) link

Interesting. Reminds me of the "American Magus" piece by John Zorn from "Songs from the Hermetic Theater". Not surprised that Zorn would've been familiar with this.

o. nate, Wednesday, 18 August 2021 18:30 (two years ago) link

four months pass...

xp That's awesome, probably the synthiest thing I've heard from him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0381tAAxWfA

Dipping into the bottomless well this morning I discovered L'Immoralità (1978), which was reissued on CAM earlier this year. Variations on a beautiful melancholy chord sequence that reminds me of Paddy McAloon's I Trawl the Megahertz

J. Sam, Wednesday, 22 December 2021 19:02 (two years ago) link

L’Ummanoide is the synthiest thing I know by him

covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 22 December 2021 19:06 (two years ago) link

Obviously I have not heard everything, and probably couldn't if I tried, and certainly could not have remembered, but I honestly thing "The Untouchable" is one of his most memorable scores.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 5 January 2022 00:45 (two years ago) link

three weeks pass...

lol, "Untouchables." Anyway, anyone know anything about this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjJ4KCcIjsw

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 30 January 2022 00:10 (two years ago) link

No but funny timing for the bump I’ve been all morricone for the last few days

covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Sunday, 30 January 2022 07:03 (two years ago) link

two years pass...

Just got delivery of 4 CDs (99 pence each!) of Morricone soundtracks.

Metti, Una Sera a Cena (1968) (which I've heard before and is very good in a loungey/easy listening vein.)
Giordano Bruno (1973) (one of his soundtracks for period dramas, so I imagine this will be him at his stateliest.)
Che C'entriamo Noi Con La Rivoluzione? (1972) (comedy western, which is fine as long the comedy isn't overdone.)
La Vita A Volte È Molto Dura Vero Provvidenza? (1972) (another comedy western, like the previous soundtrack there's not a lot of variety in track titles which makes me think there will be a LOT of variations on a theme - but it only cost 99p, so what the hell.)

man in suit and red tie raising his fist (Tom D.), Wednesday, 13 March 2024 14:44 (one month ago) link

I still dream of a Complete Morricone box set, can't see it ever happening though

help me I am in hull (Matt #2), Wednesday, 13 March 2024 15:09 (one month ago) link

Jesus, you'd need an articulated lorry to deliver that.

man in suit and red tie raising his fist (Tom D.), Wednesday, 13 March 2024 15:14 (one month ago) link

Che C'entriamo Noi Con La Rivoluzione? (1972) (comedy western, which is fine as long the comedy isn't overdone.)

A favorite! The mood is more vast-open-spaces melancholic than comic, with occasional ducklike interludes. Never seen the film.

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Wednesday, 13 March 2024 17:28 (one month ago) link


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