The World Is POLLapsing Around Our Ears: REM's "Out of Time"

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Today is the kind of day where all I want to hear is the chorus of "Belong," over and over. Clear open blue sky, her breath, this song...Belong. OOOOoooooooOOoOooOOOOO

Doctor Casino, Friday, 1 April 2011 18:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Ha, "Radio Song" got lots of love, relatively speaking, and it's not just one of the worst R.E.M. songs, but one of the worst songs from a major act, ever.

This album and "Green" always surprise me when I put them on. "Document," too, to an extent. One third great, one third not, and one third songs I forgot were on there but which I'm happy to hear again once in a while.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 1 April 2011 19:34 (thirteen years ago) link

favourite deep cut on this is probably Texarkana

drugnet (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 1 April 2011 19:37 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...

The storm it came up strong
And shook the trees
And blew away our fear

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 3 June 2012 15:42 (eleven years ago) link

^ what i would've voted

balls, Sunday, 3 June 2012 18:50 (eleven years ago) link

half a world away
losing my religion
near wild heaven
country feedback
texarkana
me in honey
shiny happy people
endgame
belong
radio song
low

balls, Sunday, 3 June 2012 18:54 (eleven years ago) link

It would have been between 'Half A World Away' and 'Near Wild Heaven' for me. Unsure which one I would have went for.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Sunday, 3 June 2012 18:55 (eleven years ago) link

Their worst Bill Berry-era album

I'm going to keep posting this bit of rongness

go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 3 June 2012 20:46 (eleven years ago) link

OK, how about "Stipe's worst Bill Berry-era album, rescued by Mills"?

Hideous Lump, Sunday, 3 June 2012 21:02 (eleven years ago) link

I think you meant to say "Green."

go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 3 June 2012 21:03 (eleven years ago) link

Well OK, Green plus Monster would complete the trilogy-of-the-lessers, but at least Stipe showed up for the whole album on those two.

Hideous Lump, Sunday, 3 June 2012 21:26 (eleven years ago) link

"worst Bill Berry-era album" works for me

kel ler/pharmacists (some dude), Sunday, 3 June 2012 21:29 (eleven years ago) link

no "Hairshirt"s or "I Remember California"s or "The Wrong Child" on OOT though.

go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 3 June 2012 21:31 (eleven years ago) link

There are some good songs on OOT but probably not any I love as much as my favorites on most of their other albums, and I just hate the sound of it, almost as much as some of those anemic later albums. Automatic mines the same basic sonic territory in a way that manages to be both plainer and much, much richer.

kel ler/pharmacists (some dude), Sunday, 3 June 2012 21:38 (eleven years ago) link

At the time I certainly would have agreed with you. Automatic is the only good Scott Litt-era REM thing I never listen to (I wouldn't skip, say, "Monty Got a Raw Deal" if I heard it on someone's mix though).

go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 3 June 2012 21:40 (eleven years ago) link

i'd really like to know what someone in 2012 who had no sense of REM would make of this album

da croupier, Sunday, 3 June 2012 23:42 (eleven years ago) link

it probably would sound like the world collapsing around his ears

go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 3 June 2012 23:45 (eleven years ago) link

i mean berry-era REM is just so youth-defining that it feels surreal to picture hearing it for the first time already having a sense of musical history, but this album in particular is like Led Zep dipped in dork sauce with a dash of KRS-1.

da croupier, Sunday, 3 June 2012 23:47 (eleven years ago) link

for an album of strings, bass runs and mandolins kicked off by lite rap-funk it really wound up aptly named

da croupier, Sunday, 3 June 2012 23:49 (eleven years ago) link

tbh I have no idea how REM will play to "millennials."

go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 3 June 2012 23:53 (eleven years ago) link

I gotta ask students what if anything REM mean to them: maybe this irreconcilable combo of obscure and earnest

go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 3 June 2012 23:55 (eleven years ago) link

Not just earnestness, though. I think there's real human content in R.E.M.

timellison, Monday, 4 June 2012 00:14 (eleven years ago) link

Am I the only person who thinks there's a salvagably decent song inside "Radio Song"? The breakdown with Stipe singing the "everything to show/everything to hide" part over JPJ's immaculately-arranged strings really is beautiful.

