Ryuichi Sakamoto S/D

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It's kind of funny, Hosono had the same type of 'pop' phase but his was more exotica/tropical stuff. His albums with Happy End are really good. I understand if you didn't like Philharmony but can you at least admit that "Sports Man" and "LDK" are first-rate? ;)

A good reference is this:
http://technopop.info/

BTW I would be all for some kind of Japanese New Wave listening club similar to the Krautrock one. I mean that page above lists hundreds of albums and nearly half of them seem to have some link to YMO

frogbs, Monday, 14 March 2011 16:23 (thirteen years ago) link

corey - I was pretty surprised as well to find that the U.S. release cuts off half of the tracks, and also to realize that "Field Work" and "Steppin' Into Asia" didn't really fit with it at all. Sadly few outside of Japan seem to know about it. It sucks because "Replica" is my favorite RS track (at least, according to iTunes)

frogbs, Monday, 14 March 2011 16:26 (thirteen years ago) link

iTunes says my most-played RS track is "Dolphins"

corey, Monday, 14 March 2011 16:42 (thirteen years ago) link

BTW, just discovered that if you have access to the Japanese iTunes store, there are oodles of Playing the Piano Live concerts available from the past three years, including the ones he did on his swing through North America this past year. Just downloaded the Toronto show. They're only 1500 yen too, which makes them cheaper than most of the albums on the Japanese store!

Sean Carruthers, Monday, 14 March 2011 17:52 (thirteen years ago) link

I hate to be negative, but I really dislike the piano versions of his older songs — it makes me think of when someone orchestrates the music from the Final Fantasy games. Chintzy and artificial the originals sounds might be, they're a huge part of why I enjoy this music so much, and piano versions just turn them into elevator music imo.

corey, Monday, 14 March 2011 17:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Can see that, sure, but I actually like 'em a lot myself. Have really been enjoying a lot of other piano-based work like Olafur Arnalds and Max Richter etc, and so sometimes these versions really connect with me in a way that some of the 80s and 90s version don't. For example, the original "Amore" was a sophistopop high-gloss thing, but the piano version is quite moody. Not sure how much of this is just my love for the sound of the piano and how much of it is the rearrangement of the songs, though.

Sean Carruthers, Monday, 14 March 2011 18:03 (thirteen years ago) link

"Amore", yep, that's the track, thank you

frogbs, Monday, 14 March 2011 18:05 (thirteen years ago) link

Found this while perusing the information superhighway.

http://mutant-sounds.blogspot.com/2008/01/vatokyo-mobile-musiclp1982uk.html

MaresNest, Monday, 14 March 2011 22:37 (thirteen years ago) link

been distantly aware of this dude for a really long time and finally picked something up last week and i'm pretty into it! that Left Handed Dream one frogbs mentioned. excellent investment! ($0.49 x 25% employee discount iirc)

arby's, Monday, 14 March 2011 22:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Playing the Piano is lovely

gravity tractor VS asteroid B612 (m coleman), Monday, 14 March 2011 23:56 (thirteen years ago) link

Just had a listen to Beauty again; yep, "Amore" is definitely a beautiful tune, but this album is really wonky as a whole - "Rose Music" just irritates me.

If you want to hear the difference between Sakamoto and Hosono, listen to both versions of the Okinawan folk song "Asatoya Yunta" (on the albums Beauty and Paraiso). Sakamoto's is very crisp, precise, and beautiful, while Hosono's is surreal and exotic, to the point where it sounds like the vocals were recorded backwards. I love both versions but Hosono's is really something special.

frogbs, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 14:04 (thirteen years ago) link

OoooOOOooooh this has "War Head" on it!! Really wish he wrote more songs like that!!!

frogbs, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 17:43 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah — it's like the loopiest songs from Multiplies with awesome synth sounds

corey, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 18:05 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...

http://nonukes2012.jp/en/

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 05:33 (eleven years ago) link

That is a lineup worthy of international attention

Also think it's going to be the first time sakamoto and otomo yoshihide have collaborated

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/text/fm20120705a1.html#.T_u_dRB5lP4

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 05:41 (eleven years ago) link

I mean, was

And I guess I mean: I'm surprised to have only found out about a kraftwerk / ymo concert the week after it happens

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 06:01 (eleven years ago) link

ummm, can we please get a DVD of this guys?

frogbs, Monday, 16 July 2012 21:11 (eleven years ago) link

three months pass...

I hate to be negative, but I really dislike the piano versions of his older songs — it makes me think of when someone orchestrates the music from the Final Fantasy games. Chintzy and artificial the originals sounds might be, they're a huge part of why I enjoy this music so much, and piano versions just turn them into elevator music imo.

I dunno if you were referring to 1996 but I'm listening to it now and it's absolutely gorgeous. I think the artificiality kind of takes me out of it a bit - not on stuff like Ongaku Zukan or Neo Geo, but maybe on the albums past that. I had no idea "Bibo no Aozora" had such a haunting melody because it's covered up with dusty trip-hop drums and bad vocals.

frogbs, Tuesday, 13 November 2012 20:30 (eleven years ago) link

find if you can /04 and /05, two great sakamoto-covers-himself-mostly-on-piano records

Brakhage, Wednesday, 14 November 2012 18:38 (eleven years ago) link

five months pass...

'all star video: ryuichi sakamoto by nam june paik'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59MCqEjRFnI

Milton Parker, Monday, 29 April 2013 19:07 (ten years ago) link

oh my god

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 01:56 (ten years ago) link

a few years back I saw a film that I think was soundtracked by Sakamoto, very soft and minimal synth and piano music, with the visuals being mostly black with white rectangles fading in and out based on the piano notes. I think. Ring a bell for anyone?

the kind of man who best draws girls' eyeballs (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 02:33 (ten years ago) link

one year passes...

wings of honneamise OST is really good man. esp "F A D E":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8nunklJx7o

original bgm, Friday, 9 May 2014 04:36 (nine years ago) link

two months pass...

