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The true test is when you go "Wait, there's actually some really awesome stuff on The Altogether!"

― HI DERE, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:20 (sixteen years ago) link

never got that, so will update in 2015

― That one guy that quit, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:20 (sixteen years ago) link

"Wait, there's actually some really awesome stuff on The Altogether!

or even the last album (which i never listen to)

the first three tracks on MON are so great. still dislike 'Style'.

In Sides would probably win an Orbital albums Poll, don't think it's worth doing one. An Orbital non-singles tracks poll might be more fun.

― blueski, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:24 (sixteen years ago) link

meanwhile i heard the first minute or so of 'Frenetic' the other day for the first time and finally understood why that track doesn't get much love. it really sucks until the 'Kinetic' hook comes in properly.

― blueski, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:26 (sixteen years ago) link

insides ftw

― sleep, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:32 (sixteen years ago) link

and of course halcyon + on + on

― sleep, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:33 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't think I will ever get sick of listening to "Way Out/Spare Parts Express". Middle of Nowhere could be just those two tracks and I would barely notice. (OK, "Nothing Left" is pretty nice too.) As time goes on, it gets more and more cemented as my favorite Orbital song (I think of it as one song, don't make me split it up!).

― Vinnie, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:19 (sixteen years ago) link

ditto to vinnie. mostly. insides is really not all that.

― Alan, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:20 (sixteen years ago) link

I don't think I will ever get sick of listening to "Way Out/Spare Parts Express". Middle of Nowhere could be just those two tracks and I would barely notice.

this is where i've been for all these years... but then i reached further in.

― That one guy that quit, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:21 (sixteen years ago) link

'in sides' opening and closing tracks still godhead.

― That one guy that quit, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:22 (sixteen years ago) link

so much so that they sampled most of them on MoN.

― Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:22 (sixteen years ago) link

Pop Will Eat Itself were sampling their previous albums when Hartnolls wuz nipXoRs

― Alan, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:24 (sixteen years ago) link

KLF sampled the same two songs throughout their entire career but HELL THEY WERE THE KLF!

― Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:25 (sixteen years ago) link

i wonder why they didn't just get Alison G to sing 'Autumn'. i suppose Pooka or whatever they were called brought a slightly different quality to it - more 'waily'. the opening lines of the song are wonderfully sinister.

― blueski, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:29 (sixteen years ago) link

insides is really not all that.

STONE THE INDFIDEL

― HI DERE, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:43 (sixteen years ago) link

this is where i've been for all these years... but then i reached further in.

I've tried, but it's been tough. I know I've heard the whole thing at least ten times by now, and I've had it for years. But putting "Way Out/Spare Parts Express" first kills the album for me. It's just such a perfect song, nothing else on the album really compares after listening to it. And I never want to not listen to it when I pull out the album!

I'm starting to think my relationship with this song is unhealthy.

― Vinnie, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:44 (sixteen years ago) link

srsly d00d. the box, ace, the rest, fnuh. altogether aside, probly my least listened to orbital album. maybe i'll have a relisten.

― Alan, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:45 (sixteen years ago) link

"Adnan's" is possibly my favorite thing they've ever done. I'm not super invested in "Dwr Budr" but everything else on that album is essential listening for me.

― HI DERE, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:50 (sixteen years ago) link

the box, ace, the rest, fnuh.

dude 'The Girl With The Sun In Her Head' surely. 'P.E.T.R.O.L.' kicks bottoms. 'Dwr Budr' is as sinister, melancholy and lush as anything they've done, 'Adnans' too for that matter. i never used to like it as much as the second album and thought the highs on it were no greater than the high on 'Sniv'...perhaps I still don't but it really is a great piece of work as a whole.

― blueski, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:51 (sixteen years ago) link

i've seen Orbital only 4 times ever, all at festivals (in 97, 99, 02 and 04).

