you didn't need to go into that
― kid 606: the nultness (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 18:51 (thirteen years ago) link
xpost to self:
like if it was a series of generic statements about being in a club: fine, yeah, modern pop.
but this 'now i'm doing this, now i'm doing that, making a statement of fact' super banal stuff is actually more reminiscent of the first robin sparkles song on HIMYM than actual charting pop music.
― c sharp major, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 18:52 (thirteen years ago) link
no, someone just got yelled at about an hour ago for calling someone retarded.
― sarahel, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 18:52 (thirteen years ago) link
not reading 'that thread' (assuming....)
― kid 606: the nultness (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 18:53 (thirteen years ago) link
xp again i'm not gonna do this because what's the point, but without getting into actual value judgments i'd just say that like 65% of the joke with "friday" comes from how stilted and robotic she sounds, like she's just barely clinging to this weird edifice that's been built for her, whereas ke$ha does not sound like that, because she's throwing herself into her relentlessly ugly frat hedonist retard anthems and giggling and preening and doing weird voices and affecting deliberately obnoxious vowel sounds and this is like literally the opposite of what is going on with "friday". that's all.
― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 18:53 (thirteen years ago) link
'now i'm doing this, now i'm doing that, making a statement of fact'
read this in rebecca black's voice — actual lols
― SBlendor in the grass (bernard snowy), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 18:53 (thirteen years ago) link
ke$ha is also an adult whose junk boys want to touch.
― sarahel, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 18:54 (thirteen years ago) link
i'm guessing some of the <3 apologists itt have for this track is because, as tweens or former tweens, they empathize with the simple joy of the school week finishing
― kid 606: the nultness (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 18:54 (thirteen years ago) link
don't forget according to iatee's recent poll, many ilx users are actually 13
― kid 606: the nultness (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 18:55 (thirteen years ago) link
xxpokay I'm at the club, yeah goin' to the clubgotta get boys, have 'em touch me on my junkordering drinks, gosh look at all these drinkshave to pick a drink, and then I'll get drunk
― SBlendor in the grass (bernard snowy), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 18:56 (thirteen years ago) link
(also everything c sharp major is saying about the lyrics to this not actually being anything like any actual pop at all is otm, that is why it is so funny)
― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 18:57 (thirteen years ago) link
except the "fun fun fun" part - pretty sure that's been in a pop song before
― sarahel, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 18:57 (thirteen years ago) link
but this 'now i'm doing this, now i'm doing that, making a statement of fact' super banal stuff
'Cause you're hot then you're coldYou're yes then you're noYou're in then you're outYou're up then you're downYou're wrong when it's rightIt's black and it's whiteWe fight, we break upWe kiss, we make up
― Ian Curtis danced like a tortured chicken DO U SEE (Phil D.), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 18:58 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, but that is about "~feelings~" not eating a bowl of cereal
― sarahel, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 18:58 (thirteen years ago) link
that is a structured description of contrasting abstract states that happen over the course of a relationship
vs an unstructured list of physical things happening in the order that they are happening
like again that is the opposite of "friday"
― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 18:59 (thirteen years ago) link
had a 30 second search but couldn't find anything for
thread for random crit theory bloggers discussing pop music
would appresh if any relevant material is posted there
― kid 606: the nultness (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 19:00 (thirteen years ago) link
itt a lot of special pleading
― Ian Curtis danced like a tortured chicken DO U SEE (Phil D.), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 19:01 (thirteen years ago) link
This list is a lot different from that list because of because
she's totally ditching in that video, right?
― slugbuggy, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 19:01 (thirteen years ago) link
i guess there are some similarities between this song and Beastie Boys' "Fight for Your Right to Party"
― sarahel, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 19:02 (thirteen years ago) link
i think ppl calling this a 'typical' pop lyrics are probably using "Party in the USA" as a reference point, and it's true, this is kind of like an artless version of
Jumped in the cab, here I am for the first timeLook to my right, and I see the Hollywood sign[...]I'm noddin' my head like yeahMovin' my hips like yeah
― SBlendor in the grass (bernard snowy), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 19:04 (thirteen years ago) link
xpost also "a hard rain's a-gonna fall"
― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 19:05 (thirteen years ago) link
ibut this 'now i'm doing this, now i'm doing that, making a statement of fact' super banal stuff
trapped in the closet, minus sex, conflict and midgets.
― m the g, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 19:05 (thirteen years ago) link
r kelly does the "now I'm doing this" thing all day
― five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 19:06 (thirteen years ago) link
I mean I'm not trying to equate Rebecca Black and Ke$ha or whomever as performers and difficult listening hour is correct in re: their dedication to their performances, but when it comes to the, eh, I don't know, songwriting values? we're into some narcissism of small differences territory here, big time.
