★ The Weeknd ★ What You Need ★

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yeah im basing this off the three songs ive heard so i need to hear the full record

D-40, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 16:02 (thirteen years ago) link

my favourite r&b albums of 2011 so far are the kandi and marsha ambrosius, and the diddy/dirty money and dawn richard mixtapes

lex pretend, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 16:06 (thirteen years ago) link

kinda loving this. does read a lot like htdw w/ "better" singing

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 18:57 (thirteen years ago) link

this music is designed for sex+weed

gr8080, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 19:10 (thirteen years ago) link

this thread is gonna turn me into the lex

D-40, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 19:10 (thirteen years ago) link

smoke weed listen to sade imo

D-40, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 19:10 (thirteen years ago) link

sade makes me think of middle aged ladies

gr8080, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 19:13 (thirteen years ago) link

comment on karagarga:

The-Dream's infatuation with girls has made him the biggest pimp on earth. The Weeknd's infatuation with girls has made him painfully lonely, sorrowful and filled with heartache. Everybody else sits somewhere in between.

gr8080, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 19:13 (thirteen years ago) link

karablabla

blingee cummings (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 19:14 (thirteen years ago) link

The Weeknd's infatuation with girls has made him painfully lonely, sorrowful and filled with heartache

fkn inadequate indie losers

lex pretend, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 19:14 (thirteen years ago) link

sade makes me think of middle aged ladies

― gr8080, Tuesday, March 22, 2011 7:13 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

with which u are v familiar obv

D-40, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 19:16 (thirteen years ago) link

OK, this/these IS/ARE the person/people with the song containing "watch me knock your boots off." ("Would you like some making fuck/BERSERKER.")

What I've heard sounds shriveled and (like Lex said) forced.

Andy K, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 19:23 (thirteen years ago) link

ha glad im not alone w/ lex on this one no offense lex

D-40, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 19:24 (thirteen years ago) link

kmt

lex pretend, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 19:24 (thirteen years ago) link

lol you guys like jamie woon and harsh on this smh

gr8080, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 19:29 (thirteen years ago) link

havent heard the lp yet but 'night air' >>>>

grady just listen to R&B

D-40, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 19:32 (thirteen years ago) link

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gr8080, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 19:38 (thirteen years ago) link

xpost. ^ that's what's so wrong about your opinions. fuck all this "just listen to the real thing". it might not be the best songwriting (dunno yet), he def overuses the word 'fuck', but from what i've heard, he/they create a really great mood.

jaxon, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 19:38 (thirteen years ago) link

j shep!

http://twitter.com/jawnita/status/50279876359499776

jawnita

If u fuck with the weeknd and don't fux with loleatta holiday, I probably hate you
6 minutes ago via OpenBeak

lex pretend, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 19:39 (thirteen years ago) link

What about Donnie Holloway?

Andy K, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 19:40 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah i dont like the real thing, sorry

gr8080, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 19:41 (thirteen years ago) link

my version is if you fux with the weeknd but don't fux with actual r&b, yr opinion is void

lex pretend, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 19:43 (thirteen years ago) link

like seriously what motivates people to go check out the weeknd and stan for them but pretty much ignore marsha ambrosius or trey songz or kandi?

lex pretend, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 19:43 (thirteen years ago) link

listening to 'hope she cheats on you (w/a basketball player) from marsha ambrosius, and i get the comparisons, but what i don't like about this, and what i do like about the weeknd, is the production. it's too big. i like some dirt in my recordings. i mean, calling me indie is just kinda ridiculous if you even knew what kind of music i listen to. i spend 99.5% of my time listening to music pre-1995. occasionally i get hold of something current that's a bit different, or revivalist or something, and only like it because it's not like everything else out there.

jaxon, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 19:44 (thirteen years ago) link

their cover art isnt indie-looking enough to draw my attention, sorry
xpost

gr8080, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 19:44 (thirteen years ago) link

this is the one by marsha a.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1TiM7dN5R8

lex pretend, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 19:47 (thirteen years ago) link

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― gr8080, Tuesday, March 22, 2011 7:38 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah but the lead single i think is p bad & thats like everyones fav cut

D-40, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 19:51 (thirteen years ago) link

jaxon did u like trey songz 'unfortunate'

D-40, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 19:51 (thirteen years ago) link

i dig that marsha ambrosius jam. does the rest of the record sound like that, or is this just her prince homage?

adult music person (Jordan), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 19:57 (thirteen years ago) link

trey songz has many fine singles but 'house of balloons' >>> the last two trey songz lps

blingee cummings (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 19:58 (thirteen years ago) link

also it's pretty easy to see why ppl would fuck w/ this & not marshia ambrosious or kandi!! like, it's really patently obvious!

