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I can see the class action suit now. "They said Time Machine would back it up, but my disk died and I lost it all, my novel and all my photographs. Coming after the iPod battery I think this is just too much from Apple." TUAW will also become v. angry at this growing Partition Scandal.

stet, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 13:14 (sixteen years ago) link

It's hard to get too excited about a back-up solution, really. Spaces could be useful, I suppose. Better previewing with skimming? What else is there ..?.. transparent menu bars! I may be a while upgrading to Leopard.

Alba, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 13:30 (sixteen years ago) link

I felt that about Tiger, and was right then too. It's hard to tell how it's better than Panther, and it's much slower on the mini.

stet, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 13:34 (sixteen years ago) link

I'll be waiting till at least .1 for this.

Ed, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 13:44 (sixteen years ago) link

I may be wrong, but I think if you have a recentish machine then Tiger starts up faster than Panther. Certainly my MacBook feels like it's faster booting than my old eMac was when it was new. Not that I'm often doing it.

I wonder if there's any chance they'll fix memory management in any way, or if that's something that has to be done at the app level. Browsers (Safari esp) seem to just grab ridiculous amounts of RAM if it's left running for a while. Actually I think Safari is just particularly crap because it also seems to sometimes go nuts and start using 90% of the CPU as well.

Alba, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 13:47 (sixteen years ago) link

I hope that you can downgrade to safari 2.0 as well... 3.0 is worse than IE 5.0

czn, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 13:52 (sixteen years ago) link

I'll probably get it soon, if only for the updates in Mail and iCal and other synching type stuff.

Dandy Don Weiner, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 13:58 (sixteen years ago) link

I thought you used Opera, N? I switched to it from Safari 3 which is a dog like czn says

stet, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 14:13 (sixteen years ago) link

I used Opera for a long time. But the thing that got me to switch was it not working with Scrabulous instant messages! I would consider going back if that resolved itself (maybe it has, with new Scrabulous update, I'll check later) though I spent so long modding Safari to get it to do things I want (like mouse gestures) that I'm kind of reluctant. Safari is OK for me as long as I quit and restart it every so often (am sometimes forced to do so - grr beach ball). The lack of any download management options does my head in a bit - haven't properly checked if this can be fixed with a mod. OK, so I do hate Safari. It's much faster than Opera at starting up though. Opera bounces several times in the dock even with my brand newish MacBook. Time to try Firefox again, maybe.

Alba, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 14:29 (sixteen years ago) link

I remember you finding out I used Opera before and you raised your eyebrows and said: "Far be it from me to criticise a man's choice of browser".

Alba, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 14:36 (sixteen years ago) link

Did I? What a tit.

stet, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 15:51 (sixteen years ago) link

Anyway, this is not lust.

Alba, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 16:02 (sixteen years ago) link

I dunno, I really like that speed dial page.

stet, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 16:06 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh, that was wank. It suddenly started appearing and it took me ages to work out how to get rid of it.

Alba, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 16:13 (sixteen years ago) link

too much wanking on this thread

Bob Six, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 19:57 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/300.html

Alba, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 19:58 (sixteen years ago) link

.Mac sync for Dock items! That's £69 + £129 well spent.

stet, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 20:01 (sixteen years ago) link

I wasn't going to upgrade because my computer is slow enough with Tiger as is (I have the first g5 tower) but I can't resist and I can really use better synching btw mac mail/address book and yahoo.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 20:56 (sixteen years ago) link

OK, Scrabulous instant messages do work if you hit the submit button and not the return key. Perhaps I can live with this and will revert to Opera. It doesn't seem to bounce in the dock lots of times before launching anymore. OS X is a mystery to me.

Alba, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 21:21 (sixteen years ago) link

legitimate 3rd party iphone & itouch apps coming next year, i think this will become a big deal and makes both of them a lot more attractive
http://www.apple.com/hotnews/

zappi, Wednesday, 17 October 2007 15:44 (sixteen years ago) link

yr quicker than digg!!

Alan, Wednesday, 17 October 2007 15:47 (sixteen years ago) link

"my computer is slow enough with Tiger as is (I have the first g5 tower)"

this does not work. do you have like 48k of ram or something ?!

