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Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 16 December 2002 17:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

I enjoy them (though I'm grateful for donut bitch's noting the wack production). "Ghost Town" is probably my favorite track. I know I'm asking for shit by saying this, but I'm surprised that everyone raves about the Specials but has such antipathy for the Clash.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 16 December 2002 23:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

I am just happy because someone at work was wearing a Specials t-shirt and I had never heard of them and then I come to ILM and here's a big ol' discussion on them and now I can go up to my coworker and talk about how great the first album is but how the production is all wacky and my coworker will think I know what I'm talking about and I will change the subject before the conversation gets too in-depth.

No, not really. But I am curious to hear them now.

Chris P (Chris P), Tuesday, 17 December 2002 00:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

I know I'm asking for shit by saying this, but I'm surprised that everyone raves about the Specials but has such antipathy for the Clash.

POO POO POO BEING THROWN AT YOU, ANTHONY.

Seriously though, my main point of contention with the Clash has nothing to do with their actual output. They've written a lot of great songs, but it took them several double-albums plus to get something worth that first Specials record (IMHO). There's a lot of great songs on "Sandinista" for instance. But it took them a triple-LP to get that many out. In brief, the Clash has a much poorer hit/miss ratio.

Also, there's this whole lingering distraction with the Clash involving them somehow being responsible for punk or something, which gets a little grating.

donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 17 December 2002 01:41 (twenty-one years ago) link

I'll admit the poorer/hit-miss ratio. But aren't the Specials to blame for the Bosstones and beyond?

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 17 December 2002 01:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

despite the fact that ska is the most made fun of genre of all time (because it is the most ridiculous) specials are totally classic hence the reason why so many high school kids get into ska, hence the outrageous high school ska fashion and amount of bands like funky brassSKA, the skalcoliques, SKArotum, skankin' pickle, fuck SKathority, bryan SKAdams etc... hence ska being the most made fun of, ridiculous genre of all time.


..yeah, so the specials are too blame for the bosstones, hand drawn black and white checkered stuff, plaid pants, but not skanks

ddd, Tuesday, 17 December 2002 03:33 (twenty-one years ago) link

I'll admit the poorer/hit-miss ratio. But aren't the Specials to blame for the Bosstones and beyond?

I can't even begin to name how many awful bands the Clash inspired. But come on, what's the point of this type of argument?

donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 17 December 2002 03:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

I wasn't really arguing. Just noting that both groups spawned a lot of cheese, so hating one for that and not the other would be kinda wack.

And before anybody chastises me for using the word wack, please remember that I'm Brian Austin Green.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 17 December 2002 04:02 (twenty-one years ago) link

eight months pass...
I much prefer 'More Specials' to the first album. Maybe it's because the first one is pretty straight down the line ska, and I'm not a mad ska fan. The second one mixes things up a lot more and comes up with something quite unique. Also, it has 'Stereotypes' on it.

N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 27 August 2003 15:52 (twenty years ago) link

five years pass...

so amazingly classic. i cant wait to see them in may.

always thought the album version of do nothing wasnt as good as the single one though.

uk grime faggot (titchyschneiderMk2), Thursday, 15 January 2009 20:03 (fifteen years ago) link

POO POO POO BEING THROWN AT YOU, ANTHONY

haha i hope i'm slightly older, mentally, than a schoolkid in 2009

Anyway, the 2001 remasters of the first three Specials CDs has (over?-)corrected a lot of the production issues of the original CD issues -- minus the unlisted bonus single tracks. (The Specials now lacks "Gangsters", More Specials now lacks "Rat Race", etc.) The original LPs, UK and US, still sound ace. The new CDs sound really nice.. almost too nice. :-/

Also, that 3-CD odds, ends, rarity comp is really really great.

909090909 Rivethed Brikkchin Reverk now DANZ (Mackro Mackro), Thursday, 15 January 2009 20:31 (fifteen years ago) link

Anyway, the 2001 remasters of the first three Specials CDs has (over?-)corrected a lot of the production issues of the original CD issues -- minus the unlisted bonus single tracks. (The Specials now lacks "Gangsters", More Specials now lacks "Rat Race", etc.) The original LPs, UK and US, still sound ace. The new CDs sound really nice.. almost too nice. :-/

But for novices, it's worth noting that the 2001 remasters simply restore the albums to their original UK release tracklistings, and the "missing" tracks - including alternate single versions of "Do Nothing" (etc) are all on the triple CD, which pretty much collects all the non-LP specials tracks from beginning to end with only a couple of tracks in the same versions as their album counterparts.

deedeedeextrovert, Thursday, 15 January 2009 20:48 (fifteen years ago) link

Recession, unemployment - now is surely the time for a major revival of this group

Dr X O'Skeleton, Thursday, 15 January 2009 21:01 (fifteen years ago) link

i heard Free Nelson Mandela on the radio just this morning. (why? i hate that song. luckily it was the bbc's iplayer and i could hit ffwd)

koogs, Thursday, 15 January 2009 22:31 (fifteen years ago) link

two months pass...

Nice. I've been listening to a bunch of second-wave ska stuff this morning, and christ the sound on the specials records is SOOOOOO bad. almost unlistenably so. i mean, yes, i like Madness and The Beat more, but not that much more. Glad to see I just need to make sure I have the 2001 remasters.

mitya, Sunday, 5 April 2009 08:44 (fifteen years ago) link

they are down as being on Jools Holland this tuesday(?) and (longer repeat) friday

koogs, Monday, 6 April 2009 08:55 (fifteen years ago) link

cool. i have a ticket for them in may but am wondering if i should sell it on ebay or not. spent 40 quid on it. i miss the days when concert tickets were cheaper.

Yellow Carded (titchyschneiderMk2), Monday, 6 April 2009 09:17 (fifteen years ago) link

my son was singing along to "Doesn't Make it Alright" tonight, felt a kind of glow

Dr X O'Skeleton, Monday, 6 April 2009 20:46 (fifteen years ago) link

two months pass...

"(What I like most about you is your) Girlfriend" has been stuck in my head for weeks. Perfect blend of menacing and ridiculous, and the video's great too.

Telephone thing, Friday, 26 June 2009 17:52 (fourteen years ago) link

one of the upcoming glastonbury broadcasts on BBCx is listed as 'The Specials'...

BBC4 Fri 26 Jun 2009 21:00
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00lc8ms

koogs, Friday, 26 June 2009 17:59 (fourteen years ago) link

oh, that was good. a field full of people dancing to Rudy in the sun.

koogs, Friday, 26 June 2009 21:22 (fourteen years ago) link

it wasnt bad. those songs are all still so good but it seemed like they were just kinda going through the motions. not really doing anything with the songs - just getting them out one after the other.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Friday, 26 June 2009 21:36 (fourteen years ago) link


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