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la haine-hype,hype,hype

francesco, Monday, 24 February 2003 13:33 (twenty-one years ago) link

destroy Amelie? is this because it irritates you that the film is perhaps too tailored towards the mainstream, or do you genuinely think its a bad film?

likewise - whats to dislike about La Haine?

stevem (blueski), Monday, 24 February 2003 13:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

Yes, La Haine is terrible.

Also terrible: Claude Lelouch. He gets a pass for inventing the, er, Lelouch, though.

Amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 24 February 2003 13:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

Amelie is the Norah Jones of contemporary movies.

Amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 24 February 2003 13:36 (twenty-one years ago) link

you're all dead inside

stevem (blueski), Monday, 24 February 2003 13:38 (twenty-one years ago) link

well maybe I've been too severe, you know I've got a friend who've been so obsessed with that movie that pushed me into critical extremism :) but, at the end of the day I think it's a little bit stereotypical mixture of past french cinema bits amour fou and stuff. but it's too decorative and nice. the first few minutes, tough, are amongst the best things happened to cinema that year.

francesco, Monday, 24 February 2003 13:38 (twenty-one years ago) link

P.S. I like Amelie.

Amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 24 February 2003 13:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

er...Amelie or La Haine?! i assume you mean the former

stevem (blueski), Monday, 24 February 2003 13:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

Search: Nikita, Le Boucher, Le Samourai

Ben Mott (Ben Mott), Monday, 24 February 2003 13:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

heh, felicity, did we talk about The Hairdresser's Husband? I saw it once with friends, we also rented Motel Hell. Motel Hell was better.

Those Who Love Me Can Take the Train is pretty good.

hstencil, Monday, 24 February 2003 14:38 (twenty-one years ago) link

sorry, "La Haine" is classic.

as is "The Self Made Hero"

"Amelie" proves you can't base an entire film out of some attractive bird staring doe-eyed at the camera.

DV (dirtyvicar), Monday, 24 February 2003 15:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

We need Nicole here for some good old fashioned Amelie hate. (My favorite character was the lawn gnome.)

No Ally on this thread yet?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 24 February 2003 16:12 (twenty-one years ago) link

More Search

Delicatessen
Le Jour Du Fete (My favorite Tati)
La Vaccance de M. Hulot
La Haine
Milou en Mai
Clubbed to Death
Doberman

Destroy
Amelie (or rather just feh)

Can anyone tell me what the film is that features Gerard Depardieu as a gay burglar who mugs a couple and ensnares them into his life of crime and buggery?

Ed (dali), Monday, 24 February 2003 16:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

Gigi. No, wait...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 24 February 2003 16:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

Destroy Amelie, for cryin' out loud. It's probably Le Pen's favourite movie...

And I personally could never stand Jacques Tati.

But that said, search away for Bande apart (Band of OUtsiders), Le Mépris (Contempt), Truffaut's Doinel movies, anything by Renoir (especially Grand Illusion + Rules of the Game), Les Parapluies de Cherbourg, errr. Lots more.

For more recent stuff I highly stuff by Ozon (Gouttes d'eau sur pierres brûlantes, Sous le sable--and 8 femmes is sort of a treat). Also Olivier Assayas' Irma Vep, one of my favourite movies and sadly underseen.

slutsky (slutsky), Monday, 24 February 2003 17:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

Also, they just released a Day For Night DVD with English subtitles. So I can finally see the damn thing.

slutsky (slutsky), Monday, 24 February 2003 17:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

i highly stuff ozon also, sitcom anyway

mark s (mark s), Monday, 24 February 2003 17:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

'shoot the pianist' is my favourite.

I like 'a woman is a woman' a lot, too.

I like 'amelie'.

'alphaville'!

