― kephm (kephm), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 02:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― Gear! (Ill Cajun Gunsmith) (Gear!), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 02:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― Gear! (Ill Cajun Gunsmith) (Gear!), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 02:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 03:23 (eighteen years ago) link
you're out of your mind. the late 70s and early 80 are only second in my book to the late 60s-early 70s. you've got kraftwerk, the beginnings of hip hop, punk, post punk, the best reggae i've ever heard (On-U Sound, Wackies, Mad Professor), the best Funkadelic records, the beginnings of industrial (Throbbing Gristle, Cabaret Voltaire). if you're not into this style of jazz (understandable, took me a bit), there's always the NY loft scene.
― The Amazing Jaxon! (jaxon), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 05:36 (eighteen years ago) link
certainly though, in '79 time it was something of a thrill to see both herbie h and toop/beresford etc. (flying lizards) on TOTP; it was a bit like "WE'VE WON!" (except of course we hadn't) the pop group/slits/prince far-i/don cherry quadruple bill tour was for me the peak of everything (at the time, and perhaps still is now).
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 06:57 (eighteen years ago) link
Tales of Captain Black James Blood Ulmer (w/Ornette)Dancing In Your Head Ornette ColemanBody Meta Ornette ColemanLenox Avenue Breakdown Arthur BlytheIn The Tradition Arthur BlytheAir Lore AirThe Great Pretender Lester BowieAre You Glad To Be In America? James Blood UlmerBlack Rock James Blood UlmerFreelancing James Blood UlmerOdyssey James Blood UlmerDefunkt Defunkt"Strangling Me With Your Love"/"Razor's Edge" Defunkt
― m coleman (lovebug starski), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 09:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 09:24 (eighteen years ago) link
That said, I picked up Lester Bowie's WORKS compilation for a dollar the other week and was kinda knocked out by "B Funk", which appears elsewhere on his AVANT POP album. Is the rest of the lp like this cut? If so, I'm on it.
― doug watson (solid air), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 14:03 (eighteen years ago) link
-- The Amazing Jaxon! (jaso...), July 13th, 2005.
No, you're right, it was hyperbole. But I stand by what I said about jazz from that time.
― Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 14:06 (eighteen years ago) link
Favourite tracks:
(Falling Like) Dominoes / Wind Parade - Donald ByrdRunning Away / Can't You See Me - Roy AyersExpansions - Lonnie Liston SmithEverywhere But Loose - Oneness Of JujuFeel The Real - David BendethTo Prove My Love - Ned DohenyJoy And Pain / Back In Stride - MazeThe Groove - Rodney FranklinRisin' To The Top - Keni BurkeDancin' - Grey & HanksDisco Nights (Rock Freak) - GQRunaway Love - Linda CliffordLet The Music Play - Charles EarlandDancing In Outer Space - AtmosphearLove Injection - TrusselAll About The Papers - The DellsI Like What You're Doing To Me - Young & CompanyA Lover's Holiday / The Glow Of Love - ChangeTake Some Time Out For Love - Salsoul OrchestraTime Is Right - MCBI Know You, I Live You - Chaka KhanAnnie Mae - Natalie ColeBarely Breaking Even - Universal Robot BandWhat Are We Gonna Do About It - Mercy MercyBrazilian Love Affair - George DukeSouthern Freeez - FreeezAin't No Time Fa Nothing - The FuturesNumber One - Patrice RushenMiss Cheryl - Banda Black RioLos Conquistadores Chocolates - Johnny HammondMusic Is My Sanctuary - Gary BartzSummer Madness - Kool & The GangFunkin' For Jamaica / Fungi Mama - Tom Browne
― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 14:43 (eighteen years ago) link
Soft Head's ROGUE ELEMENT, a 1978 live recording, handily avoids the fuzo traps that befell latter period Soft Machine. This is free electric jazz that ain't weighted down by overcomposition or chopsaholism. Trevor Watts' Amalgam were into similar territory at the time. Just picked up DEEP (1977) and OVER THE RAINBOW (1979) on FMR reissue and both feature some nicely distracting moments of free funk.
― doug watson (solid air), Wednesday, 13 July 2005 16:11 (eighteen years ago) link
Ronald Shannon Jackson & the Decoding Society - Mandance
― earlnash, Wednesday, 13 July 2005 16:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― jaxon (jaxon), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 23:08 (eighteen years ago) link
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― matt2 (matt2), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 20:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― team jaxon (jaxon), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 20:18 (eighteen years ago) link
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― vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 20:23 (eighteen years ago) link
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― matt2 (matt2), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 20:28 (eighteen years ago) link
Hmm, interesting... where else could you talk about this?
― Andy_K (Andy_K), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 20:34 (eighteen years ago) link
Nope, nothing so overtly in the disco vein. Ra's late 70s output is fairly diverse-- there are solo piano joints and freeform synth freakouts alongside the groove items. Re. the latter, I dropped some suggestions in a recent article for Deep Water.