Alan, Wednesday, 17 October 2007 15:49 (sixteen years ago) link

legitimate 3rd party iphone & itouch apps coming next year,
sweet. I'm well making an ILX one.

stet, Wednesday, 17 October 2007 16:00 (sixteen years ago) link

what, that killfiles everyone, then points the browser at something more worthwhile?

grimly fiendish, Wednesday, 17 October 2007 16:18 (sixteen years ago) link

According to TUAW, the French iPhones are going to be sold either on Orange or unlocked (locking is illegal there). That might be worth a trip over for.

stet, Wednesday, 17 October 2007 16:39 (sixteen years ago) link

That almost makes up for them being the ones to cause ALL euro iPods to be volume limited.

stet, Wednesday, 17 October 2007 16:50 (sixteen years ago) link

app i'd like to see : an Ounden/Elite Beat Agent ripoff game that syncs to the bpm of any mp3 you play.

zappi, Wednesday, 17 October 2007 16:55 (sixteen years ago) link

<i>"my computer is slow enough with Tiger as is (I have the first g5 tower)"

this does not work. do you have like 48k of ram or something ?!</i>

What do you mean? I have 3 gigs of ram.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 17 October 2007 18:59 (sixteen years ago) link

replace < with [ of course.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 17 October 2007 19:00 (sixteen years ago) link

Some of the first G5s were weirdly slow. We got one to replace a top-end G4 and it definitely felt a lot slower at some things.

stet, Wednesday, 17 October 2007 19:09 (sixteen years ago) link

Mine was fast until Tiger. Recently I had to rebuild everything and loaded 10.3.9 and it was blazing, relatively, then loaded 10.4 and it wasn't as hot, then actually started putting applications on and using them and...eh. When I work on site I'm on like quad core intels with 50 gigawats of ram.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 17 October 2007 21:36 (sixteen years ago) link

Hmm - on my old 600MHz G4 (with only 512MB RAM at the time) moving to Tiger didn't really affect the speed much at all. It's weird how much people's experiences vary.

Alba, Wednesday, 17 October 2007 21:41 (sixteen years ago) link

700MHz, rather.

Alba, Wednesday, 17 October 2007 21:42 (sixteen years ago) link

The startup speed is hard to judge too, since the animation doesn't really reflect anything, other than a value stored the *last* time it booted. You can see it by running
/usr/libexec/WaitingForLoginWindow
in terminal.

To quit it type killall WaitingForLoginWindow

stet, Wednesday, 17 October 2007 22:10 (sixteen years ago) link

I would like a flickr upload application and a beatport/amazon mp3 application, please.

czn, Friday, 19 October 2007 11:54 (sixteen years ago) link

there is a flickr app

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Friday, 19 October 2007 11:56 (sixteen years ago) link

fuck .mac -- that shit should be free

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Friday, 19 October 2007 11:57 (sixteen years ago) link

Apple's making a ton of investment in dynamically typed languages -- esp. Python and Ruby

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Friday, 19 October 2007 11:58 (sixteen years ago) link

Podcast Producer on OS X Server = Ruby
Wiki Server = (Twisted) Python

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Friday, 19 October 2007 11:59 (sixteen years ago) link

Wide Area Bonjour
Access your Macs, at home or on the road, with a single consistent host name. Use this host name whether you’re behind a NAT gateway or hopping across DHCP servers.

OK THIS IS AWESOME

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Friday, 19 October 2007 11:59 (sixteen years ago) link

there are like 10 flickr upload apps!

Tracer Hand, Friday, 19 October 2007 12:01 (sixteen years ago) link

I'll probably get Leopard around .1 at the office and as soon as I read the first reactions to preloaded machines at home.

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Friday, 19 October 2007 12:04 (sixteen years ago) link

quicksilver is way faster and better than Spotlight

-- Dandy Don Weiner, Wednesday, October 10, 2007 3:48 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Link

This is untrue now.

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Friday, 19 October 2007 12:06 (sixteen years ago) link

You mean "now" as in with Leopard?

Alba, Friday, 19 October 2007 12:12 (sixteen years ago) link

apologies, I meant I want a flickr upload app/beatport/amazon mp3 app for my ipod touch

czn, Friday, 19 October 2007 12:13 (sixteen years ago) link

Spotlight is a dog on Tiger whereas Quicksilver is zoomy.

czn, Friday, 19 October 2007 12:14 (sixteen years ago) link

Actually I've noticed spotlight improved a lot in the point releases of Tiger!

czn, go to some god damn gay howbrew development forum

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Friday, 19 October 2007 13:13 (sixteen years ago) link

Amazon doesn't even sell mp3s in this country yet, cozen.

Alba, Friday, 19 October 2007 13:17 (sixteen years ago) link

how the hell is wide area bonjour going to work? That's awesome, tho

stet, Friday, 19 October 2007 13:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Maybe something to do with back to my mac?

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Friday, 19 October 2007 13:22 (sixteen years ago) link


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