Ryuichi Sakamoto S/D

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I've been listening to a lot of YMO over the last few years but hadn't really heard much of their solo works up until recently. I did own Illustrated Musical Encyclopedia for a while but just couldn't get into it. I gave B-2 Unit a listen and sadly that didn't click either. I did listen to a lot of Yukihiro Takahashi's albums and fell in love with the run he did from 80-83. I think I prefer his work as it's more similar to the more poppy moments of YMO, especially Naughty Boys which is one of my favourite albums of all time. I really loved Immigrants by the Sandii & The Sunsetz and Tutu by Miharu Koshi which were both produced by Haruomi Hosono. I tried one of his albums but it was a bit harder to get into. If anyone has any other suggestions of which albums I should try that would be greatly appreciated.

Kitchen Person, Monday, 14 March 2011 15:53 (nine years ago) link

Have you heard Sadistic Mika Band?

MaresNest, Monday, 14 March 2011 15:57 (nine years ago) link

Cochin Moon is probably Hosono's best, but I listen to Coincidental Music a lot xp

corey, Monday, 14 March 2011 15:58 (nine years ago) link

Kitchen - if you're looking for stuff that sounds like YMO, you're not really going to find it, except for those three Takahashi albums, which definitely sound like a YMO-side project, but in a good way. I'd be curious as to which Hosono album you got; he didn't do any solo stuff inside YMO besides Philharmony, which is a very neat album (though a little sparse) - he's definitely the kind of Eno-like artist who can do many many different styles and not look back. I guess I need to know what kind of stuff you're into before I can really say, but as I mentioned Sakamoto's Left Handed Dream is a tough one to go wrong with..

One thing you can do is to find the YEN record compilations; tons of great artists on those, and the YMO members were involved on nearly every release.

frogbs, Monday, 14 March 2011 15:58 (nine years ago) link

btw Paraiso is my favorite Hosono album - but if you like the non-standard/Monad period, please find the soundtrack he did for Nokto de la Galaskia Fervojo, it's seriously amazing in all the ways Hosono usually is. It's one of the coldest sounding albums I own.

frogbs, Monday, 14 March 2011 16:00 (nine years ago) link

Also, maybe check out Sakamoto's 1000 Knives record.

MaresNest, Monday, 14 March 2011 16:01 (nine years ago) link

Love to hear those YEN comps.

MaresNest, Monday, 14 March 2011 16:02 (nine years ago) link

listening to Ongaku Zukan on your rec btw, frogbs — thanks! I already loved this album so hearing the Japan-only tracks is like finding a secret level in a video game I've played 100 times

corey, Monday, 14 March 2011 16:03 (nine years ago) link

Yeah I had a feeling I would struggle to find stuff that sounded just like YMO. It was an amazing moment when I discovered all the Yukihiro albums, like I'd found another batch of lost YMO classics from that great period. I couldn't believe I'd never heard Drip Dry Eyes before. Tomorrow's Just Another Day is probably my favourite album of that run, the production is insane. They were all pretty easy to get on vinyl too unlike a lot of the albums from this scene.

Philharmony was the Hosono album I tried, it was nice enough but not really something I would listen to a lot. I am quite a big Eno fan but as you can probably guess it's the four vocal based albums from his 70's period that I love him for. If there's anymore of Hosono's albums that are slightly poppier or more song based I would give them a go.

I will give Left Handed Dream a listen, I love that artwork. Are those Yen compilations easy to track down?

Kitchen Person, Monday, 14 March 2011 16:10 (nine years ago) link

Not heard anything by Sadistic Mika Band. I get the impression the stuff they all released in the 70's is quite different. I listened to the first Yukihiro album Savannah and I just didn't like it at all, it was almost easy listening Muzak.

