Belle & Sebastian live...

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I should add that Stuart's the most arrogant arse in music today, if you ask me. I've seen him grind fans into the carpet like a squished chip.

Thea (Thea), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 21:08 (twenty years ago) link

In what context? On the dancefloor?

N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 21:20 (twenty years ago) link

Radio live performance and interview.

Thea (Thea), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 21:21 (twenty years ago) link

What did he do that resembled grinding fans into the carpet like a squished chip?

N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 21:27 (twenty years ago) link

Perhaps you take me too literally. What I meant is that he was incredibly unpleasant to both the interviewer, the producer and to the small group of humble worshippers who convened to watch the recording. He had absolutely no interest in answering the questions in anything but monosyllables and was bitchy and horrible to everyone afterward.

If it had happened on the dancefloor, at least it'd have been entertaining to observe.

Thea (Thea), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 21:31 (twenty years ago) link

OK - it just runs contrary to all the dealings I've ever had with him or heard of (except Kate St Claire saying he was mean to her when he was being a soundman). Perhaps he was just having a bad day. There are plenty of other people working in music today about whom I've heard far more tales of arrogant arseishness.

N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 21:35 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah I wouldn't be so strident about it if some of my good friends werent' the huge fans who got squelched in that particular incident. I have never complained to them about my bordeom at Union Chapel, but this seemed like a good arena in which to vent. The unexpectedness of it shocked us all. I'm glad it's not chronic, with him. Lord knows he is loved.

Thea (Thea), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 21:42 (twenty years ago) link

I love the squished chip imagery.

El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 21:54 (twenty years ago) link

...in this case being Brit "chip" aka "french fry" as opposed to Yank "chip" aka "crisp".

Thea (Thea), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 22:05 (twenty years ago) link

the tickets are expensive, like skid row expensive.

keith m (keithmcl), Wednesday, 3 March 2004 01:57 (twenty years ago) link

A Skid Row concert once cost me my soul.

maypang (maypang), Wednesday, 3 March 2004 02:50 (twenty years ago) link

I saw them a couple days after 9/11 and it was too weird for the show to be truly enjoyable. But considering the circumstances they were great. They play a lot of obscure songs, too.

Sym (shmuel), Wednesday, 3 March 2004 08:32 (twenty years ago) link

i've seen them 4 times now. one in 97, it was awful but cute. then in 01, 02 and 03: the first two were amazingly good, the third a bit so-so... but i'm seeing them again on this tour, they're playing a beautiful theater and it should be a blast...
i don't agree about the supports: i saw them play with the magnetic fields first, and on this tour they come with adam green.

joan vich (joan vich), Wednesday, 3 March 2004 16:58 (twenty years ago) link

thirteen years pass...

Their live shows usually manage to turn up some hidden gem in their discography which I hadn't noticed before ("The Loneliness of the Middle Distance Runner" for example).

At their show the other night they played "Little Lou, Ugly Jack, Prophet John". I never really paid that song any attention before, maybe because the Norah Jones vocal makes it sound too adult contemporary for me. But in a less-overproduced live version, with Sarah on vocals rather than Norah Jones, it really stood out. That said, I just re-listened to the recorded version, and it doesn't do anything for me.

enochroot, Friday, 4 August 2017 19:21 (six years ago) link

they're great musicians, so their performances are always tight, and I do appreciate that they consistently tap into their back catalog.

but I'll never understand the appeal of the 'boy with the arab strap' on-stage dance party thing, and all their random twee antics can get in the way for me lol

KevRus, Saturday, 5 August 2017 01:05 (six years ago) link

I can sorta see that (just saw them do "arab strap" with on-stage audience dance party thing) and yes another song might be better for that, but somehow I still enjoyed it despite the twee cliches

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 22:14 (six years ago) link

The nice thing about the on-stage dance party is fat clumsy people like me get right up to the front when the front row people hop on stage; got setlists at their last two shows employing that manoeuvre

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 22:42 (six years ago) link

This tour was pretty sedate compared to their last; they played Electronic Renaissance last time they came to toronto! This time, not so much.

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 22:44 (six years ago) link

Drummer left behind at a truck stop: what's on your iPod?

Eazy, Wednesday, 16 August 2017 19:41 (six years ago) link

accidentally looked at the person stood next to me once at a gig (it was Murdoch) and the look he gave me back suggests to me the "squashed chip" theory upthread could be credible

PaulTMA, Thursday, 17 August 2017 09:13 (six years ago) link

I liked this band more when they were called The Beautiful South.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Thursday, 17 August 2017 12:18 (six years ago) link

Back in the day, one of my friends, a fellow habituee of the West End of Glasgow, used to call them the "24 Minute Party People", or was that the Pastels? Probably both.

Wewlay Bewlay (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 August 2017 12:36 (six years ago) link

'their support acts are always dreadful'
in 98 we had elliot smith, fresh from his oscar nomination.

― piscesboy, Tuesday, 2 March 2004 16:05 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh yes, i remember the '98 Shepherd's Bush show...bah.
;-)

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 16:09 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I went to that gig because a friend of mine bought me a ticket for my birthday knowing I liked indiepop music and he was into B&S... I'd heard If You're Feeling Sinister and thought it was alright but that was about it. Tbh I thought that gig was pretty awful. The sound was fucking terrible, could hardly hear anything. I hadn't heard of Elliot Smith and he was sat down playing solo acoustic so it just seemed like they'd brought a busker on tour with them. Maybe if I'd known his music it would've been better, but I was just bored.

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 17 August 2017 12:58 (six years ago) link


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