Best Darkthrone Album

i dig

panzerfaust is so great.

holy crap is panzerfaust really gonna beat transilvanian hunger?

Which is the one with the big radio hit again?

gotta be Emperor's "Curse You All Men," I think that charted in like fifteen countries

darkthrone have actually charted in norway with 'too old, too cold' and 'nwobhm' (and probably with their two respective albums as well).

as for the poll: it's a tough one. 'under a funeral moon' and 'transilvanian hunger' are the ones where they perfected the stripped-down, minimalist black metal which i suppose they've been credited as the originators of. but for me, it's a choice between 'a blaze in the northern sky' and -yes- 'panzerfaust'.

t. hunger

tho john is right about the new one being great

I vote for Transilvanian Hunger for being the fantastic aural torture session it is, but A Blaze probably made the biggest impression on me at the time - of course the talk was all there but A Blaze was the first actually *musical* statement the Norwegians made that could not be denied by anyone. First Nordic album on a "credible" label with proper distribution as well (Peaceville was pretty much *the* underground Metal label at the time). We're talking late 1991 here, Burzum hadn't released a note, Mayhem only had the then four year old crappy Deathcrush demo to show, Thorns was busy filling murky rehearsal tapes, Emperor were still writing material for their demo and Immortal were in their 100%-Bathory-clone phase. For nearly every Metalhead outside Norway, A Blaze was the point they really started paying attention to the Norwegian scene.

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

Justice is served!

I was out of town this weekend, meant to slip in my vote for Panzerfaust but missed the due date.

FIVE MILLION CHRISTIANS ON A RIDE TOWARDS US
OH, I SLAUGHTERED THE BUNCH WITH ONE SINGLE HIT (WITH MY SPEAR)
FIVE MILLION WOMEN SO ALONE IN THE NIGHT
OH, I HAD THEM ALL SATISFIED PROFUSELY (EVERY NIGHT BY MYSELF)

this is fuckin' great.

varg wrote that shit. double CREDABILITIES.

no votes for Funeral Moon? nobody?

i know, crazy

well you guys didn't vote for it either!

with only 22 voters, that sort of thing happens... i voted for 'panzerfaust', guessing that 'transilvanian' and 'a blaze' would get the most ones.

Siegbran you'd take Funeral Moon over TH?

FIVE MILLION WOMEN SO ALONE IN THE NIGHT
OH, I HAD THEM ALL SATISFIED PROFUSELY (EVERY NIGHT BY MYSELF)

this strains credulity

your n00bs are showing h00s, every longstanding BM listener can satisfy five million women and have energy left for cricket

FIVE MILLION WOMEN SO ALONE IN THE NIGHT
OH, I HAD THEM ALL SATISFIED PROFUSELY (EVERY NIGHT BY MYSELF)

this is like straight out of a blue song.

blueS

darkthrone are the bee's knees

also the cat's pajamas

they might be "the bomb" as well, but don't quote me on that

Siegbran you'd take Funeral Moon over TH?

On many days yes - still voted for TH. But Funeral Moon is their "ugliest" album and I'm just surprised nobody had a preference for that.

Thanks to everyone on this thread - I've since listened to A Blaze In The Northern Sky, Under a Funeral Moon and currently listening to Transylvanian Hunger (which is totally awesome). I liked Under a Funeral Moon better than Blaze but I think TH is even better. This band rules!

Well done.

either Under a Funeral Moon or Translvanian Hunger

AMG review of TH: "Like most of Darkthrone's early material, it's an unpleasant dentist-drill experience that only the unholiest of unholies will pretend to enjoy."

Pretend to enjoy? What a cunt.

Yea, there is rhyme to reason in black metal so I can tell that that reviewer just hadn't figured it out.

speaking of black metal I just got Mayhem's De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas again yay \m/

you know what would be cool? a version of "deathcrush" that doesn't cost more than a dollar a minute. even cooler would be a double cd with all of the shitty-sounding dead material.

I usedto have Dawn of the Black Hearts, fresh with the cover photo of Dead with his brains in his lap...but alas I needed money and ebay called.

gott punch have you got the Preparing for War special edition?

no. no, i don't. i bought the regular version (when it first came out) and i hate buying things twice, no matter how stupid that is of me.