Kitchen Person, Monday, 14 March 2011 16:13 (nine years ago) link

It's kind of funny, Hosono had the same type of 'pop' phase but his was more exotica/tropical stuff. His albums with Happy End are really good. I understand if you didn't like Philharmony but can you at least admit that "Sports Man" and "LDK" are first-rate? ;)

A good reference is this:
http://technopop.info/

BTW I would be all for some kind of Japanese New Wave listening club similar to the Krautrock one. I mean that page above lists hundreds of albums and nearly half of them seem to have some link to YMO

frogbs, Monday, 14 March 2011 16:23 (nine years ago) link

corey - I was pretty surprised as well to find that the U.S. release cuts off half of the tracks, and also to realize that "Field Work" and "Steppin' Into Asia" didn't really fit with it at all. Sadly few outside of Japan seem to know about it. It sucks because "Replica" is my favorite RS track (at least, according to iTunes)

frogbs, Monday, 14 March 2011 16:26 (nine years ago) link

iTunes says my most-played RS track is "Dolphins"

corey, Monday, 14 March 2011 16:42 (nine years ago) link

BTW, just discovered that if you have access to the Japanese iTunes store, there are oodles of Playing the Piano Live concerts available from the past three years, including the ones he did on his swing through North America this past year. Just downloaded the Toronto show. They're only 1500 yen too, which makes them cheaper than most of the albums on the Japanese store!

Sean Carruthers, Monday, 14 March 2011 17:52 (nine years ago) link

I hate to be negative, but I really dislike the piano versions of his older songs — it makes me think of when someone orchestrates the music from the Final Fantasy games. Chintzy and artificial the originals sounds might be, they're a huge part of why I enjoy this music so much, and piano versions just turn them into elevator music imo.

corey, Monday, 14 March 2011 17:59 (nine years ago) link

Can see that, sure, but I actually like 'em a lot myself. Have really been enjoying a lot of other piano-based work like Olafur Arnalds and Max Richter etc, and so sometimes these versions really connect with me in a way that some of the 80s and 90s version don't. For example, the original "Amore" was a sophistopop high-gloss thing, but the piano version is quite moody. Not sure how much of this is just my love for the sound of the piano and how much of it is the rearrangement of the songs, though.

Sean Carruthers, Monday, 14 March 2011 18:03 (nine years ago) link

"Amore", yep, that's the track, thank you

frogbs, Monday, 14 March 2011 18:05 (nine years ago) link

Found this while perusing the information superhighway.

http://mutant-sounds.blogspot.com/2008/01/vatokyo-mobile-musiclp1982uk.html

MaresNest, Monday, 14 March 2011 22:37 (nine years ago) link

been distantly aware of this dude for a really long time and finally picked something up last week and i'm pretty into it! that Left Handed Dream one frogbs mentioned. excellent investment! ($0.49 x 25% employee discount iirc)

arby's, Monday, 14 March 2011 22:45 (nine years ago) link

Playing the Piano is lovely

gravity tractor VS asteroid B612 (m coleman), Monday, 14 March 2011 23:56 (nine years ago) link

Just had a listen to Beauty again; yep, "Amore" is definitely a beautiful tune, but this album is really wonky as a whole - "Rose Music" just irritates me.

If you want to hear the difference between Sakamoto and Hosono, listen to both versions of the Okinawan folk song "Asatoya Yunta" (on the albums Beauty and Paraiso). Sakamoto's is very crisp, precise, and beautiful, while Hosono's is surreal and exotic, to the point where it sounds like the vocals were recorded backwards. I love both versions but Hosono's is really something special.

frogbs, Tuesday, 15 March 2011 14:04 (nine years ago) link

OoooOOOooooh this has "War Head" on it!! Really wish he wrote more songs like that!!!

frogbs, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 17:43 (nine years ago) link

yeah — it's like the loopiest songs from Multiplies with awesome synth sounds

corey, Wednesday, 16 March 2011 18:05 (nine years ago) link

one year passes...

http://nonukes2012.jp/en/

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 05:33 (seven years ago) link

That is a lineup worthy of international attention

Also think it's going to be the first time sakamoto and otomo yoshihide have collaborated

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/text/fm20120705a1.html#.T_u_dRB5lP4

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 05:41 (seven years ago) link

I mean, was

And I guess I mean: I'm surprised to have only found out about a kraftwerk / ymo concert the week after it happens

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 06:01 (seven years ago) link

ummm, can we please get a DVD of this guys?

frogbs, Monday, 16 July 2012 21:11 (seven years ago) link

three months pass...