RJG (RJG), Monday, 24 February 2003 17:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

Rivette's 'Celine and Julie Go Boating' and Eustache's 'Le Maman et la Putain'

Andrew L (Andrew L), Monday, 24 February 2003 17:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

Search
Baxter
Man Bites Dog
La Jetee

Destroy
Luc Besson's English Films

No One (SiggyBaby), Monday, 24 February 2003 17:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

Oh yeah, "Chloe in the Afternoon," Eric Rohmer.

slutsky (slutsky), Monday, 24 February 2003 17:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

amelie is the best film i have never seen

gareth (gareth), Monday, 24 February 2003 17:53 (twenty-one years ago) link

What else have you seen Gareth?

Andrew L (Andrew L), Monday, 24 February 2003 17:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

City of Lost Children is one of my favorite films ever.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 24 February 2003 18:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

search: Last Year at Marienbad! (bert you are wrong! - even if it was bad, you still get to watch Delphine Seyrig walking around Austrian Gardens - mmmm)

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 24 February 2003 18:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

most underrated French film: Un Homme et une Femme

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 24 February 2003 18:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

anyone seen Irreversible yet?

stevem (blueski), Monday, 24 February 2003 18:36 (twenty-one years ago) link

TV5 Latin america is goin to have a Tati special on march :-)

Chupa-Cabras (vicc13), Monday, 24 February 2003 19:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

Some French films I love:

Pretty much anything by Jean Renoir, Marcel Carne or written by Jacques Prevert or starring Jean Gabin. Favourite example of these classics: La Grande Illusion. Le Jour Se Leve and Quai Des Brumes and Pepe Le Moko need mentioning too.

Vigo's L'Atalante and Zero de Conduite.

all Godard's early films, especially those with Anna Karina. I even like most of his later ones.

Delicatessen and City Of Lost Children

Most of Truffaut's. Celine And Julie Go Boating, too.

Cyrano de Bergerac was great.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 24 February 2003 20:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

Truffaut is the king, particularly the first 4 Antoine Doinel ones (L'amour en fuite was disappointing). I like early Godard, esp. the Anna Karina ones. Masculin Feminin is good too, but I hate "week-end". Some Louis Malle, "Souffle au coeur", "Au revoir les enfants" and "Zazie dans le metro". "Le boucher" and "les biches" by Chabrol. The original "Cat People".

French film is way up its own arse these days, although I loved "La haine" and thought "Amelie" was gneuinely charming.

Special loathing for Eric Rohmer and Last year at Marienbad.

Tag (Tag), Monday, 24 February 2003 20:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

Seconded: Vigo's L'Atalante, Tati's Playtime (must be seen in the theater), Eustache's La Maman et la Putain, Resnais' Last Year at Marienbad.

Hiroshima Mon Amour as well, surely. Godard, all the obvious ones. Sadly I haven't yet explored any of his 80's work. Nouvelle Vague was good though. Malle's Ascenseur pour l'échafaud is good. I also really enjoyed Rivette's La Belle Noiseuse, though I can see why others may not.

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Monday, 24 February 2003 21:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

Re. '80s Godard: see First Name: Carmen and Hail Mary for starters.

Amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 24 February 2003 21:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

Destroy : Jean-Luc Godard!
::jumps up and down, screaming in falsetto, spitting::
destroy! DESTROY!! PRETENTIOUS ARTSY-FARTSY CRAP!!! DESTROYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!

ahem.

Search : anything by Bertrand Tavernier.

Wintermute (Wintermute), Monday, 24 February 2003 21:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

How are Breathless and Masucline-Feminine "pretentious artsy fartsy crap" (wonderful criticism, btw)? They're just cute little boy-meets-girls stories.

Resnais - now that's pretentious artsy fartsy craft. And I do lurve it so.

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Monday, 24 February 2003 21:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

Search PRETENTIOUS ARTSY-FARTSY CRAP

Vive la France!

Amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 24 February 2003 21:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

SANS SOLEIL
LA JETEE

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 24 February 2003 22:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

I'll second (third, first, whatever) these:

Cocteau - Testament of Orpheus, Beauty & Beast, Blood of Poet, etc.
Renoir - Day in the Country, Grand Illusion, etc.
Resnais - Last Year at Marienbad, Hiroshima Mon Amour
Carne - Children of Paradise
Goddard - Weekend, Alphaville
Jeunet

A Nairn (moretap), Monday, 24 February 2003 22:13 (twenty-one years ago) link

Mr. D, I'll give you Breathless, but what about Week-End and Le Mepris... ewww...