Brony! Broni! Broné! (Phil D.), Monday, 4 June 2012 00:19 (eleven years ago) link

I do. The only song I'm meh about is "Belong." Right now, that is.

go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 4 June 2012 00:20 (eleven years ago) link

I think "Radio Song" is great, always have.

kel ler/pharmacists (some dude), Monday, 4 June 2012 00:22 (eleven years ago) link

can any of you hardcore heads help me make a playlist of every REM song with slap bass?

kel ler/pharmacists (some dude), Monday, 4 June 2012 00:23 (eleven years ago) link

"Finest Worksong" comes to mind.

go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 4 June 2012 00:24 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i think Document through "Ignoreland" is the halcyon era of fonky REM

kel ler/pharmacists (some dude), Monday, 4 June 2012 00:26 (eleven years ago) link

all day long

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oL6Gsm1AOmY

pplains, Monday, 4 June 2012 00:32 (eleven years ago) link

never understood the appeal of hearing one of the band's most plodding songs done in a big muff alt-rock style

kel ler/pharmacists (some dude), Monday, 4 June 2012 00:42 (eleven years ago) link

I think the question about millennials would have to do with the stylistic context of the album, but I don't think it goes deeper. Are people hearing it for the first time going to understand the historical context of '91 and R.E.M.'s own trajectory? Because there's a richness to R.E.M.'s thing; there's a richness to their roots and what they were trying to do with this album. That's in danger of being lost in too much fretting over their "dorkiness" or whatever.

timellison, Monday, 4 June 2012 00:45 (eleven years ago) link

REM's context is kind of lost to time, especially since now remembrances of 80s college rock and 90s alt-rock are so explicitly tied to bands that were only part of one or the other (and U2 left a bit bigger of a footprint that they don't have the same problem)

kel ler/pharmacists (some dude), Monday, 4 June 2012 00:55 (eleven years ago) link

People will have to explore it to understand the context, but you hear slap bass and mandolins and you wonder why they would. I have to remind myself that someone will hear "Me in Honey" and they've got their reason to explore it right there.

timellison, Monday, 4 June 2012 01:00 (eleven years ago) link

Hahaha. The song I woulda voted for got zero votes.

I can't listen to this album anymore but thought about 3/4 of it was pretty good at the time (last time I thought that of an REM album, too.)

It's certainly no FABLES.

Matt M., Monday, 4 June 2012 05:20 (eleven years ago) link

I don't know about worst Bill Berry-era REM album, but it's definitely somewhere down in the bottom half of the pile for me!

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Monday, 4 June 2012 05:58 (eleven years ago) link

I love "Radio Song", Stipey "rap" & all.

I didn't see this thread yesterday but weirdly I was thinking then about "Losing My Religion" & how it was an odd megahit, & then I remembered its outro & sighed.

I still think this is my favorite REM album, after all these years.

Euler, Monday, 4 June 2012 10:28 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

4 years ago I might have blindly voted "Country Feedback" based on memories alone but after hearing this album in it's entirety today at an event (in the bg), I was struck most by "Half A World Away".

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 24 July 2013 19:51 (ten years ago) link

think i need to put this on. i consider it a favourite but just looking at the tracks in the result there...there's not a lot to it, track by track.

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 24 July 2013 20:24 (ten years ago) link

Country Feedback is a great song but I have trouble listening to the album version since I first heard the slower live version. The album version feels like the club is closing in 4 minutes so they had to speed up the song to fit it in or something.

i've heard losing my religion a million times but it still strikes me as an astonishly perfect song.