― doug watson (solid air), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 02:23 (eighteen years ago) link
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― team jaxon (jaxon), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 19:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― Brakhage (brakhage), Thursday, 2 March 2006 02:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― team jaxon (jaxon), Thursday, 2 March 2006 03:42 (eighteen years ago) link
http://s53.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=28HL211JB8FE231G3M8MB7X41P
― matt2 (matt2), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― Brakhage (brakhage), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― team jaxon (jaxon), Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― b'angelo, Thursday, 2 March 2006 17:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― matt2 (matt2), Thursday, 2 March 2006 18:27 (eighteen years ago) link
Sleeping Beauty and On Jupiter never made it to CD, did they?
― Brakhage (brakhage), Thursday, 2 March 2006 18:37 (eighteen years ago) link
Sleeping Beauty and On Jupiter never made it to CD, did they?ArtYard did vinyl pressings of both Sleeping Beauty and On Jupiter. No legitimate CDs exist yet.
― doug watson (solid air), Thursday, 2 March 2006 19:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sparkle Motion's Rising Force, Thursday, 2 March 2006 21:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― o. nate (onate), Thursday, 2 March 2006 21:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― b'angelo, Friday, 3 March 2006 01:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― Bobby Peru (Bobby Peru), Friday, 3 March 2006 02:54 (eighteen years ago) link
do you dj around the bay?
― team jaxon (jaxon), Friday, 3 March 2006 03:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― Bobby Peru (Bobby Peru), Friday, 3 March 2006 09:11 (eighteen years ago) link
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― team jaxon (jaxon), Friday, 3 March 2006 22:39 (eighteen years ago) link
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― b'angelo, Friday, 3 March 2006 22:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― b'angelo, Friday, 3 March 2006 22:49 (eighteen years ago) link
don't know if it's similar but search: Deodato - Night Cruiser, "Whistle Bump"
― brimstead, Saturday, 26 August 2017 04:17 (six years ago) link
bump
― flopson, Monday, 28 August 2017 06:53 (six years ago) link
whistle bump is nice. bit more disco than the Adolfo, but i'm holding onto it for sure. thx brims
― flopson, Monday, 28 August 2017 06:55 (six years ago) link
so dope
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMP6AMS5e2Q
― kolakube (Ross), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 06:10 (six years ago) link
hell yes, love that track
― IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Tuesday, 9 January 2018 15:27 (six years ago) link
Maynard Ferguson- The FlyBrian Bennett Voyage album
― Avoiceofone, Friday, 17 January 2020 18:26 (four years ago) link
Aquarian Dream-You're a Star
― Avoiceofone, Friday, 17 January 2020 18:28 (four years ago) link
Last year I wrote a three-part series about Sonny Rollins' 1970s albums - lots of funk, even some disco.
Part 1, Part 2, Part 3
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Friday, 17 January 2020 18:44 (four years ago) link
Oh yes! Still need to check out several of those, but my gateway back in the day was Nucleus, successfully balancing trans-genre/subgenre accessibility and integrity; Don't Stop The Carnival was fun, although Tony Williams didn't contribute as much as expected (from prodigious teen years on, he set the bar very high); There Will Be Another You, 1965 live set released in '78, was revelatory and relevant, re ongoing saga of well-established stylist implicitly responding to the hairy call of free jazz, challenging self and audience in an engrossing, strenuous, exemplary way, lyrical and hard-edged. (He also challenged its release, but unperson says it very eventually re-appeared as part of a double CD.)
Otherwise, though still controversial among his fans, I liked Ornette w Prime Time, also James White and the Blacks (even got a James Chance box, Irresistible Impulse, which is a bit much, but worth checking out if you find it cheap). Also the Lounge Lizards, young Marc Ribot (briefly a Lizard), and a lot of stuff on the Gramavision label https://www.discogs.com/label/12057-Gramavision
re no wave etc, incl. w discoid dancestand appeal, check a bunch of those ZE Records reissues from several years back, dunno what might still be in catalog, but at least the cut-uot bins if act quickly):https://www.discogs.com/label/7785-ZE-Records
― dow, Friday, 17 January 2020 19:12 (four years ago) link
I've just started checking out the early, early Lounge Lizards material - all I'd ever heard was the live-in-Tokyo album, but the first recordings with Arto Lindsay, when they're reducing Thelonious Monk compositions to shards, are pretty fascinating.
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Friday, 17 January 2020 19:45 (four years ago) link
There should be some good boots of early stuff posted here and there. Meanwhile, the best set I've heard is the following (legit) deposit, as nailed by xgau:Live 79-81 [ROIR, 1985]Before they were a mediocre jazz group or a hot fusion band they were a mordant postpunk concept, the avant-Raybeats. More than their antiseptic Editions EG album, this captures their raw sleaze, not to mention John Lurie's reptillian embouchure and (on three cuts) Arto Lindsay's cool-defying guitar. (Then he gives it a B+, but always go by the descriptons, if you go by any of his stuff.)(He liked some of their later stuff too, but yeah this was the shit.)
