reloaded is chockablock with all manner of gags
― TOMBOT, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 06:53 (fifteen years ago) link
in fact the abandonment of haw-haws in the third act is probably another one of the main reasons I have no use for it after the trucks
apocalypse haw
― HOOS wearing bitchmade sweaters and steendriving (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 06:58 (fifteen years ago) link
Smith's "humanisation" by the matrix is an entertaining reversal of the usual Terminator / Star Trek-style "what does it mean ... to be HUMAN?" business. Smith's answer: it SUCKS, it makes me BAD AT MY JOB
This is a good point, the more I think about it now the more it seems like it was supposed to be the humans and machines reaching a compromise, what with the program Rama talking about love and the "human" Morpheus talking about machines and people needing each other. I wish there was more of this dialog than mechs-blasting-zillions of squid-bots but what the hey...
To me the whole "Neo is the One, no Neo is not the One, wait Neo IS the One but he can't change anything, wait Neo is controlling the real world with his mind" was the most confusing bit. Hopefully seeing these Animatrix things will clear up some of the timeline for me..
― TOMBOT, Tuesday, December 9, 2008 1:53 AM (12 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest
Come on, you'd miss out on Persephone's perfect tits! I'm glad she's in all the scenes with the silly French dude so I can just tune him out cos otherwise he'd be pretty annoying.
― Adam Bruneau, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 19:18 (fifteen years ago) link
I thought the trucks happened after Persephone's tits...?
― Ca-hoot na na na oh oh (HI DERE), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 19:23 (fifteen years ago) link
he thinks I'm referring to the thread title instead of the third act of Reloaded
― TOMBOT, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 19:23 (fifteen years ago) link
Wow, I am watching the Second Renaissance right now and it is amazing, shocking, and mind-bending. Much much much better than those sequels. I'm tempted to say I like it better than the Matrix but it's too short!
― Adam Bruneau, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 22:42 (fifteen years ago) link
Beyond and Matriculations are even better but The Second Renaissance could've made for a great Matrix prequel perhaps
― Yentl vs Predator (blueski), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 22:51 (fifteen years ago) link
My memory of Revolutions is more or less three solid hours of gurning grunts strapped into comically large exoskeletons shooting ridiculously many rounds of ammunition into endless streams of those squid robot thingys. Punctuated by a brief interlude of cartoon Keanu battling a thousand cartoon Mr Smiths, animated with the style and quality of Hanna Barbera.
― ledge, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 23:00 (fifteen years ago) link
The Second Renaissance is by far the best of Animatrix imo
― HOOS wearing bitchmade sweaters and steendriving (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 23:12 (fifteen years ago) link
omfg those exoskeletons were totally ridiculous. this is what happens when you try to make mecha vaguely realistic - you wind up with a stupid ass artillery platform that's slower and more fragile than one that's on wheels, and as a bonus in Revolutions they also don't carry enough ammunition to last more than two minutes. That shit was ridiculous with the fucking handcart.
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 00:01 (fifteen years ago) link
they should've been at the rave in the mech suits
― Yentl vs Predator (blueski), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 00:15 (fifteen years ago) link
its funny to me that everybody talks about the multi-Smith CGI that I didn't even notice at the time. What really stood out to me was the one long slow zoom on a rendered man-in-mech as the Sentinels began streaming in
― HOOS wearing bitchmade sweaters and steendriving (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 00:32 (fifteen years ago) link
i was like "wtf this looks like a final fantasy vii cutscene why isn't everyone laughing at this"
― HOOS wearing bitchmade sweaters and steendriving (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 00:33 (fifteen years ago) link
Too busy crying
― ledge, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 09:25 (fifteen years ago) link
I tend to contrast this with the Pirates of the Caribbean movies: in both cases I had faith coming out of the second one, and the third made me a fool with its incoherent mess, but At World's End at least had a sandship/Singapore/Keith Richards - lots of details to keep the attention. Also, you got the impression that they at least had a plot at some point before chopping bits out of it. Both of them have big spectacular endings that are inferior to the smaller setpieces in the second one (highway scene/three-way swordfight).
Also, I have watched At World's End twice, and nothing on this planet could make me sit through Revolutions again.
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 14:26 (fifteen years ago) link
At World's End probably has a better script and acting but I didn't enjoy it as much as Revolutions at the time (i may do on rewatch tho - not that i want to see either again tho)
― Yentl vs Predator (blueski), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 14:42 (fifteen years ago) link
At World's End >>>>>>>>>> Revolutions
― Ca-hoot na na na oh oh (HI DERE), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 14:55 (fifteen years ago) link
The 4 years in which The Matrix was worshipped and looked at as the next Star Wars or whatever were unbearable, and I'm eternally grateful to the sequels for being so shitty that even the fanboys jumped ship.
― the cef (united nations children's fund ha ha) (some dude), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 14:57 (fifteen years ago) link
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, December 10, 2008 12:01 AM (14 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
film criticism very much in character
― s1ocki, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 15:00 (fifteen years ago) link
"New Star Wars" sounds fair enough - well put together, amaaazing special effects for its time, vague mystical understructure. We just didn't have to wait 30 years to feel all the blood drain from our bodies.