::shivers, twitches, grinds teeth::

Wintermute (Wintermute), Monday, 24 February 2003 22:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

Le Mepris showcases the worst (and a bit of the best) of early Godard methinks. My favorites of his early films: Breathless, Vivre sa vie, Pierrot le fou, Week End, La Chinoise.

Amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 24 February 2003 22:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

Weekend is a scream! You have no sense of humor!

What about the part where the workers eat the sandwich and talk about Marxism? It's gobs of fun!

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Monday, 24 February 2003 22:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

Godard - Une femme est une femme does it for me.

I guess I could include the Three Colours trilogy even though they were directed by a Pole - Red and White are my favourites. La Double vie de Veronique too.

For more French Polish, Polanski's "The tenant" is an oft forgotten piece of insane genius.

Tag (Tag), Monday, 24 February 2003 22:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

Weekend? Fun? It's just plain boring. It's like Buckaroo Baazai with politics instead of science fiction.

Wintermute (Wintermute), Monday, 24 February 2003 22:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

Buckaroo Banzai is boring? I love that movie!

hstencil, Monday, 24 February 2003 22:36 (twenty-one years ago) link

Then go see Weekend.

Wintermute (Wintermute), Monday, 24 February 2003 22:36 (twenty-one years ago) link

I think Le Mépris is terrific, if a bit hard to watch, especially with a significant other present.

slutsky (slutsky), Monday, 24 February 2003 22:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

was man bites dog belgian? i'm thinking yes...

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 24 February 2003 23:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

So what - Belgians speak French too! Search Chantal Akerman!

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Monday, 24 February 2003 23:11 (twenty-one years ago) link

That's the spirit! Search Rosetta and Le Fils.

Wintermute (Wintermute), Monday, 24 February 2003 23:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

Akerman's 'Jeanne Dielman' is my favorite film that I don't ever want to sit through again. I love it, but 3 cuts over 3 hours is brutal.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 24 February 2003 23:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

I've seen it three times and I was never angry with it. It means a bit more once you know what's coming.

Amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 24 February 2003 23:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

David Ehrenstein on Duras:

http://www.filmcomment.com/entry/the-films-of-marguerite-duras

this horrible, rotten slog to rigor mortis (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 16 October 2014 18:49 (nine years ago) link

can someone tell me how is Naked Childhood by Maurice Pialat (his debut).

seen lot's of praise , but almost no "official" Reviews

nostormo, Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:33 (nine years ago) link

it was produced by truffaut, and has things in common w/ 400 blows. there is some tough to watch animal cruelty, and some nakedly human performances that also might make you want to look away, if you weren't so transfixed by the truth of the acting. it is one of the great directorial debuts, certainly as good as anything else by Pialat (which is high praise imho)

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:45 (nine years ago) link

great. i will watch!

nostormo, Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:50 (nine years ago) link

thnx

nostormo, Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:50 (nine years ago) link

ILX search tells me i put it on my "best rep watches" for 2004, so that's the best i can do.

this horrible, rotten slog to rigor mortis (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:54 (nine years ago) link

oh cool Ehrenstein still writes besides trolling comments sections.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 October 2014 19:55 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

Jean Grémillon retro in NYC

http://www.movingimage.us/films/2014/11/21/detail/jean-grmillon/

Since the only ones that seem "available" digitally are Lumiere d'été, Remorques and Le ciel est à vous, another argument for quitting my job to go to rep screenings.

things lose meaning over time (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 19 November 2014 16:24 (nine years ago) link

two months pass...

anyone seen anything here? new Techine and Honore....

http://www.filmlinc.com/films/series/rendez-vous-with-french-cinema-2015

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 12 February 2015 16:07 (nine years ago) link

well Melvil Poupaud AND Anders Danielsen Lie are in Fidelio, l'odyssée d'Alice, so that's double-stud action...

