Miami Dolphins Thread of Despair

idk dudes i'd rather givie cam 2 more years tbh than bring in another unproven coach and hope his 3 year plan works esp. if that dude is the offensive line coach of the cowboys

here's your future
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i mean when does this cycle of coaches being here for 1-2 years going to stop. if one miraculously goes 6-10 in his first year??? bcuz when parcells inevitably leaves in 3 years after we go 8-8 where does that leave us and our sopranos-extra of a coach??

A: where we are right now

I don't want to bring in another unproven coach either but I don't see how Cam is any better.

He looked overwhelmed out there on the sidelines and he telegraphed his playcalls frequently. Some will say out of necessity, I will say that's being a chickenshit coach.

and fyi I'm usually not a proponent of firing a coach in his first year but I didn't see much of an improvement throughout the year and the team seemed to be playing well below its talent level at the beginning of the year.

aka, revisionists have demonized Saban, but that 2005 was a team that played above its talent level, and even at 3-7 I supported him before the improbable 6 game winning streak.

Not downplaying what Saban did was wrong but it's amazing that he was suddenly the worst coach of all time after he left.

what is going to be soprano's excuse when we go 3-13 next year??? shit just happens in the nfl where sometimes the quality of the coach doesn't matter all that much. cam was probably the most sought after OC when he was in san diego and we're going to kick him out after a year? idk

all i'm saying is:
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BASICALLY WHAT ALL MY CONVOLUTED POSTS WANT TO SAY IS:
someone has to be here for 2-3 minimum to turn this thing around. why not let it be cam?? who has better credentials that's out there right now?? a great sought-after coordinator? that's what cam was!!! are they going to fire him bcuz they don't like his 'demeanor'?? plenty of stoic coaches are successful.

what is going to be soprano's excuse when we go 3-13 next year???

He won't have an excuse. This is a bad team. Parcells knows it. The Dolphins management -- finally -- knows and accepts it. These diminished (and realistic) expectations lay the groundwork for a bad 2008/2009 campaign without the coach needing to be fired afterward.

But Cam/Cam needs to go. First, he either misapprehended or wasn't forthcoming about the Dolphins talent level (he likely did this so he could tell the Dolphins' owner that Miami was close to being a playoff team (something Wayne wanted to hear from the last several coaches)). Second, he bet wrong on Trent Green. Now, mistakes of that sort can be made, but Green ultimately got hurt with exactly the type of injury that made him a question mark in the offseason. Third, he mismanaged the clock and personnel (e.g., keeping Lorenzo Booker on the sidelines for most of the season). Fourth, he doesn't have the respect of his players (from what I read in the Herald) and doesn't inspire confidence (from what I've seen at his post-game conferences).

I understand the desire for coaching and philosophical stabiliy, I really do. But the value you get from such stabilty has to be weighed against the damage done by having the wrong coach. Cam/Cam has to go.

Denny Green is out there. Just sayin'.

No thx.

I wonder if Parcells would work with Marty.

RIP

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A lot of teams need OC's... Cam Cameron to the 49ers? To Detroit?

WHOOOO-HOOOOOOO!

please pay your respects

Thanks Cam for the one victory you could barely muster

*cue 1,343434334 dolphin fans whining about injuries...*

i obviously have not really kept up with dude's career but i know tony sparano a little bit from his unh days and he was always pretty respected and liked in ct for running a really good program. clearly, that doesnt mean jack about if he'd be a good HC in mia or atl.

first time I read that I thoughtit said Tony Soprano

I'm torn. On the one hand, I agree that Miami needs help everywhere, which cuts in favor of having more picks (not just the overall No. 1). On the other hand, I'm not sure I trust the team's management to make good decisions in the draft, which cuts in favor of selecting the overall No. 1, who may be more of a sure thing (or, put differently, making the draft mistake-proof, even for possibly inept management).

Out of curiosity, has your opinion changed any now that we have Ireland/Parcells? (Not saying it has to, but just curious...)

mel kiper: on crack?

