Gilbert Gottfried: Funniest man alive

guys, i'm not trying to make some value judgement on whether zing crew or cuddle crew is BETTER, I'm just saying those posts are a good visualization of two rising board trends

and everyone else is saying "whogivesashit.jpg"

sorry to take this convo away from the important, earth-shattering development that man with a CD called DIRTY JOKES may have said something offensive to people

argh, i'm trying not be be zingy, guys.

PrincessTamTam can fuck off and die now, thanks. Piece of worthless shit. Good job trollin'. Hope your family gets wiped out by a tsunami.

― 'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, March 15, 2011 9:56 AM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

So sick of this ironic distance or whatever the fuck it is that tolerates people joking about tens of thousands of people dying. No excuse.

― 'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, March 15, 2011 9:59 AM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark

Yeah okay captain sanctimony. First of all, I'm not trolling. I'm just saying that these are good jokes and I don't think they need to be defended on any other grounds aside from being funny. Guess that means my mom and dad should drown to death. I do think your whole outrage act is pretty phony and that you just want to feel aggrieved about something.

You're a douchebag plain and simple. The jokes aren't funny in ANY context, let alone one where a natural disaster IS STILL GOING ON. I'm sure its hard to understand with your "irony" or whatever fucking pathetic defense you want to throw up, but I ACTUALLY AM OUTRAGED. Not phony.

I wonder what Aflac's going to do now; find a soundalike or just use old recordings? I mean that duck is the only thing they have going for them right now. Ultimately I think they made the right call although I question how many people think that Gilbert "represents" Aflac the same way that say, Tiger Woods represented Nike.

I didn't really think the jokes were funny either, but this is what he does. I did find the 9/11 jokes to be hilarious, not because they were funny, but the reaction of the horrified audience was priceless. A lot of comedians claim to be or want to be known as being offensive and edgy but it's not like you can rattle people by saying the word "fuck" anymore.

I am pretty sure that guy has realized he's not universally loved by now. the jokes were stupid and distasteful but on a certain level I think it's better to just ignore people who do this rather than make it a national news story instead of making it into a game about how offended / morally superior we are.

Are we talking about Gilbert or Whiney right now?

i hate to be all deej about it, but what the fuck did i do?

It was a joke.

:)

this thread needs to be installed with a real-time SB counter

sorry to take this convo away from the important, earth-shattering development that man with a CD called DIRTY JOKES may have said something offensive to people

The Aristocrats thing is really proof that dirty != offensive; the point was that people will laugh at the dirtiest and most grotesque jokes under the guise of "wow, this is really edgy and offensive, but we're hip and have a sense of humor so we love it", while hating the guy for having the balls to say something that was ACTUALLY offensive; I think it more pointed out the hypocrisy of the audience (in some way), although I couldn't say they had the "wrong" reaction to any of it

You're a douchebag plain and simple. The jokes aren't funny in ANY context, let alone one where a natural disaster IS STILL GOING ON. I'm sure its hard to understand with your "irony" or whatever fucking pathetic defense you want to throw up, but I ACTUALLY AM OUTRAGED. Not phony.

making a joke abt things has always been as natural & human a recation to tragedy on this scale as any really - its just another way of managing the monstrousness of the situation for ppl & its kinda gross if u cant understand/deal w/ that.

its kinda gross if u cant understand/deal w/ that

Really? This is going to be turned on me for not being okay with laughing at this? Fuck off pls.

I am pretty sure that guy has realized he's not universally loved by now. the jokes were stupid and distasteful but on a certain level I think it's better to just ignore people who do this rather than make it a national news story instead of making it into a game about how offended / morally superior we are.

on the one hand, I agree with you that if everybody just quietly went "ignoring that, kinda not amused" it'd be best but on the other hand I kinda hate that to be offended by anything ever auto-codes as "moral superiority." It's actually possible to be a shitty human being like everybody else and still say to others "try harder plz"

"you're offended by grotesque insensitivity? well la-di-da, mr. high and mighty who doesn't stink when he farts!"

There was a thread about this in the wake of the Gabrielle Giffords story--basically, should life come to a halt in the wake of tragedy? To stay consistent, I believe that life should go on as normally as possible, and life encompasses distasteful jokes. But the key to me is jon's "where a natural disaster is still going on." If Gilbert Gottfried felt it absolutely necessary to make these jokes, he could have waited a bit. Maybe that would be the lame, hedging-your-bets thing to do, and not waiting is what makes him an "edgy" comic, but it'd also be a show of basic civility.

Only in the context of this place would anyone ever refer to me as cuddly.

I did find the 9/11 jokes to be hilarious, not because they were funny, but the reaction of the horrified audience was priceless. A lot of comedians claim to be or want to be known as being offensive and edgy but it's not like you can rattle people by saying the word "fuck" anymore.