Z S, Wednesday, 24 July 2013 20:38 (ten years ago) link

bloody terrible album this and i say that as a one-time teenage REM nutcase. the LPs either side were both incredible imo but this was just.. i mean what happened??

piscesx, Wednesday, 24 July 2013 20:44 (ten years ago) link

the cover art was pretty bad

akm, Wednesday, 24 July 2013 20:50 (ten years ago) link

Naming your record after the immediate deadline you've got for naming your record is never a good sign.

did you see what i did there.

pplains, Wednesday, 24 July 2013 21:05 (ten years ago) link

Half A World Away 4 votes, WTF. That's crazy.

One thing I never got, good song as it is, was Country Feedback's choice for live fan favourite for much of the late 90s/00s (ie when you actually hear OOT songs live) - it got a crazy amount of requests from websites etc. It is a very unexciting live song to me. It would always contain extended Buck soloing, and Peter Buck is not a good soloist IMO.

Master of Treacle, Wednesday, 24 July 2013 23:38 (ten years ago) link

Completely overexposed and I'm never always in the mood to listen to it but from purely a songwriting POV Losing My Religion is perfect.

Master of Treacle, Wednesday, 24 July 2013 23:41 (ten years ago) link

I dislike all three songs on this album Kate Pierson's on, and guess what, I really don't mind Kate Pierson.

pplains, Wednesday, 24 July 2013 23:43 (ten years ago) link

How can you not like "Me In Honey"?! That's crazy talk! You're crazy!

it itches like a porky pine sitting on your dick (Phil D.), Thursday, 25 July 2013 00:54 (ten years ago) link

I don't really rate 'Me In Honey' either, fwiw. I don't hate it, but it's not one of my favourites either.

I wanna live like C'MOWN! people (Turrican), Thursday, 25 July 2013 01:01 (ten years ago) link

Hnnnnnnnngggggggh, hnnnnnngggggh-hnnnngggghhh.

It's not horrible, but c'mon.

pplains, Thursday, 25 July 2013 02:00 (ten years ago) link

One thing I never got, good song as it is, was Country Feedback's choice for live fan favourite for much of the late 90s/00s (ie when you actually hear OOT songs live) - it got a crazy amount of requests from websites etc.

I think this is because Stipe was frequently quoted in interviews as saying it was his favorite.

But "Me In Honey" was, is, and always will be the best song on Out of Time. Though "Belong" has grown on me with time.

And I see "Losing My Religion" as a reprise of "World Leader Pretend."

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 25 July 2013 02:10 (ten years ago) link

Think I voted for Low, and I'll stand by that.

pplains, Thursday, 25 July 2013 02:17 (ten years ago) link

Oh I just realized I have already said all this in this thread again and again over the years, sorry

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 13 November 2021 01:47 (two years ago) link

I like "Half a World Away" and could do without every other song on this. R.E.M.'s weakest record.

Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 13 November 2021 02:06 (two years ago) link

Texarkana -> Country Feedback -> Me in Honey

greatest 3 song run in their catalog imo

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Saturday, 13 November 2021 03:40 (two years ago) link

The top two are correct. In fact I might even go so far as to say they're all time top 5 REM for me

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Sunday, 14 November 2021 23:42 (two years ago) link

I think I like every song on here. Even Radio Song I really don't mind. I can give or take LMR though

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Sunday, 14 November 2021 23:44 (two years ago) link

Give or take? Take or leave

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Monday, 15 November 2021 00:09 (two years ago) link

Went looking for Spitting Image's 'Whiny Crappy People' parody but it's not on Youtube. I recall it had Mike Mills as the lead vocalist, playing double bass like in the SHP video. Why?

PaulTMA, Monday, 15 November 2021 00:18 (two years ago) link

Texarkana -> Country Feedback -> Me in Honey

greatest 3 song run in their catalog imo

― Western® with Bacon Flavor, F

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 15 November 2021 00:28 (two years ago) link


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