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i surely have some weird stuff i won't be able to find again

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 17:03 (sixteen years ago) link

ok in my defense i don't keep iphoto and iweb open *all the time*.

TCC worked pretty good. the best was cleaning out the startup .apps, i had no idea i had so many bullshit "services" loaded up. i never use contextual menus, really.

i'm also running quicksilver, wonder how much that eats up.

moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 17:39 (sixteen years ago) link

a bunch i think.

s1ocki, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 17:39 (sixteen years ago) link

TCC just made my Safari go much much faster. I'd used various shareware optimizer type programs before, TCC is the slowest, but seems to help the most.

I mentioned this on the hoonja thread, but I found quicksilver useless as I wasn't doing anything fancy. I just do my favorite trick of making a folder on the desktop with no name, or two spaces in front, and placing aliases of all the applications and utitlities I actually use in it. So when I need to open something, even something I wouldn't put on the dock because I don't use it that often, I just click on the desktop, hit the space bar, hit command down arrow to open the folder then type the first letter of the alias. It's really not any more clickes or typing then quicksilver.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 19:14 (sixteen years ago) link

ya quicksilver seems like mostly lifehacky bullshit to me.

s1ocki, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 19:15 (sixteen years ago) link

quicksilver is too slow if you put everything in it and have plugins

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 19:29 (sixteen years ago) link

i love quicksilver and i'm willing to take the speed hit for lifehacky bullshit ;)

grimly fiendish, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 19:37 (sixteen years ago) link

i use quicksilver as a spotlight replacement

moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 19:38 (sixteen years ago) link

grimly: i'd definitely be interested in that app. i know i've got massive stuff lurking, probably from video editing.

river wolf, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 19:41 (sixteen years ago) link

quicksilver is way faster and better than Spotlight

Dandy Don Weiner, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 19:48 (sixteen years ago) link

I just click on the desktop, hit the space bar, hit command down arrow to open the folder then type the first letter of the alias. It's really not any more clickes or typing then quicksilver.

I just tried this and I don't see how it's nearly as good! For a start, you have to make aliases and add them manually. Then, getting to the desktop involves using mouse (yes, you can hit F11 to show it, but then the space bar trick doesn't work until you click on the desktop) . More troublesomely, if your special aliases folder is already open from a previous use, but hidden behind other windows, the space bar trick won't work either.

With Quicksilver I just hit ctrl-space at any time, then usually just the first letter of the frequently used app or document I want, then return and that's it. Just three keypresses (or four if you count ctrl-space as two). Even if it's not the top-ranked (it learns by usage) item for that letter, getting to the one I do want takes a second - just hit the right arrow and scroll to the one I do want.

I'm sure there are less fully-featured app launchers that do a similar thing to Quicksilver and use less RAM, but I can't say I have a problem with my unpimped-up install of it - right now it's using just 7MB.

Alba, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 19:48 (sixteen years ago) link

river wolf ... i did the same vague googling i did when i found the thing and have tracked it down. it's called disk inventory X and it's great.

grimly fiendish, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 19:51 (sixteen years ago) link

quicksilver really bogged me down somehow. In any case, far as what I do goes...there's always some desktop showing for me, as I have 2 monitors and have been doing the option-click on the desktop to hide all thing since they introduced multi-finder or whenever, so that's pretty instinctual. Also, the alias folder is always closed because if you hit option command down arrow to open a program, it closes it's window. I guess this is just stuff I've always instinctively done anyway so it doesn't seem like a problem. I like manually adding the aliases though, as I get to choose and say, yes, these are the applications/utilities I want quick access to.

Also good, I put said folder in dock, then right/command click on folder to get list of everything. What you can't do though is drag onto an application like you could with the dock. Remember the old tabbed windows on the bottom of OS9? I would have one called "applications" then I could just drag onto the tab and drop it on photoshop or whatever. Of course photoshop is in my dock, but not every little thing is.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 20:33 (sixteen years ago) link

anyway, damn cache cleaner fixed something with Safari!

dan selzer, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 20:33 (sixteen years ago) link

glad my little recommendation meets with so much approval.

grimly fiendish, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 20:35 (sixteen years ago) link

Will it clean different caches to the ones that Onyx cleans?

Alba, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 20:39 (sixteen years ago) link

Horses for courses, Dan. I did have an Applications alias folder in my dock for a while, but really, I don't even like using the dock if I can help it. Keyboard forever, mouse never!

Alba, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 20:40 (sixteen years ago) link

i surely have some weird stuff i won't be able to find again

trying to resist not to interpret this as a pervy comment.

stevienixed, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 20:42 (sixteen years ago) link

Will it clean different caches to the ones that Onyx cleans?

no, but it'll do the edges of the skirting board, and behind the bog.

grimly fiendish, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 20:42 (sixteen years ago) link

I feel a little sorry for caches, sometimes. They're only trying to help.