Oh yeah also annoying fuckers claiming the original was "never that good" :)
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 16:19 (fifteen years ago) link
i liked the original when it came out but i didn't love it
― Q: Why was the mushroom so popular? A: He was a fungi (latebloomer), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 17:41 (fifteen years ago) link
Oh yeah also annoying fuckers claiming the original was "never that good" :)Seriously, no matter how annoying the other two got, the first one still holds up very well.
― Nhex, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 20:05 (fifteen years ago) link
i can see why the sequels might ruin the first film for people, tbh. there are some minor things in the original that are indicative of the coming shitstorm and now seem lamer.
― omar little, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 20:07 (fifteen years ago) link
listen slocki I'm just saying what everybody else is thinking.
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 20:37 (fifteen years ago) link
I think there are a lot of things in the original that make you think they'd never chose the angle they took with the other two that can make you forget the shitstorm in rewatching
― mh, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 21:20 (fifteen years ago) link
A-FUCKING-MEN
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 21:21 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah that was sort of the most hilarious fallout from the sequels. all these people who invested in the promise of this awesome universe got matrixrolled in the worst way
― omar little, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 21:22 (fifteen years ago) link
it's simple. Matrix was "for teenagers" in the same way Star Wars was "for kids".
― Yentl vs Predator (blueski), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 22:22 (fifteen years ago) link
I think you mean "for goths"
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 22:23 (fifteen years ago) link
first movie is fucking retarded btw
like teenagers
― Yentl vs Predator (blueski), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 22:25 (fifteen years ago) link
lolz point taken
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 22:44 (fifteen years ago) link
btw i can't think of the matrix without thinking of this first
― omar little, Wednesday, 10 December 2008 23:25 (fifteen years ago) link
"SEAN PILE"
― Yentl vs Predator (blueski), Wednesday, 10 December 2008 23:27 (fifteen years ago) link
this guy was depressed for MONTHS afterword:
http://www.viceland.com/int/dos_donts/1652/main.jpg
― Q: Why was the mushroom so popular? A: He was a fungi (latebloomer), Thursday, 11 December 2008 00:35 (fifteen years ago) link
Some fans persist. I helped a 20-ish guy at work in the bookstore today who could have walked off the set of one of these movies, trenchcoat and all. No, he did not remove his black lolmatrixglasses indoors.
― Millsner, Thursday, 11 December 2008 00:39 (fifteen years ago) link
i think there are a ton of douchebags who just dress like that, whether they like these movies or not.
― the rev (al sharpton ha ha) (some dude), Thursday, 11 December 2008 00:45 (fifteen years ago) link
they're called goths and they cannot die cuz they're like sexy leather vampire gods dontchaknow
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 11 December 2008 00:46 (fifteen years ago) link
True, but the guy totally blindsided me (ok, I saw it coming) by bringing these movies up in conversation while we looked for some sci-fi books or graphic novels or whatever it was he came in for.
I think that a case could be made that the Matrix films DO have a sense of humour, but I'm not sure that the same could be said of their fans, at least IME.
― Millsner, Thursday, 11 December 2008 00:54 (fifteen years ago) link
― Yentl vs Predator (blueski), Wednesday, December 10, 2008 6:27 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
this is mega lolz should xpost with wanda sykes tribute thread
― M0ntell J0rdan S. (and what), Thursday, 11 December 2008 01:03 (fifteen years ago) link
never seen that chapelle, funny!!
I haven't gone back and re-watched the first to see what other hints it drops, but I know a massive one is when Neo gets interrogated and you see the giant Batcave TV-bank of The Architect!
― Adam Bruneau, Thursday, 11 December 2008 16:06 (fifteen years ago) link
3d sequels apparently happening UH
― idgi fridays (blueski), Monday, 24 January 2011 16:10 (thirteen years ago) link
Meanwhile, the Wachowskis are also working on a futuristic Robin Hood retelling called Hood, which Reeves says is set to star Will Smith
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 24 January 2011 16:46 (thirteen years ago) link
Matrix sequels debunked. http://screenrant.com/matrix-4-5-bill-and-ted-3-keanu-reeves-rob-97796/
― StanM, Monday, 24 January 2011 16:48 (thirteen years ago) link
a futuristic Robin Hood retelling called Hood, which Reeves says is set to star Will Smith
ok this could be awesome
― progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Monday, 24 January 2011 17:21 (thirteen years ago) link
so someone quickly tell me why the Neo who could do anything he wanted with the Matrix at the end of the first film is here in the third film, seemingly inside the Matrix, having a lame fight and getting his ass kicked.
― Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 29 March 2011 23:55 (thirteen years ago) link
also why's everyone exploding. I'd say that this film would benefit from a more focused viewing, but.
― Antoine Bugleboy (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 29 March 2011 23:58 (thirteen years ago) link
Awful, awful, awful film.
― Davek (davek_00), Wednesday, 30 March 2011 00:00 (thirteen years ago) link
i've just seen this for the first time since watching it in the cinema, and i am so. fuckin. confused.
Everything based outside the matrix (zion battle scenes etc )is awesome though, they should just have made a terminator sequel and told keanu to take his gere lite codology fuck off
― talking heads, quiet smith (darraghmac), Saturday, 17 September 2011 00:07 (twelve years ago) link