Star Trek: Classic or Dud?

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my wife goes well beyond "casual fan" - owns all the DVDs of TOS + the cartoons, plus deluxe editions of several of the movies (first movie, Khan, Star Trek VI), has numerous books written by castmembers, etc.

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 10 September 2007 17:01 (sixteen years ago) link

> there was a captain named christopher pike? like the kids' horror author?

was the captain in the pilot episode, pre kirk. footage was later recycled in another episode and, i think, the character came back later.

koogs, Monday, 10 September 2007 17:06 (sixteen years ago) link

that "Menagerie" episode always scared/haunted me, what with those veins you could see pulsating under the surface of the Talosians' heads.

btw, I am not a nerd. I am in nerd rehab.

pj, Monday, 10 September 2007 17:11 (sixteen years ago) link

i think TNG is safely in mainstream/non-nerd territory - wasn't it one of the top 10 rated shows for much of its run? that's way better than, say, buffy ever did. TOS prob isn't even that nerdy anymore, i know lots of regular ppl who have fond memories of the early 80s movies, at least (cf jerry and george getting weepy over "wrath of khan" in that seinfeld episode).

J.D., Monday, 10 September 2007 21:06 (sixteen years ago) link

dud = "real" SF fans' snobbery abt star trek. espec since lots of original series episodes were written by terrific classic writers - theodore sturgeon, james blish, h****n ellison, etc etc.

J.D., Monday, 10 September 2007 21:07 (sixteen years ago) link

I've never met any of these "real" SF fans

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 10 September 2007 21:18 (sixteen years ago) link

also are you worried about Harlan googling himself and showing up here to harangue you or what?

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 10 September 2007 21:18 (sixteen years ago) link

jsut caught 'inner light' episode of TNG. best episode ever?

It's between that and "Yesterday's Enterprise" - both are miles better than "Best of Both Worlds"

Duane Barry, Monday, 10 September 2007 23:37 (sixteen years ago) link

there was a captain named christopher pike? like the kids' horror author?

i think that the author christopher pike named himself after ST's captain christopher pike.

Eisbaer, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 01:15 (sixteen years ago) link

The Menagerie is like an animated tumor at the back of my brain, informing every move I make as an adult. Well, almost.
I was so in love with Kirk as a 13-yr-old. I never watched the lated incarnations of the show.

Beth Parker, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 01:54 (sixteen years ago) link

larer, No, later.
I r drunk

Beth Parker, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 02:00 (sixteen years ago) link

pike's going to be a major character in the upcoming movie, yeah?

Alan, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 10:04 (sixteen years ago) link

Easy job for the scriptwriter then.

Pike: BLEEP. BLEEP BLEEP. BLEEP BLEEP BLEEP BLEEP BLEEEEEEP.

Noodle Vague, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 10:08 (sixteen years ago) link

somewhat incredibly there was a slash fiction question on University Challenge last night, specifically the *very easiest* question about it imaginable.

Grandpont Genie, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 10:10 (sixteen years ago) link

no, this will be pike pre-accident. pre the events of the menagerie even.

Alan, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 10:16 (sixteen years ago) link

NO SHIT

Noodle Vague, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 10:17 (sixteen years ago) link

isn't the film abt Kirk in his Starfleet Academy days?

i think i read that somewhere.

Grandpont Genie, Tuesday, 11 September 2007 10:18 (sixteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

7307 Takei, people!

James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 4 October 2007 03:01 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

ethan is the best on the star trek threads. :D

esp abt TNG

Abbott, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 20:43 (sixteen years ago) link

SIMONTRIFE: its funny to imagine teh rest of culture continued on without them but on the enterprise they just wanted everything to be old and european bcz they were white supremicists
SIMONTRIFE: like, everybody else in the galaxy is listening to get low 2450
SIMONTRIFE: theyre like a bunch of renaissance faire nerds
SIMONTRIFE: its a show abt a bunch of nerds who fly around in a spaceship
SIMONTRIFE: a bunch of rich white yuppie nerds

i still think this is a good theory

and what, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 20:54 (sixteen years ago) link

"rainbow that grants all your wishes" "frere jacques elevator" still make me laff alla time

I was laughing about them today and that's why I revived this.

Abbott, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 20:56 (sixteen years ago) link

Ronan909: they were all into such shit stuff aswell
Ronan909: on the holodeck
Ronan909: "i've recreated a 1924 jazz club with no one in it"
Ronan909: "i feel this is the best use of being able to simulate any event ever"

and what, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 21:00 (sixteen years ago) link

SO FUCKING CLASSIC! hahahahahaha

Abbott, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 21:05 (sixteen years ago) link

Still gold.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 21:11 (sixteen years ago) link

I can never see TNG now without thinking of that convo.

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 21:12 (sixteen years ago) link

And porno Interactive Fiction, obv.