― dow, Sunday, 19 January 2020 23:14 (four years ago) link
Speaking of Ornette and Prime Time, the discoid peak (that I know of) is Of Human Feelings: early digital, but the CD (also early, but mine might be remastered) sounds good to me.
― dow, Sunday, 19 January 2020 23:21 (four years ago) link
I interviewed Jamaaladeen Tacuma last year and we talked about In All Languages, and his tenure in Prime Time, quite a bit. You can hear it here, if you want.
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Sunday, 19 January 2020 23:52 (four years ago) link
I do, thanks!
― dow, Monday, 20 January 2020 01:05 (four years ago) link
search: ramsey lewis' ramsey from 1979. a1 and b1 are disco. the rest is more on the jazz-funk side. production is excellent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1UVeNg-2YU
Can't wait to get this on vinyl and slow it down the necessary 10 to 15 BPM.
― Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 19 August 2020 20:24 (three years ago) link
such a great thread
fascinating era that still feels refreshingly unsettled wrt any standard narrative about jazz, pop, rock, R&B, etc
there's been some reassessment in light of various revivals but a lot of this stuff still seems barely acknowledged esp by jazz types
― Left, Thursday, 10 December 2020 16:29 (three years ago) link
Donald Byrd would have turned 88 yesterday. I wrote a guide to his stuff which goes from the 50s to the 70s.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 10 December 2020 17:10 (three years ago) link
ty that is great! I found the sonny rollins one really helpful before
― Left, Thursday, 10 December 2020 18:06 (three years ago) link
cracking article.out of all my jazz era collection, other than The Axe (who was not totally jazz, but hey), Byrd is the main man i come back to the most.such variety and excellence.
― mark e, Thursday, 10 December 2020 18:29 (three years ago) link
Yes, thanks for the Byrding guide; I've only heard "Christo Redentor" and a few other tracks occasionally played on my local jazz station (also remember the Blackbyrds a little bit). Several thread-relevant albums here: https://daily.bandcamp.com/best-of-2020/the-best-reissues-of-2020 (the Fela prob has considerable jazz appeal too, I suspect). And they're all linked to bandcamp pages: Billy Brooks, Pharoah Sanders, self-funded Shirley Scott, South Africa's Heshoo Beshoo Group, advance bits of which I was totally buzzed by over on Rolling Reissues---the only one I hadn't heard or heard of was Brooks:
Windows Of The Mind Billy BrooksBUYGO TO ALBUMMerch for this release:Vinyl LP, Compact Disc (CD)
Billy Brooks established himself as a sought after session musician in the 1950’s, rubbing shoulders with Ray Charles, Lionel Hampton, and Cal Tjader. Charles was clearly impressed by the funky trumpeter; in 1974, he signed Brooks to his sub-label Crossover Records, releasing the upstart’s Windows of the Mind LP the same year. Closing song “Forty Days”—famously sampled by A Tribe Called Quest on their enduring classic “Luck of Lucien”—is the album’s best-known track by a wide margin, but Brooks’ legacy runs much deeper than passing references: “Rockin Julius” is a lively flash of fashionable 1970’s funk, while “Jagged Edge” harks back to a more 1950’s film noir style. The album promises glimpses into the various windows of Billy Brooks’ mind. Turns out, they’re all pretty chill, not to mention genius. Album's page adds info that it's co-produced by Charles and featuring such heavy players as Herman Riley, Calvin Keys and Larry Gales. Will check.
― dow, Thursday, 10 December 2020 19:10 (three years ago) link
I have a friend who is definitely not a music nerd, but got obsessed with Idris Muhammed's 'Could Heaven Ever Be Like This' as part of his frequent midlife fungi adventures. He wanted more and had no idea where to go, so I made him a big playlist and referencing this thread was very helpful, shouts out.
― change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 9 November 2021 15:03 (two years ago) link
Some relevant stuff on this intriguing, recently revived thread, which I didn't recall having seen before: Miroslav Vitous -- Magical Shepard
― dow, Tuesday, 9 November 2021 15:25 (two years ago) link
Good call, definitely adding New York City on there. And definitely sampling the break on Aim Your Eye. ;)
― change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 9 November 2021 15:57 (two years ago) link
Cool! Also, come to think of it, way back when Bobby Previte reappeared with Coalition of the Willing(2007) and his group of the same name, I was unexpectedly stimulated to connect with several 70s-80s intersections, trying to balance for new cadets and old hands----archived here:https://papercomet.blogspot.com/2018/06/
― dow, Tuesday, 9 November 2021 16:48 (two years ago) link
& note link from that to Previte's bandcamp, where he's posted tons ov amazers.
― dow, Tuesday, 9 November 2021 16:56 (two years ago) link
Some of the albums I mention are from a bit later than 70s-80s, but in very much the same spirit.
― dow, Tuesday, 9 November 2021 17:06 (two years ago) link