Do you recommend it, j0hn?

I don't have it yet, it's on order

After the release of "The Cult Is Alive" many conversations took place if they are still black metal and that will happen now. That’s bullshit of course ’cause if someone believes that this recording is not black metal then probably has no idea of what he is talking about. I, really, don’t remember many people back at the rise of 90s that were listening to this band; now all of them consider themselves as black metal masters with opinion for everything having constantly their mouth open telling nonsense. Well, they can put their opinions...you know where!!!

i'm listening to 'goatlord' now out of sympathy for it's lack of appreciation in the poll.

an odd record, but i've got a soft spot for it. i've heard it referred to as the darkthrone 'singalong' record, and that sort of makes bizarre sense. a lot of fun to listen to with some really unexpected use of female vocals.

An odd album indeed, the female vocals were actually sung by Fenriz.

I probably would have voted for Blaze, had I seen this thread.

I really should give that latest album a shot...

haha sung by fenriz. that should come as a surprise, but somehow doesn't :)

"Darkthrone's one of those bands who routinely occupy that "this is the only band I want to listen to, everything else is bullshit" space."

on the motherfucking mark

I'm absolutely a Soulside Journey guy. The rest of it... is fine.

i only own blaze thru panzerfaust and i've been listening to them an absolutely unhealthy amount these past few weeks. what else in the black metal genre sounds like this? i will listen the unholy fuck out of it.

To the layman, all black metal sounds like Dark Throne.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/72/Darkthrone.jpg

this is my favourite artist picture ever.
i only heard Transilvanian Hunger (i guess it's the right one to hear) sounds like a cool broken tape. Darkthrone might be a bit like Jandek, you actually WANT to like this, and then you do.

Am I damn fool for not having paid attention since Plague Wielder? I never dug that and Ravishing Grimness all that much, so I figured there was no point in keeping up.
I think I still have a Transylvanian Hunger shirt somewhere -- I'm probably too fat for it now, which is METAL \m/

Can't say I'm particularly curious about Fenriz' split with Nattefrost, despite the silly name ("Engangsgrill")

I am a damn fool for still buying every Darkthrone record. It's more of a charity thing I guess. They're fun for a few spins like latter day Motorhead records.

I have an old A Blaze shirt which I wear proudly but but not too often since I moved to one of the most unmetal cities on earth. Apart from the grim and frostbitten mountains.

Darkthrone rule. This is a fact. Such variety over the years too! The range from "goatlord" to "panzerfaust" to "F.O.A.D" is part of what keeps the plot interesting. I wear my "Total Death" sweatshirt with pride.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_S0FvMOce1cc/Ss89foQADWI/AAAAAAAADfo/clvO8VCjrHQ/s1600-h/fenriz.png

i don't think it's necessary to call left a c***

i was on the verge of calling his rhetorical tactics cop-ish tho

i am aware of the discussions - so what? this thread has been free of them until now

i have only directly insulted the band and metal in general and i haven't called any posters nazis yet

i could and maybe should go after slayer and motorhead too but i hold my tongue, this is egregious though and i decided complaining on another thread wasn't enough

i'd rather be called a cunt than the other thing

Besides, you're British, right?

and german, so

i don't listen to burzum bc that guy is a nazi and i read a lot of persuasive arguments on here back in the day that even listening to nazi shit without giving them your money is some kind of tacit support, i took it to heart, that's still what i live by (even though i think also on some level i respond to regressive shit (just regressive shit that isn't advocating for racist and sexist garbage or whose avatar isn't advocate of racist and sexist garbage, more regressive like a shot-on-video horror is regressive. and i definitely draw my own lines when it comes to this stuff.... as we all do? even with darkthrone, whose most famous record has some nazi shit in the liner notes but who have presented themselves as aggressively not-nazis ever since as far as i have been able to tell)

hard to tell if the british ppl on here are cool with americans calling them cunts, i just assumed it wasn't cool

yeah I didn't mean to be #notallmetalbands, but like Brad said, they've definitely presented since as not-nazis.

cop-ish does work. I think back to the thread DJP started last year, asking why so many black metal threads had been started in a multi-day period, and offering the perspective that it was a particularly ugly look as it happened during the midst of the George Floyd situation, since a few of the threads did discuss some bands with checkered pasts, something that DJP has been brought up in the past and wanted to discuss.

that was my fault, as I was the thread bumper, and it had happened on a night where I depressed and lonely and listening to music and bumped a few thematically connected threads. Is there defensiveness in the metal scene? of fucking course. it exists on this board, and throughout the scene. we saw it in DJP's thread. I'm embarrassed by it and have spent a lot of time fighting it and racism/sexism in the scene in person, even though I've been clowned for it as being an SJW at times in recent years.