― blueski, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:52 (sixteen years ago) link

but as i've said elsewhere on ILM if Orbital were to ever come back and do one of those 'perform the entire album from start to finish' gigs, I would now want it to be InSides.

― blueski, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:53 (sixteen years ago) link

'OUT THERE SOMEWHERE' FFS PEOPLE

― That one guy that quit, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:54 (sixteen years ago) link

Saw Orbital at the Royal Albert Hall ('96?) and that remains one of the most incredible gigs I've ever witnessed in my life.

― Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:57 (sixteen years ago) link

ok, i WILL have a relisten. but it's still MoN all the way for me.

i think i saw orbital 7 times! five times at glasto (ISTR the same as steve, with added sometime around 1994, though 02 i was not into it so much for some reason), once at Brixton wossname, and once at Hammersmith Palais (though i was super grumpy from ticket shananigans, and it was the Altogether tour meh-ness)

― Alan, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:01 (sixteen years ago) link

The first couple of minutes of Dwr Bdr are amazing and spine-tingling. In fact the second half of The Box is probably the bit I was most tempted to skip last time I listened to InSides, maybe I've just heard too much.

The first three tracks on MoN are incredible but I remember thinking at the time the album sagged hugely after that. It's improved with age if anything, possibly because around 2004 loads of dance music sounded like MoN (Nothing Left in particular). I Don't Know You People is still a bit crap though.

― Matt DC, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:03 (sixteen years ago) link

(this sounds like a record for me - i.e. the act i've seen the most live. i'd have to count times i've seen New Order...)

― Alan, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:04 (sixteen years ago) link

I am afraid to count how many times I've seen The Cure. Probably 12 times...?

― HI DERE, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:26 (sixteen years ago) link

have we had a POLL on their albums yet?

can someone do one i dunno how they work.

― pisces, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:52 (sixteen years ago) link

Saw Orbital in 1996 at the Barrowlands and it was one of my all time favourite gigs.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:54 (sixteen years ago) link

have we had a POLL on their albums yet?

can someone do one i dunno how they work.

see my post upthread - would it really be worth it?

― blueski, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 17:04 (sixteen years ago) link

well yeah you'd think but 'sniv..' is great and i actully like 'brown' the best. 'in sides' is the one everyone said was best at the time, but it's a bit proggy an ting.

― pisces, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:02 (sixteen years ago) link

Brown would get my vote.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:28 (sixteen years ago) link

In Sides was the highest ranking Orbital album in the 90s album poll.

― blueski, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:59 (sixteen years ago) link

i've never been that into 'brown' (hyuck hycuk drugs ref) -- prolly cos the single versh of 'halcyon' is better than the LP, and this one live version of 'impact' has always been my fave orbital choon.

― That one guy that quit, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 19:28 (sixteen years ago) link

only dud on the brown album is the talky bits - i can do without them easily. even 'monday' is great.

― blueski, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 19:31 (sixteen years ago) link

Given the distance of time, I totally can't decide which album of Snivilisation, In Sides or MoN I prefer. Brown is a little behind that, and the other tree a few steps even further back.

― Scik Mouthy, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 19:38 (sixteen years ago) link

I saw Orbital 3 times, I think; once with MBM, once with The Orb and The Chemical Brothers, and once with...?

― HI DERE, Thursday, 3 May 2007 03:35 (sixteen years ago) link

I've been re-getting-into Orbital recently, love Brown album and InSides esp "Halcyon" and "girl with the sun in her head" which is just beautiful.

― Trayce, Thursday, 3 May 2007 03:37 (sixteen years ago) link

i relistened to insides.

ANYWAY

guess what. My copy of MoN has gone! I think i lent it out ages ago. sadly before i put it on iTunes =:-O

― Alan, Friday, 4 May 2007 13:21 (sixteen years ago) link

This thread prompted me to listen to MoN again the other day and there's still a sag in the middle (I Don't Know You People - Otono). The one that's aged really well is Style, which I was totally underwhelmed by when it came out and now it sounds great. So Kraftwerk!