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 12 February 2015 16:16 (nine years ago) link

I really liked Outside Satan. Quiet, contemplative violence, beautifully shot.

Dave fischer, Friday, 13 February 2015 05:10 (nine years ago) link

five months pass...
one year passes...

so the Pagnol trilogy from the '30s, what of it? Nick Pinkerton:

https://www.artforum.com/film/id=65686

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 5 January 2017 16:31 (seven years ago) link

I like. Didn't someone like Orson Welles say Raimu was his favorite actor or the world's best actor or something to that effect?

The Magnificent Galileo Seven (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 5 January 2017 16:35 (seven years ago) link

Wiki sez "was considered the ultimate actor by luminaries such as Alec Guinness, Marlene Dietrich, and Orson Welles."

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 5 January 2017 17:01 (seven years ago) link

My partner's french and this x-mas her brother gave me a buncha French popular classics: Yves Robert, "La Traversée De Paris" with Gabin and Bouvril, Coluche, a Lelouche movie with Lino Ventura and Jacques Brel, a buncha Louis de Funès movies that are supposedly much better than the Gendarme stuff. It's interesting how these mainstream things are much more obscure outside France than Rivette or Eustache even (Lelouche exempted - I gather we're not supposed to like him?).

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 6 January 2017 11:59 (seven years ago) link

I love some Lelouche and among my film loving friends in France - all in their late 20s-late 30s - his stuff is pretty much embraced. The one your partner got is fun - the pairing of Ventura and Brel never fails (see "L'Emmerdeur").

Actually have "La Traversée De Paris" lined up to watch. I haven't seen Bourvil in anything other than "Le Cercle Rouge" so seeing him do his thing as a comedian will probably be a little jarring at first.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 6 January 2017 14:33 (seven years ago) link

This looks great:

https://www.barbican.org.uk/film/event-detail.asp?ID=20802

xyzzzz__, Friday, 6 January 2017 16:25 (seven years ago) link

two years pass...

just a few days ago I was nearly going to suggest to my gf we watch "Going Places" ('74 Bertrand blier) cuz I knew it was expiring from Netflix and that it was French and she knows a bit of the language -- dodged a bullet there lmao, its not horror but it is like extreme nasty French misogyny/nihilism. its hard to be convincing and be like I swear I had no idea this was the subject matter! even when that is 100% true ~
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, September 30, 2015 12:08 PM

Rewatched this week (remembering hardly anything from decades back) and yeah this would never be distributed today...

But surely it is meant as a commentary on what we now call toxic masculinity? Or was Jeanne Moreau just a witting accomplice to misogyny?

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 23 May 2019 02:07 (four years ago) link

two months pass...

Finally watching the Pagnol Marseille trilogy on CC. Raimu reminds me of Gleason and Zero Mostel; I wonder if they saw his work.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 17:12 (four years ago) link

Gigi. No, wait...

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, February 24, 2003 11:35 AM (sixteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink

Search Gigi (Audry, 1949).

Urgent and key: Search Razzia Sur La Chnouf (Decoin, 1955; just released in a Region A Blu-ray by Kino Lorber)

Anne Hedonia (j.lu), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 18:00 (four years ago) link

also, the (first) US condensation of the Pagnol trilogy was directed by James Whale and written by Preston Sturges :o

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 18:12 (four years ago) link

eight months pass...

Also, xpost, what?

My Chess Hustler (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 3 May 2020 20:22 (three years ago) link

three months pass...

All seven episodes of Pialat's 1971 TV series The House in the Woods have now been uploaded to YT, with English subs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1aHhIVFRt8&list=PLh06URz4IJQ4iUTdz7ECikWiRvfLaeCXc&fbclid=IwAR2JjPTudCJuabeLkOKV5OBjLVoLQKWHC5OIkJzQ890BzUTbQ3aUY4z6COI

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 12 August 2020 15:49 (three years ago) link

👍👍👍

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 12 August 2020 15:57 (three years ago) link


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