DJP got rightfully angry during that thread because the question was essentially for me (as the thread bumper), but many other people jumped in, defensive, not listening to his concerns, being condescending to them, and rushing to preserve the sanctity of metal, while ums and sarahell rightfully asked everybody to dial it back and listen. He gave the board the opportunity to explain themselves, and we failed because we didn't listen and talked over him (I felt bad as I had missed the discussion for several hours).

So to Brad's point, yes, metalheads are not a monolith, and we're not all averse to copping to our own sins or the sins of our genre. we have a lot of pieces of shit amongst us - and not all of us police it properly.

but Left isn't interested in anything but gotcha politics, being able to label and paint with a broad brush, isn't even interested in prior discussions we've had regarding Darkthrone and their early origins, or the makeup of who was a part of these discussions. that's the 'defensiveness' you're seeing here, Left. and I'd hardly consider Brad someone who is a listener with blinders who jedi-handwaves everything away, nor j0hn or Big HOOS or rushomancy (who I miss dearly) - all people who have taken part in discussions in this thread or others.

I am aware of prior discussions. I remember the previous controversy. there is a reason I am pushing this here and not on some metal forum. I know people know this is not ok. this is not some kind of fun game for me, I don’t get off on being a killjoy. I want to like metal. this is why I don’t

this is not some kind of fun game for me, I don’t get off on being a killjoy. I want to like metal

I have never gotten the feeling from any of your posts on any subject in any thread on any ILX page that you "want to like" anything. You're a willfully ignorant shit-stirrer with a messiah complex.

And with that I'm out, because I don't even like Darkthrone.

i really get the idea that you want to like metal but it is too steeped in or tolerant of nazi ideology so like yes i agree that sucks really hard

the closest i come is mayhem who i love so much but recent discussions on what i think was the de mysteriis thread made me rethink about how much time i listen to a band with a dude like hellhammer in it iykwim. this was btw not a hostile discussion at all

yeah that was last year, it was a worthwhile discussion.

I am aware of prior discussions. I remember the previous controversy. there is a reason I am pushing this here and not on some metal forum. I know people know this is not ok. this is not some kind of fun game for me, I don’t get off on being a killjoy. I want to like metal. this is why I don’t

because occasionally people talk about music i like, or recommend music i might like. same reason anyone else is here i assume

*nothing* i have ever posted has been as harsh as the kind of stuff that was standard here 10-15 years ago for what it’s worth (nothing ofc)

Fiww, everything you've raised is clearly worthy of discussion but you've arrived like someone carrying the torch of enlightenment and in my experience this thread is full of thoughtful people that have clearly already spent a good deal of time debating just these issues and deserve more respect.

what would have been a better way to raise this? because other than ignoring it i can’t think of anything that wouldn’t have provoked the same kind of reaction, especially because of but also regardless of whatever reputation i have by now on here

maybe a poster people actually like saying hey people this is a bit dodgy isn’t it could have got somewhere but i didn’t see it happening

Nah, of course it's fine to ask - in lots of ways it seems so clear and obvious. Idk, don't present it as an aggressive fait accompli I guess.

this is not some kind of fun game for me, I don’t get off on being a killjoy.

it'll never be the best Darkthrone album but the new one's pretty good. really liked the past three in point of fact, the ancient doomy vibe really works.

Feel like "The Sea Beneath The Seas..." is meant to sound like Manilla Road (excepting the vocals)

"The Sea Beneath the Seas of the Sea" reminds me of Iron Maiden's "Remember Tomorrow" a lot.

One man's Manilla Road is another man's Iron Maiden through the lowest fi recording imaginable!