― frogbs, Tuesday, March 15, 2011 10:25 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

Yeah, I've been wondering why he was (rightfully) lauded for those 9/11 jokes and eviscerated for this. Maybe it's because in this case he flaunted the 7 day rule, whereas I think the roast where he did his 9/11 routine was a couple weeks after the attack. Or maybe it's like you say - telling the jokes to a horrified audience lets you appreciate it in a different way than just reading the jokes off twitter.

apptly 80% of aflac's business is in japan

oh shit, really?

trufax i had no idea the aflac goose was GG until this little shitshow

xp yup heard it on npr, so it might be socialist lies, i dunno

No, it's definitely true. Him getting fired was a no-brainer.

http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2011/03/14/aflac-hunts-for-new-duck/?src=dlbksb

aero, i think the point of that post is that the "fake internet news cycle of outrage" really outweighs the actual damage these jokes could have done. Like it's good blog traffic to be "OH MAN DID YTOU SEE WHAT BIEBER SAID ABOUT BORTIONS" so places like HuffPo and Gawker act TOTALLY OUTRAGED at things that would have gotten an "oh, thats lame" 20 years ago

Jon it's fine if you're not okay with laughing at it but telling other people they deserve to die for thinking it's funny is taking it a bit too far. I don't think finding this stuff funny or not funny means anything in terms of your morals or what kind of a human being you are. Even Gandhi loved a good nigger joke.

I didn't know it was him either but it seems so obv now.

making a joke abt things has always been as natural & human a recation to tragedy on this scale as any really - its just another way of managing the monstrousness of the situation for ppl & its kinda gross if u cant understand/deal w/ that.

― «( «_«)» zzzz «(«_« )» (Lamp), Tuesday, March 15, 2011 10:33 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

otm - I was actually gonna say something like this, I know it's kind of a glib response to be like 'oh yeah well maybe this is how i deal with tragedy' - but it is how I deal with it!

I agree on the individual level but when this becomes a big story that people talk about I think there is some level of 'let's talk about a person with no social grace to highlight how much we have'.

Really? This is going to be turned on me for not being okay with laughing at this? Fuck off pls.

enh i just think its lol that youre cool wishing death on another person's parents bcuz of msg board post is cool but that making intentionally 'bad taste' jokes on twitter is some new level in superhuman callousness

woah hold the phone is that true about gandhi

Xp to aero

aero, i think the point of that post is that the "fake internet news cycle of outrage" really outweighs the actual damage these jokes could have done. Like it's good blog traffic to be "OH MAN DID YTOU SEE WHAT BIEBER SAID ABOUT BORTIONS" so places like HuffPo and Gawker act TOTALLY OUTRAGED at things that would have gotten an "oh, thats lame" 20 years ago

this is otm! but it's like - the flow of information and response is different now. it may have been saner, healthier back when, but in an age when we're getting news all day long (instead of hearing about it when we look at the TV) it'd be smarter/cooler to note that and weigh one's comedic responses accordingly

a) Lamp otm about humor as a reaction to tragedy

b) Jon it's fine if you're not okay with laughing at it but telling other people they deserve to die for thinking it's funny is taking it a bit too far. I don't think finding this stuff funny or not funny means anything in terms of your morals or what kind of a human being you are.

Agreed.

c) Jon - you often come across as really angry and quick to resort to name calling and stuff and that's never going to go over well, you know? In fact it probably works against you because ppl tend to concentrate on that rather than on whatever point you're trying to make.

d) woah hold the phone is that true about gandhi

― goole, Tuesday, March 15, 2011 10:41 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

LOL

I thought everyone knew the duck was GG

TBH everybody often seems to know stuff I don't know.

Okay, you guys are right I was 100% serious about wishing death on a troll's parents. Yep. Funny how the "lol jokes bro" applies to everyone else but me.

it's kind of difficult to claim "lol jokes bro" and "I AM FUCKING SERIOUS" at the same time

believe me, I've tried

but i thought you were REALLY OUTRAGED

Now you're just trying to play it off. Everyone saw what you said, and it clearly wasn't intended to be humorous. And if it actually was, how can you make a joke like that while chewing me out - not for making classless jokes, but for simply enjoying someone else's - with zero self-examination?

guys lets just hope this thread drops off SNA as quickly as possible, thnx

Fine guys, I'm the bad guy. You all win. Have fun with your nigger and dead baby jokes, assholes.

i think its just sad cuz until now i had no reason to be offended watching my aladdin & the king of thieves dvd

forget it, jon. it's chinatown.

to mitigate the dogpile because, given the subject matter I think it's totally understandable and unsurprising that emotions might boil over here, I think that if Gottfried's jokes had been less (for lack of a better word) lazy, I wouldn't have found them repellent

his ass still would have gotten fired tho

xp: I always find it interesting how ppl use arguments like this to take the opportunity to type the word "nigger" like they just got a hall pass or something

im more of a return of jafar guy

jon blanchard

Obviously I shouldn't have said what I did about wishing death on TamTam's family, but I was outraged that he would be defending those tasteless jokes. But, yeah, it wasn't cool of me to do so. I just don't get the idea that we all need to protect people's right to be tasteless assholes, but pile on anyone that might not like that. I mean, I know we live in an era of "lol this is the internet we say what we want get a helmet" etc etc, but goddamn I think its okay to be offended by stuff now and then.

in re: DJP's xpost I was gonna say what is it w/ppl super stoked that they "get" to drop the n-bomb when shit gets heated?