― Ian Curtis danced like a tortured chicken DO U SEE (Phil D.), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 19:06 (thirteen years ago) link
in 5 yrs we will look back on this girl as the 'star wars kid' of the 2010s
― SBlendor in the grass (bernard snowy), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 19:06 (thirteen years ago) link
narcissism of small differences = equating a 13 year old girl with an adult woman? Pretty sure Chris Hansen would have something to say about that.
― sarahel, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 19:07 (thirteen years ago) link
That's not what I'm doing. At all. I'm talking about the songs qua songs, not the performers behind them.
― Ian Curtis danced like a tortured chicken DO U SEE (Phil D.), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 19:08 (thirteen years ago) link
I get up when I want, except on Wednesday's, when I get rudely awakened by the dustman. I have a cup of tea, out my trousers on, and think about leaving the house. Fun fun fun fun.
― lol sickmouthy (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 19:09 (thirteen years ago) link
when it comes to the, eh, I don't know, songwriting values? we're into some narcissism of small differences territory here, big time.
get this even if i don't agree, doubt either of us would benefit from arguing it.
― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 19:10 (thirteen years ago) link
in this case, how easy is it to separate the song from the performer though?
― sarahel, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 19:10 (thirteen years ago) link
and the subject matter of the songs are different -- ke$ha's are adult in nature.
― sarahel, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 19:11 (thirteen years ago) link
xp what are you, william butler yeats?
― SBlendor in the grass (bernard snowy), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 19:12 (thirteen years ago) link
like dumb songs about getting wasted and getting laid have a qualitative difference than a dumb song about a pre-teen eating cereal and waiting for the bus.
― sarahel, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 19:13 (thirteen years ago) link
get up, get out of beddrag a comb across my headmade my way downstairs and drank a cuplooking up, i noticed i was lategrabbed my coat, grabbed my hatgotta get down to the bus stopgotta catch the bus'cuz its FRI-EEE-DAY, FRI-EEE-DAY
― congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 19:14 (thirteen years ago) link
also has anyone considered the possibility that if this girl 'sounds like' ke$ha it's because maybe she LIKES ke$ha and was trying to emulate her? "gotta have my bowl, gotta have cereal" is kinda like a crude 13-year-old approximation of "wake up in the morning feelin' like p.diddy", right?
― SBlendor in the grass (bernard snowy), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 19:14 (thirteen years ago) link
I feel kinda bad for her tbh, imagine if that fake pop song you recorded in your bedroom when you were 12 was all of a sudden being parodied by 5 million ppl and perpetua was calling you non-charismatic
But it's not like this is the Numa Numa guy in his bedroom, RB has to some degree signed up to "being a pop star" with whatever promotion Ark can offer. It's a bit sad that she finds out how the world/Internet works in such a public way but she or her parents should have known better.
― oigwheoiqng4g (seandalai), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 19:14 (thirteen years ago) link
but this 'now i'm doing this, now i'm doing that, making a statement of fact' super banal stuff is actually more reminiscent of the first robin sparkles song on HIMYM than actual charting pop music.― c sharp major, Tuesday, March 15, 2011 6:52 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark
― c sharp major, Tuesday, March 15, 2011 6:52 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark
haha yes, 'let's go to the mall' has inexplicably been in my head as a result of r.b., though idk, they're not quite the same
― history mayne, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 19:16 (thirteen years ago) link
i guess because partying *is* exciting but going to the ma-a-all isn't.
― history mayne, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 19:17 (thirteen years ago) link
I'm gonna do this version of the song as some serial killer type might do it and I'll be like super-viral, it'll be so funny
then I will live another 40 years or so with the shame of my act, and then die
― five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 19:20 (thirteen years ago) link
an incognito rebecca black will place roses on your grave once a year
― I am sorry for my insensitive tweet (Edward III), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 19:23 (thirteen years ago) link
man it's gonna be even more awesome to be dead than I thought
― five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 19:24 (thirteen years ago) link
she'll only visit your grave when the night winds wail, though.
― sarahel, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 19:25 (thirteen years ago) link
all the lonely people where do they all come fromfun fun fun fun
― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 19:25 (thirteen years ago) link
gotta have my bowl gotta visit my serial
killer
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 19:26 (thirteen years ago) link
wait what the hell that doesnt even make sense
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 19:27 (thirteen years ago) link
thread is moving so quickly that you could declare 'friday' to be the vacuous pop analog of 'life: a user's manual' and nobody would notice. hitler. poo.
― kid 606: the nultness (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 19:27 (thirteen years ago) link
friday's probably the best english translation of a perec work yeah
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 19:28 (thirteen years ago) link
clearly her agonizing over whether to get in the front or back seat is symbolic of the anxiety teen girls feel regarding their impending womenhood. does she ride in the chaste front seat, or become a creature of sexual agency by choosing the back seat?
― I am sorry for my insensitive tweet (Edward III), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 19:32 (thirteen years ago) link
there are levels of complexity here you sneering ghouls have not even begun to scratch
― I am sorry for my insensitive tweet (Edward III), Tuesday, 15 March 2011 19:33 (thirteen years ago) link