• The Miami Dolphins need help on defense and Bill Parcells is a defensive-minded coach, so DT Glenn Dorsey would be the logical pick. And while the Dolphins could listen to trade offers for the top pick, there has not been a lot of movement in the top 10 in recent drafts. Why did Adrian Peterson slip to No. 7 last year? Because teams weren't willing to trade up knowing they would have to part with draft picks and pay more money for the higher pick. Also for Miami, QB Matt Ryan has to be in the discussion because the Dolphins may not be sold on John Beck (a second-round pick last year). Miami needs quarterback help and Ryan is going to be a top-five pick. Ryan might be too good to pass up, and he's a better prospect than Beck was when he came out of BYU last year. (Ryan is the only QB I am projecting will go in the first round).

I dunno, I don't think anything he said is without merit.

He's oft been critical of Miami's draft picks in the past too....

although I would prefer we trade the top pick, yes.

Quarterbacks often go too high in the draft and this seems like a down year for the position. The best bet would be to trade the picks if you can.

Yea, I mean, I'm not sure we really got a good idea of Beck last year. A rookie QB with no reliable Tight End to throw to, an inexperienced #1 wide receiver, aging #2 receiver, non-existent #3, depleted running back depth, and an offensive line that is extremely weak on the left side, on a horrible team? C'monnnnnnnn!

Although I think we've finally got something going at center with Satele. If Miami can finally build a solid offensive line through the draft over time...the bad QB curse will end.

i was assuming that whomever put the idea of the 'phins taking ryan with the #1 pick did so as a smoke screen to try to entice atlanta into trading for the top pick.

I REALLLLLY don't see Miami taking a QB at #1. Parcells built Romo out of an undrafted QB. Unless he sees a real dud in Beck, I think he knows what other holes to fill on the team.

You have to trade the pick, but I can see Parcells taking Dorsey. he loves guys like that

you have to TRY to trade the pick but no one wants the #1 pick anymore.

Dallas will take it, I bet. Jones wants McFadden, and he's dumb enough to do it.

jerry jones, yeah, i was trying to think the other day who might be stupid enough to trade for the first pick besides al davis. jones probably would. i think snyder has been burned enough times that when his football people tell him not to touch the stove he defers to them.

Plus, Snyder doesn't really covet draft picks, he likes to build through ludicrously overpriced free agent signings.

dude woulda signed Bubby Brister to a 5 year, 70 million dollar contract....

i look forward to seeing zach thomas playing linebacker for the pats next year.

and dan morgan!

the konkussion klub

i think the pats have the only linebacking corps(e) where zach thomas could be thought of as the young guy.

Pats made an offer!

Are they going to offer Jack Ham and Carl Banks contracts too?

did jack ham or carl banks have career highs in tackles last year? are either of them younger than the pats two current starting inside linebackers?

did jack ham or carl banks have career highs in tackles last year?

i know zach thomas didnt, cuz nigga spent half the year concussed as all get out~

Get over your dreaming, Zach's a Cowboy!

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AlSq9f3J7EhfAahmfKZ8loRDubYF?slug=ap-cowboys-thomas&prov=ap&type=lgns

For once a Dolphin fan favorite doesn't go to the Patriots, AND goes to the other conference. I'm happy for him though, although I wish his Dolphins career didn't have to end on such a down note. At least he might have one more chance at winning something.

I was kind of looking forward to seeing the Pats sign him. Then they would have had a great linebacking corps-for 1995. Seriously, Bruschi,Vrabel, Seau and the Thomas brothers? Their games would have had to been shown on ESPN Classic.

Better, but still bleh.

Once the running game settles in, we may be able to win a few that we shouldn't have, but God is it disappointing to give up two gimme TDs to Favre without really making him work for them.

haha this thread has 295 posts

blah blah they are on the right track yada yada wake me up when ted ginn breaks out

id like to point out that i've been otm in this thread