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 21:13 (sixteen years ago) link

Ronan909: REG BARCLAY
SIMONTRIFE: honestly, is he like ten??
Ronan909: AKA *******

pretty sure this said "NED RAGGETT"

and what, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 21:15 (sixteen years ago) link

this thread is why ethan should never ever be banned, lol

latebloomer, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 21:27 (sixteen years ago) link

pretty sure this said "NED RAGGETT"

Beautiful.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 21:28 (sixteen years ago) link

false alarm, it was 'graham'

and what, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 21:37 (sixteen years ago) link

None of you are real geeks. Listen: I.. played.. Star Fleet Battles.

This means that I not only believe in an alternate timeline for the original series, but that I also played a tactical simulator based on that timeline using counters and hexagons...

Been there. Done that. I can also trump it because I had a copy of Federation Space, which was the short-lived strategic macro-level version of Star Fleet Battles. Imagine the Dr. Strangelove war room or the Imperial War Museum map room only with Federation vs. Romulan vs. Tholian vs. etc.

Sold it for quite a bit of $$$ on eBay.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 8 November 2007 01:50 (sixteen years ago) link

Okay, so you played sStar Fleet Battles, but did you play the rules set that took it into 3-D. If not, I win.

Actually, I lose for admitting to that. Forever.

Stone Monkey, Thursday, 8 November 2007 07:29 (sixteen years ago) link

Yes I did. I also played this game... A lot!

At least it provided some answers as to what would happen if a bunch of X-Wing fighters and the Millennium Falcon went up against the Enterprise (the X-Wings usually won)

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 8 November 2007 07:59 (sixteen years ago) link

Chris, when we're of retirement age, I still have my copy of Federation Space!

Spencer Chow, Thursday, 8 November 2007 08:11 (sixteen years ago) link

I also long for the day when I have enough time to play a full game of Days of Decision+World in Flames!!!

Spencer Chow, Thursday, 8 November 2007 08:12 (sixteen years ago) link

SIMONTRIFE: they borrowed their shoulder pads from vivian banks

adam, Thursday, 8 November 2007 16:15 (sixteen years ago) link

Ronan909: the irish guy is so funny too
Ronan909: colm meaney
Ronan909: chief o brien
Ronan909: one of my friends gets called chief cos he looks like him
Ronan909: have you ever seen "the snapper"
Ronan909: he plays an Irish dad in it
Ronan909: whose daughter gets pregnant at 16
Ronan909: its so fucking funny
Ronan909: he has slippers and dodgy cardigans etc
Ronan909: his wife goes but what about the neighbours
Ronan909: and he flings a cup of tea and goes
Ronan909: "AH FUCK THE NEIGHBOURS"

and what, Thursday, 8 November 2007 16:47 (sixteen years ago) link

four months pass...

virgin 1 is showing TNG but despite it being a bank holiday i don't think i can take encounter at farpoint again

DG, Monday, 24 March 2008 20:59 (sixteen years ago) link

i scored both parts of this at a thrift store for a buck apiece on VHS, but they've really, really worn out their welcome.

ian, Monday, 24 March 2008 21:00 (sixteen years ago) link

Season 3 of TNG is when the show really starts getting good anyway.

Sparkle Motion, Monday, 24 March 2008 22:29 (sixteen years ago) link

I was thinking this was the thread where I made the joke about Troi lezzing up with Worf's forehead, but I guess not.

HI DERE, Monday, 24 March 2008 22:34 (sixteen years ago) link

I like to watch TNG with my pissed mates when BBC2 show it on a Friday night at about half two in the morning. Essential post-spoonies viewing.

Bodrick III, Monday, 24 March 2008 22:34 (sixteen years ago) link

the bravo listings promise that at midnight

Picard is in love but won't admit it, so Q transforms him into Robin Hood and an old flame into Maid Marian, and sends them both to Sherwood Forest.

DG, Monday, 24 March 2008 23:08 (sixteen years ago) link

fuck this show

DG, Monday, 24 March 2008 23:08 (sixteen years ago) link

That's a good episode!

Bodrick III, Monday, 24 March 2008 23:11 (sixteen years ago) link

mind you the opposition is

The Cult of Hamish Macbeth

Hamish Macbeth was a different kind of policeman, a laid-back local bobby policing a small Scottish village, but the viewing figures regularly topped 10 million.

DG, Monday, 24 March 2008 23:11 (sixteen years ago) link

no it is not a good episode

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 24 March 2008 23:11 (sixteen years ago) link

All the Q episodes are great, obvs.

Bodrick III, Monday, 24 March 2008 23:11 (sixteen years ago) link

I've really enjoyed all the Q eps I've caught. The one where he became human was good.

chap, Monday, 24 March 2008 23:12 (sixteen years ago) link

You could tack "fuck this show" at the end of practically any Star Trek epsidoe summary and it would be wholly appropriate, regardless of how good the episode is.

HI DERE, Monday, 24 March 2008 23:12 (sixteen years ago) link


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