blingee cummings (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 19:59 (thirteen years ago) link

(honestly i like 'what you need' more though, it's got an atmosphere that sucks me in immediately)

xp

adult music person (Jordan), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 20:00 (thirteen years ago) link

i dig that marsha ambrosius jam. does the rest of the record sound like that, or is this just her prince homage?

pretty much all sounds like that - don't think it's a classic album or anything, some of the songs don't quite work, but the sound is consistent and at its best it's rather incredible

lex pretend, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 20:02 (thirteen years ago) link

also it's pretty easy to see why ppl would fuck w/ this & not marshia ambrosious or kandi!! like, it's really patently obvious!

i don't really see why people who enjoy something that sells itself as r&b-derived should be uninterested in actual r&b at all

lex pretend, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 20:03 (thirteen years ago) link

im not sure lex's examples are the best ones to make a pt with -- hes comparing, like, stuff that came out recently & is R&B at some level, which is like, if you're looking for the vibe u get from weeknd you wont find it in a kandi lp.

D-40, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 20:03 (thirteen years ago) link

lex i think that argument hurts your case here

D-40, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 20:04 (thirteen years ago) link

like, i think 'actual R&B' is better than jamie lidell too, but then theres lots of 'actual R&B' that is as bad or worse. just relying on that authenticity argument is kind of empty & pointless. if weeknd was more 'real' it wouldnt necessarily make him 'better'.

D-40, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 20:05 (thirteen years ago) link

if you're looking for the vibe u get from weeknd you wont find it in a kandi lp.

― D-40, Tuesday, March 22, 2011 4:03 PM (8 seconds ago) Bookmark

this is what i'm saying -- the vibe & sound of the weeknd is not something you'd pick up in the jazmine sullivan album

blingee cummings (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 20:05 (thirteen years ago) link

that said i think there is lots of R&B that gets this vibe. & doesnt have weird stiff lyrics & anemic songwriting

i feel like theres a copout where if its weird or vaguely indie it gets a pass in the songwriting dept., or the performing dept. i dont really buy the 'it cant be compared to R&B because its not JUST R&B' when it suffers by some R&B standards imo but no one can articulate what its doing that R&B doesnt

D-40, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 20:08 (thirteen years ago) link

anyway ill listen to the rest of this on the way home from work before weighing in more

D-40, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 20:08 (thirteen years ago) link

that said i think there is lots of R&B that gets this vibe. & doesnt have weird stiff lyrics & anemic songwriting

this is also true -- if lex's argument was why would you fuck w/ the weeknd but not the-dream or diddy-dirty money then he might be onto something

blingee cummings (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 20:09 (thirteen years ago) link

i feel like theres a copout where if its weird or vaguely indie it gets a pass in the songwriting dept., or the performing dept.

lots of stuff that is sonically weird or interesting gets a pass in the songwriting/performing depts, genre aside

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 20:09 (thirteen years ago) link

i agree n/a i just dont think this is weird enough

D-40, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 20:10 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah the albums i cited don't aim for the same vibe at all but to be uninterested in them while stanning for the weeknd is still telling imo.

no one can articulate what its doing that R&B doesnt

yeah this is my issue too.

anyway i have to go, i have a date

lex pretend, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 20:11 (thirteen years ago) link

no one can articulate what its doing that R&B doesnt

― D-40, Tuesday, March 22, 2011 4:08 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

well i mean there IS some pretty clear aesthetic stuff -- i.e. "what you need" is heavy on the james blake EP style

blingee cummings (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 20:11 (thirteen years ago) link

altho i think the deadpan vocals really hurt that song

blingee cummings (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 20:12 (thirteen years ago) link

also lol @ ppl poo-pooing the weeknd for SWEARING TOO MUCH

gr8080, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 20:16 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah i don't get that at all

blingee cummings (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 22 March 2011 20:17 (thirteen years ago) link

iirc its not a moral argument its about how it disrupts the tone & overall aesthetic

D-40, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 20:19 (thirteen years ago) link

jaxon did u like trey songz 'unfortunate'
― D-40, Tuesday, March 22, 2011 7:51 PM (42 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

just got back from lunch and am listening to this. yes. it's pretty great. i listen to the radio pretty frequently in the car, so it's not like i don't like 'real r'n'b'. i think all i've heard of his is Bottoms Up. pretty generic radio pop, but this is more the vibe i'm looking for.

i also really like this song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4GJVOMjCC4

jaxon, Tuesday, 22 March 2011 20:41 (thirteen years ago) link


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