I hate to be negative, but I really dislike the piano versions of his older songs — it makes me think of when someone orchestrates the music from the Final Fantasy games. Chintzy and artificial the originals sounds might be, they're a huge part of why I enjoy this music so much, and piano versions just turn them into elevator music imo.

I dunno if you were referring to 1996 but I'm listening to it now and it's absolutely gorgeous. I think the artificiality kind of takes me out of it a bit - not on stuff like Ongaku Zukan or Neo Geo, but maybe on the albums past that. I had no idea "Bibo no Aozora" had such a haunting melody because it's covered up with dusty trip-hop drums and bad vocals.

frogbs, Tuesday, 13 November 2012 20:30 (seven years ago) link

find if you can /04 and /05, two great sakamoto-covers-himself-mostly-on-piano records

Brakhage, Wednesday, 14 November 2012 18:38 (seven years ago) link

five months pass...

'all star video: ryuichi sakamoto by nam june paik'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59MCqEjRFnI

Milton Parker, Monday, 29 April 2013 19:07 (seven years ago) link

oh my god

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 01:56 (seven years ago) link

a few years back I saw a film that I think was soundtracked by Sakamoto, very soft and minimal synth and piano music, with the visuals being mostly black with white rectangles fading in and out based on the piano notes. I think. Ring a bell for anyone?

the kind of man who best draws girls' eyeballs (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 02:33 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

wings of honneamise OST is really good man. esp "F A D E":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8nunklJx7o

original bgm, Friday, 9 May 2014 04:36 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

:-/

original bgm, Thursday, 10 July 2014 15:22 (five years ago) link

oof, how awful. all the best to him :(

Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Friday, 18 July 2014 18:32 (five years ago) link

two months pass...

Anyone who's a fan, if music that sounds like a combination of Naughty Boys and Ongaku Zukan appeals to you, search out the Works I - CM disc. It's basically a comp of all the commercial music Sakamoto composed between 1982 and 1984, a lot sounding like YMO outtakes, though most are instrumental. Akiko Yano is on a few fits. Nothing too adventurous but it's essentially Sakamoto's own version of Coincidental Music.

Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Tuesday, 23 September 2014 20:21 (five years ago) link

CM/TV is also excellent

Deverly (Bangelo), Tuesday, 23 September 2014 21:28 (five years ago) link

yeah, those comps are great. "perky jean" is a favorite:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55pAtVe-7VE

original bgm, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 02:30 (five years ago) link

this gets stuck in my head a lot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiz1dEJ3l7M

clouds, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 02:39 (five years ago) link

YOU! YOU!

clouds, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 02:39 (five years ago) link

hahaha awesome

original bgm, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 02:49 (five years ago) link

CM/TV is also excellent

yup I'm listening to it now; it's mostly the same tunes though isn't it?

Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Wednesday, 24 September 2014 12:29 (five years ago) link

whoa, there's a Penguin Cafe Orchestra cover on here (???)

Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Wednesday, 24 September 2014 13:08 (five years ago) link

three months pass...

Turns 63 today!!

Abstinence Hawk (frogbs), Saturday, 17 January 2015 07:10 (five years ago) link

he's a god.

soyrev, Saturday, 17 January 2015 08:33 (five years ago) link

two months pass...

I recently got Beauty based on the Allmusic review and "album pick" status. I'm now halfway through and holy crap, this is maybe one of the worst albums I've purchased in years.

ed.b, Friday, 3 April 2015 03:42 (five years ago) link

Every time I see this thread bumped I fear I'm going to read that he's died.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 3 April 2015 04:32 (five years ago) link

hmm not sure if that worked... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6td9KUZMfw

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Monday, 18 May 2020 07:20 (one month ago) link

three weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yv3Iqzpv3_I

In this documentary, filmed while he was recording Ongaku Zukan, Sakamoto mentions that he has recorded 30 tracks for the album from which he will choose ten, so I'm guessing that's where the supplemental material for the reissue came from.

Maresn3st, Wednesday, 10 June 2020 16:37 (four weeks ago) link


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