― Matt DC, Friday, 4 May 2007 13:27 (sixteen years ago) link

i'll never turn

― blueski, Friday, 4 May 2007 13:35 (sixteen years ago) link

I like the Dollar lift on 'Style' but nothing else about it. Around the same time Alpinestars 'Interlaken' came out and much prefer that.

― blueski, Friday, 4 May 2007 13:38 (sixteen years ago) link

Paul Hartnoll's album turned up in the post today, just looking at the sleeve now (it looks sort of sub-Arcade Fire)... I don't know what to expect, really

― DJ Mencap, Friday, 4 May 2007 13:38 (sixteen years ago) link

"i've never been that into 'brown' (hyuck hycuk drugs ref) -- prolly cos the single versh of 'halcyon' is better than the LP, and this one live version of 'impact' has always been my fave orbital choon."

Yeah the live "Impact" is quite astonishing.

― Tim F, Friday, 4 May 2007 13:40 (sixteen years ago) link

This thread prompted me to listen to MoN again the other day and there's still a sag in the middle (I Don't Know You People - Otono).

'i don't know you people' was a particular skip-track moment just because there was something about the title/sample that pissed me off; but it turns into fairground rave! how could you not like that?

― That one guy that quit, Friday, 4 May 2007 13:44 (sixteen years ago) link

the Hartnoll albums sounds quite electro-goth from what i've heard, but not in the good Knife-like way.

― blueski, Friday, 4 May 2007 13:46 (sixteen years ago) link

bagpipe remix of style roxor. always liked idkyp too (title is a tag on my LJ, hem hem)

― Alan, Friday, 4 May 2007 13:49 (sixteen years ago) link

more in the "having Robert Smith on it" sort of way?

― Alan, Friday, 4 May 2007 13:49 (sixteen years ago) link

more on the evidence of this track 'Seance' by The Cravats ft. Paul - actually it's more 'industrial Wedding Present' perhaps.

― blueski, Friday, 4 May 2007 13:52 (sixteen years ago) link

The Bob Smith track is playing now. He kinda dominates it. The track before, 'Simple Sounds', was pretty Orbital-ish (thinking 'Style' specifically), but very diluted on first impression

― DJ Mencap, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:01 (sixteen years ago) link

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oh god the screaming!!!

actually come to think of it I haven't heard "Steel Cube Idolatry" or "High Rise" either, though I know they were on the UK release. glad to see "Belfast" is at the end...for whatever reason the US version puts it as track #1, which is very bizarre

wonder if future reissues are gonna have bonuses too - imagine a 4xLP In Sides with full versions of The Box & the Times Fly EP, plus "The Saint" ? oh hell yeah

― frogbs, Tuesday, 23 January 2024 18:50 (two months ago) link

looks like the Green/Brown show is coming to Chicago? I might have to make the drive for that, dunno how many chances I'm gonna get to see them

― frogbs, Friday, 26 January 2024 21:08 (two months ago) link

Only just found out they're including Brown and delighted having already a ticket for the London show

― nashwan, Friday, 26 January 2024 21:13 (two months ago) link

Oof gotta shell out for this. Can't remember the last time they were here and don't know when they'll be back again.

― Psychocandy Apple Grey (Pyschocandles), Saturday, 27 January 2024 02:00 (two months ago) link

wet like he's Book

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 27 January 2024 02:01 (two months ago) link

I couldn't really afford the Bristol ticket but once I saw Brown was included that was it.

― you can see me from westbury white horse, Saturday, 27 January 2024 04:40 (two months ago) link

but... there's only one "Green & Brown set" on this list? Everything else is still the Green tour?

https://orbitalofficial.com/live/

― StanM, Saturday, 27 January 2024 13:21 (two months ago) link

The UK dates are all Green/Brown.

