To what degree will you support musicians who (openly, possibly or jokingly) include racist, sexist, homophobic, or bigoted messages in their music, or who privately hold such beliefs?

aerosmith just said what I was going to say, only better. Like, there are nontrivial differences between ME NO LIKE and "rhythm based music [is] brainless, tuneless, cynical." See if you can suss out what some of them might be, Bill Magill!

I mean, if you can't see how JUST FOR EXAMPLE, the late-70s anti-disco attitudes that led to, among other things, the disastrous Detroit Tigers' "Disco Demolition Night" was tied up in some nasty anti-gay and anti-black shit, you might be . . . what's the phrase? . . . a fucking retard.

Wait did I miss something, why's everyone piling on Bill Magill? It was Geir who said that?

somebody who'd never actually heard music and/or knew nothing about it

Geir in a nutshell amirite

so glad this has turned into a geir thread now *sigh* I'm outta here

xp The idea that if somebody doesnt like disco or rap makes them racist is so stupid, it's really not worth discussing.

― Thraft of Cleveland (Bill Magill), Tuesday, March 22, 2011 11:16 AM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark

I'm sorry Phil D., you are one of my favorite posters, but the "ME NO LIKE" phrase kinda makes me want to pluck out my eyes.

you're losing them Phil D., better bring out the flapping dickie

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"attacking disco, or other rhythm based music, for being brainless, tuneless, cynical" (your earlier phrasing, Bill)

I never said this, Aerosmith. Plus I dont feel that way at all. I was quoting another poster.

promised myself I wasn't going to participate in this thread & should be doing laundry but "attacking disco, or other rhythm based music, for being brainless, tuneless, cynical" (your earlier phrasing, Bill) is a little different from "not liking" (your later revision). Like, if you claim to like music but can listen to disco and say it's "brainless, tuneless" congrats you are HIGHLY QUESTIONABLE because musicianship on the level of Chic can be a lot of things - you could attack is at sterile, obsessed by tecnique, buncha looks you could come at it with" - but "brainless, tuneless"? nope, something else going on w/you if that's yr claim, because only somebody who'd never actually heard music and/or knew nothing about it would say that about Chic

not at all a bad point, but the "earlier phrasing" attributed to Bill here was actually said by Geir, and beating him up for calling disco "brainless/tuneless/cynical" when he actually didn't (& instead merely objecting to being called 'racist bcz he doesn't like disco) and then doing a grandstanding dogpile on him is probably not conducive to the kind of reasoned and thoughtful discussion that this thread deserves...I've sb'd Geir for the n-bomb cuz it really wasn't called for: you were absolutely right in an earlier post on some other thread about people round here just jumping at the bit to start using that word, and it's about time it stopped, and no, racism threads are not a good excuse...

xp to Bill -- alright nevermind, and sorry for saying that inferring that you don't like disco...

aerosmith just said what I was going to say, only better. Like, there are nontrivial differences between ME NO LIKE and "rhythm based music is brainless, tuneless, cynical." See if you can suss out what some of them might be, Bill Magill!

― Anti-mist K-Lo (Phil D.), Tuesday, March 22, 2011 11:27 AM (30 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
I mean, if you can't see how JUST FOR EXAMPLE, the late-70s anti-disco attitudes that led to, among other things, the disastrous Detroit Tigers' "Disco Demolition Night" was tied up in some nasty anti-gay and anti-black shit, you might be . . . what's the phrase? . . . a fucking retard.

― Anti-mist K-Lo (Phil D.), Tuesday, March 22, 2011 11:29 AM (28 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

It was the Chicago White Sox, and to reiterate, I never said that. Learn to read.

xp saying that

No problem Drugs.

No, what you said was that calling someone racist because they don't like disco is stupid. When whether people like disco was not the issue at all. (As opposed to categorically dismissing its musicality and craft, and then ignoring the racial implications of that.)

So I'd be real, real careful about dinging people's reading skills here.

No, you clearly cant read, you stupid fuck.

"As opposed to categorically dismissing its musicality and craft, and then ignoring the racial implications of that"

^I never said or implied this dumbass.

Plus learn the difference between the Tigers and the White Sox, you stupid shit.

Wow. Just wow. You are really, really, really stupid. Like, if I had known in advance I was dealing with a special-needs kid I would've backed off of "fucking retard," but now it's out there and we kinda have to deal with it.

Leave the serious discussions to the adults, chief.

We've covered all this ground before, vis a vis the original poster, this is good way to annoy a mod and have them lock the thread

No, what I mean by the original poster is the The Anti Disco Poster (who shall remain nameless), we've talked about him far too much before

Plus learn the difference between the Tigers and the White Sox, you stupid shit.

― Thraft of Cleveland (Bill Magill), Tuesday, March 22, 2011 11:07 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

don't bother, they are basically just there because we need some teams to place 2nd and 3rd in the central, go twins!

Leave the serious discussions to the adults, chief.

― Thraft of Cleveland (Bill Magill), Tuesday, March 22, 2011 11:09 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yo dogg, unless you are a gym teacher you can't call ppl chief

Stop this now.

xposts.

"As opposed to categorically dismissing its musicality and craft, and then ignoring the racial implications of that"

^I never said or implied this dumbass.

No, Bill, someone else said or implied it, and you reduced it to "not liking disco," assuming that nobody would notice the elision, I guess? And now you're getting your back up because . . .? <------------- INSERT ANSWER HERE FOR THE SLOW KIDS

xp Oooh, "chief." Can "pal," "buddy" and/or "sport" be far behind? STAY TUNED.

I'd like to take this opportunity to lobby for the reinstatement of the metal board

Hey Phil D., you happen to live anywhere near NYC? you wanna meet up for a chat?

would you guys fucking kiss already

ffs

You imply that I'm racist (while using "retarded" as an insult), then you should pay.

I blame John Cale for this

I blame Enoch Powell

I blame the internet.

Plus learn the difference between the Tigers and the White Sox, you stupid shit.

― Thraft of Cleveland (Bill Magill), Tuesday, March 22, 2011 12:07 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark

While "Disco Demolition" took place at Comiskey Park in Chicago, the White Sox were playing (or rather, forfeiting to) the Tigers that night.

Right, he implied they were the home team.

Hey Phil D., you happen to live anywhere near NYC? you wanna meet up for a chat?

― Thraft of Cleveland (Bill Magill), Tuesday, March 22, 2011 12:14 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

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The funny thing is, I live in Cleveland. IT'S LIKE HE KNEW SOMEHOW.

anybody who votes anything other than Option 1 is a disgusting savage imho

clusterfuck awaaaaaaaaay

― Hyper Rescue Troop (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, March 21, 2011 9:51 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

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lol whiney yessssss

L-R: Bill Magill, me

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what time is it?

hey guys bill magill is NOT a racist. He doesn't like disco big deal. He doesn't like the music not because of who made it, he dismisses tons of music (inc metal bands) dont make mountains out of molehills jeez.

again, I don't think anyone actually called him racist

To what degree will you support musicians who (openly, possibly or jokingly) include racist, sexist, homophobic, or bigoted messages in their music, or who privately hold such beliefs?

It's never a good idea to fling words like retarded around but doing it in this thread with that title is just silly.

I'm more passive-aggressive about racial issues on the internet than you are!

whiney at least one poster was implying he was

Bill Magill is quite partial to a 'disco big deal' iirc

No big deal, thanks AG.

Bill this thread makes me miss football a LOT

It's never a good idea to fling words like retarded around but doing it in this thread with that title is just silly.

― Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, March 22, 2011 12:30 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

qft, tbh

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