Alba, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 20:44 (sixteen years ago) link

the new fullsize keyboard is basically awesome guys

El Tomboto, Friday, 12 October 2007 00:59 (sixteen years ago) link

I am wanking as I write this ... on my iPod touch. Oh alright its on loan :-(

Alan, Saturday, 13 October 2007 10:51 (sixteen years ago) link

Taking apple fetishism to the next level...

Bob Six, Saturday, 13 October 2007 11:10 (sixteen years ago) link

october 26 for leopard

any takers?

czn, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 12:49 (sixteen years ago) link

"Time Machine requires an additional hard drive"??

czn, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 12:50 (sixteen years ago) link

i can't wait for leopard! i might actually go to regent street on the day.

^@^, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 12:53 (sixteen years ago) link

It's kinda the point, that! xpost

stet, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 12:56 (sixteen years ago) link

time machine will also work with another partition - or so i last heard - not just an entire volume

Alan, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 13:03 (sixteen years ago) link

I can see the class action suit now. "They said Time Machine would back it up, but my disk died and I lost it all, my novel and all my photographs. Coming after the iPod battery I think this is just too much from Apple." TUAW will also become v. angry at this growing Partition Scandal.

stet, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 13:14 (sixteen years ago) link

It's hard to get too excited about a back-up solution, really. Spaces could be useful, I suppose. Better previewing with skimming? What else is there ..?.. transparent menu bars! I may be a while upgrading to Leopard.

Alba, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 13:30 (sixteen years ago) link

I felt that about Tiger, and was right then too. It's hard to tell how it's better than Panther, and it's much slower on the mini.

stet, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 13:34 (sixteen years ago) link

I'll be waiting till at least .1 for this.

Ed, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 13:44 (sixteen years ago) link

I may be wrong, but I think if you have a recentish machine then Tiger starts up faster than Panther. Certainly my MacBook feels like it's faster booting than my old eMac was when it was new. Not that I'm often doing it.

I wonder if there's any chance they'll fix memory management in any way, or if that's something that has to be done at the app level. Browsers (Safari esp) seem to just grab ridiculous amounts of RAM if it's left running for a while. Actually I think Safari is just particularly crap because it also seems to sometimes go nuts and start using 90% of the CPU as well.

Alba, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 13:47 (sixteen years ago) link

I hope that you can downgrade to safari 2.0 as well... 3.0 is worse than IE 5.0

czn, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 13:52 (sixteen years ago) link

I'll probably get it soon, if only for the updates in Mail and iCal and other synching type stuff.

Dandy Don Weiner, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 13:58 (sixteen years ago) link

I thought you used Opera, N? I switched to it from Safari 3 which is a dog like czn says

stet, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 14:13 (sixteen years ago) link

I used Opera for a long time. But the thing that got me to switch was it not working with Scrabulous instant messages! I would consider going back if that resolved itself (maybe it has, with new Scrabulous update, I'll check later) though I spent so long modding Safari to get it to do things I want (like mouse gestures) that I'm kind of reluctant. Safari is OK for me as long as I quit and restart it every so often (am sometimes forced to do so - grr beach ball). The lack of any download management options does my head in a bit - haven't properly checked if this can be fixed with a mod. OK, so I do hate Safari. It's much faster than Opera at starting up though. Opera bounces several times in the dock even with my brand newish MacBook. Time to try Firefox again, maybe.

Alba, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 14:29 (sixteen years ago) link

I remember you finding out I used Opera before and you raised your eyebrows and said: "Far be it from me to criticise a man's choice of browser".

Alba, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 14:36 (sixteen years ago) link

Did I? What a tit.

stet, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 15:51 (sixteen years ago) link

Anyway, this is not lust.

Alba, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 16:02 (sixteen years ago) link

I dunno, I really like that speed dial page.

stet, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 16:06 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh, that was wank. It suddenly started appearing and it took me ages to work out how to get rid of it.

Alba, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 16:13 (sixteen years ago) link

too much wanking on this thread

Bob Six, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 19:57 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/300.html

Alba, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 19:58 (sixteen years ago) link

.Mac sync for Dock items! That's £69 + £129 well spent.

stet, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 20:01 (sixteen years ago) link

I wasn't going to upgrade because my computer is slow enough with Tiger as is (I have the first g5 tower) but I can't resist and I can really use better synching btw mac mail/address book and yahoo.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 20:56 (sixteen years ago) link

OK, Scrabulous instant messages do work if you hit the submit button and not the return key. Perhaps I can live with this and will revert to Opera. It doesn't seem to bounce in the dock lots of times before launching anymore. OS X is a mystery to me.

Alba, Tuesday, 16 October 2007 21:21 (sixteen years ago) link

legitimate 3rd party iphone & itouch apps coming next year, i think this will become a big deal and makes both of them a lot more attractive
http://www.apple.com/hotnews/

zappi, Wednesday, 17 October 2007 15:44 (sixteen years ago) link

yr quicker than digg!!

Alan, Wednesday, 17 October 2007 15:47 (sixteen years ago) link

"my computer is slow enough with Tiger as is (I have the first g5 tower)"

this does not work. do you have like 48k of ram or something ?!

Alan, Wednesday, 17 October 2007 15:49 (sixteen years ago) link


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