― mike t-diva, Saturday, 27 January 2024 13:39 (two months ago) link

No chance I'm gonna get to see them this tour but I might be the rare Orbital fan who wouldn't be excited at all to see them do Green. Brown on the other hand...

― Vinnie, Saturday, 27 January 2024 18:34 (two months ago) link

I'd take a Snivilisation show for its 30th anniversary while we're at it.

― nashwan, Saturday, 27 January 2024 19:21 (two months ago) link

three weeks pass...

okay who's going to the Chicago show? apparently it's not gonna be a Green/Brown show which is fine by me, they have killer tracks throughout their catalogue

― frogbs, Monday, 19 February 2024 19:02 (two months ago) link

I am in for Chicago! Looking forward to it.

― Psychocandy Apple Grey (Pyschocandles), Monday, 19 February 2024 19:38 (two months ago) link

Just noticed that the remastered version of the Chime 12" is out today on streaming services

Hope that means we'll start to see their other singles appearing soon, as was mentioned in that interview a couple of years ago

― groovypanda, Friday, 23 February 2024 18:29 (one month ago) link

this one? that was only last year

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TXmdXF1FIY

― StanM, Friday, 23 February 2024 19:29 (one month ago) link

No, it was from an interview back in 2021 when they were talking about the new deal they'd signed

― groovypanda, Tuesday, 27 February 2024 17:24 (one month ago) link

one month passes...

Remastered Green album out today. 6 hours (!) across 5 discs!

Looking forward to digging in

― groovypanda, Friday, 19 April 2024 05:58 (seventeen hours ago) link

I was sad about how long I was going to have to wait for my CDs to show up until I realized this was likely on streaming platforms as well

― Cemetry Gaetz (DJP), Friday, 19 April 2024 14:48 (eight hours ago) link

Ok. How the fuck have I never heard this Belfast/Wasted track before!?

― groovypanda, Friday, 19 April 2024 15:10 (seven hours ago) link

the Best Of comp of the anthology series it came from was named after it!

― bae (sic), Friday, 19 April 2024 15:36 (seven hours ago) link

Yeah saw that. Have still got.all the Trance Europe Express CDs but think I only had the first Volume one

― groovypanda, Friday, 19 April 2024 15:37 (seven hours ago) link

is there a standalone vinyl release for this?

― frogbs, Friday, 19 April 2024 16:29 (six hours ago) link

double vinyl yes

https://orbital.tmstor.es/

― StanM, Friday, 19 April 2024 16:31 (six hours ago) link

oh cool, wonder if US distributors will carry this, as shipping to America is probably gonna be as much as the album itself

wonder if the rest of the catalogue is getting this kind of treatment, I mean imagine a 4xLP In Sides with Times Fly and The Saint and the full version of The Box. I'd buy that for a dollar.

― frogbs, Friday, 19 April 2024 16:33 (six hours ago) link

Ok. How the fuck have I never heard this Belfast/Wasted track before!?

Ha, I was just thinking about it randomly the other day. (Got the Volume CDs as they came out, as much as I could.)

― Ned Raggett, Friday, 19 April 2024 17:30 (five hours ago) link

Remastered Green album out today. 6 hours (!) across 5 discs!

where are you seeing 5 disks? there are 4 CD and 4 LP editions.

and now they are offering "Green Album Expanded Digital Download" for £34.99 which basically adds 12 remixes, and i've got an email offering £5 off (after spending over a hundred on the CD/LP editions), while you can get the exact same thing on bandcamp for €20.

i'm totally okay with supporting orbital, but with the limited drops / shipping cost to canada and this kind of "promotions" it really feels like a cash grab.

― scanner darkly, Friday, 19 April 2024 17:56 (five hours ago) link

As you've mentioned the Bandcamp option:

https://orbitalofficial.bandcamp.com/album/orbital-the-green-album-expanded

― Ned Raggett, Friday, 19 April 2024 18:05 (five hours ago) link

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