:-/

original bgm, Thursday, 10 July 2014 15:22 (nine years ago) link

oof, how awful. all the best to him :(

Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Friday, 18 July 2014 18:32 (nine years ago) link

two months pass...

Anyone who's a fan, if music that sounds like a combination of Naughty Boys and Ongaku Zukan appeals to you, search out the Works I - CM disc. It's basically a comp of all the commercial music Sakamoto composed between 1982 and 1984, a lot sounding like YMO outtakes, though most are instrumental. Akiko Yano is on a few fits. Nothing too adventurous but it's essentially Sakamoto's own version of Coincidental Music.

Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Tuesday, 23 September 2014 20:21 (nine years ago) link

CM/TV is also excellent

Deverly (Bangelo), Tuesday, 23 September 2014 21:28 (nine years ago) link

yeah, those comps are great. "perky jean" is a favorite:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55pAtVe-7VE

original bgm, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 02:30 (nine years ago) link

this gets stuck in my head a lot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiz1dEJ3l7M

clouds, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 02:39 (nine years ago) link

YOU! YOU!

clouds, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 02:39 (nine years ago) link

hahaha awesome

original bgm, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 02:49 (nine years ago) link

CM/TV is also excellent

yup I'm listening to it now; it's mostly the same tunes though isn't it?

Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Wednesday, 24 September 2014 12:29 (nine years ago) link

whoa, there's a Penguin Cafe Orchestra cover on here (???)

Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Wednesday, 24 September 2014 13:08 (nine years ago) link

three months pass...

Turns 63 today!!

Abstinence Hawk (frogbs), Saturday, 17 January 2015 07:10 (nine years ago) link

he's a god.

soyrev, Saturday, 17 January 2015 08:33 (nine years ago) link

two months pass...

I recently got Beauty based on the Allmusic review and "album pick" status. I'm now halfway through and holy crap, this is maybe one of the worst albums I've purchased in years.

ed.b, Friday, 3 April 2015 03:42 (nine years ago) link

Every time I see this thread bumped I fear I'm going to read that he's died.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 3 April 2015 04:32 (nine years ago) link

xp "beauty" hasn't aged well it's true

i had the same thought, wish him well.

clouds, Friday, 3 April 2015 05:29 (nine years ago) link

Oh God, me too, hope he's doing well.

According to the YMO Media Fan's FB page there's another mad exhibition of YMO's gear and artwork in Japan somewhere, lot's of geeky photo's of their equipment popping up.

MaresNest, Friday, 3 April 2015 09:25 (nine years ago) link

I myself don't have the slightest problem with Beauty or any other music "aging" objectively (if that were possible). I have aged; I've found my tastes have expanded, taking in and not excluding anything I have seriously enjoyed before. I'm still enjoying Beauty as I did back in the day, and still find it one of his best realised albums.

on the cancer front, the latest news is he's beaten it.

there's a slew of MIDI/Alfa reissues of the early stuff (up to and including Esperanto) that's been released recently, nice 2-cd edition of Ongaku Zukan and other stuff. details here: http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/MDCL-5034

Max Florian, Friday, 3 April 2015 10:17 (nine years ago) link

Oh wow, that's AWESOME!

MaresNest, Friday, 3 April 2015 10:21 (nine years ago) link

really? i would be so happy! my internet is garbage right now so i actually can't check, but last i looked (~a month ago) his website still had the cancer notice posted...

soyrev, Friday, 3 April 2015 10:58 (nine years ago) link

Didn't realize he was sick :( Hope he legitimately has beaten it though.

I've been passovely looking out for copies of Esperanto ever since I saw the thread on it here. Apropos S/D, what else is good in that vein (i.e. more,mfor lack of a better word, "weird")?

ed.b, Friday, 3 April 2015 11:44 (nine years ago) link

Every time I see this thread bumped I fear I'm going to read that he's died.

no kidding, really glad to see he's doing better

Beauty is still decent to my ears, I still think "Amore" is one of the best songs he's ever done. If you don't like it definitely don't get any of the albums that followed it until 1996, cuz I do think he tailed off quite a bit afterwards.

Abstinence Hawk (frogbs), Friday, 3 April 2015 14:32 (nine years ago) link

Smoochy was 1996 and that's fantastic, or is that what you're saying, that the 1990-95 period is underwhelming, but then he rallied?

soref, Friday, 3 April 2015 14:36 (nine years ago) link

I too love Smoochy, and Heartbeat (1992) as well. I also think Chasm, his last 'glitch pop' album (2004) is grand. He mostly fell off my radar after that, mainly because that minimal ambient electronica is not my forte, but I'm meaning to check all that newer stuff too. There's nothing in his catalogue that's inherently bad - his output being so diversified, it's just a matter of what's up your alley at any given time.

Max Florian, Friday, 3 April 2015 15:02 (nine years ago) link

xp yeah that's what I'm saying, don't remember much of Smoochy but that sort of lighter, more hip-hop driven pop he was doing never really did it for me. the album 1996 was pretty damn good though and cast a new light on a lot of those tunes.

Chasm was one of the first I'd heard from him and I thought it was awesome - it was his first new album since I'd gotten into him and I kinda figured he'd be doing albums like it for a long time, just long amalgams of his entire career like that. I'm not much a fan of the recent collabs he's done with people like Fennesz and Alva Noto, putting harsh distortion over minimal piano bits isn't interesting in the slightest to me. Still wanna hear his newer solo piano stuff.

Abstinence Hawk (frogbs), Friday, 3 April 2015 15:17 (nine years ago) link


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