like, they're on the 45th edition of this one http://www.campzoe.com/schwagstock45.html
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 13 March 2011 03:45 (thirteen years ago) link
gbx there is a lot of truth to what you're saying
the fact that the majority of their acronym consists of words that you don't put in acronyms should have been reason enough for your school to boycott this band. they should just be R.
xp to dayo
also what do they sound like? I don't want to youtube it
― iatee, Sunday, 13 March 2011 03:46 (thirteen years ago) link
bonnaroo is obv a huge festival & they get tons of huge acts now but they still bill the string cheese incident on the same line as lil wayne
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 13 March 2011 03:47 (thirteen years ago) link
that is real talk, aero
but i still think that the main thing as far as the jam-band/college lol issue is concerned w/r/t to 'frat rap' is that the dead extension kinda carved out a bunch of trade routes that lead to weird underground popularity that can outstrip, in money and devotion, the reach of 'main-stream' artists.
i mean ICP is the apotheosis of this shit---i'm guessin they are ACTUALLY more popular than the dead ever was
many xps lol saturday
― ullr saves (gbx), Sunday, 13 March 2011 03:49 (thirteen years ago) link
(not to prompt a dead v. ICP popularity contest---just that ICP has, simply by existing ~when~ they exist, pushed more units and sold more tickets (maybe) than the Dead. )
― ullr saves (gbx), Sunday, 13 March 2011 03:51 (thirteen years ago) link
OMG this shit is awful, just now hearing some of the youtubes posted. also- is that article whiney posted for real???
The group's third member is D.J. Kid Swift, a highly ranked professional disk jockey. "The d.j.of a rap album," Shecter explained, "is the guy who manipulates the record on the turntable to produce a scratching sound.""They will probably be as big or even bigger than The Beastie Boys because they have total crossover appeal," Ratner said of the group."I've been interested in the music since rap came out, when I was around eleven years old," Shecter said in his Cabot House room, which is decorated with posters of rap groups Erik B. & Rakim.
"They will probably be as big or even bigger than The Beastie Boys
"I've been interested in the music since rap came out, when I was around eleven years old," Shecter said in his Cabot House room, which is decorated with posters of rap groups Erik B. & Rakim.
like, this kid is explaining what a DJ is to harvard students?? eric b. & rakim referred to as "groups" plural? and bigger than the beastie boys/???? like.. fuck i dont even know what to say, this is so stupid
― thank you ilxor for starting this much needed thread (ilxor), Sunday, 13 March 2011 03:59 (thirteen years ago) link
also- is "O.A.R." a play on the term "A.O.R."? never heard them btw but am v aware of their existence in the dave matthews fanbase world
― thank you ilxor for starting this much needed thread (ilxor), Sunday, 13 March 2011 04:01 (thirteen years ago) link
O.A.R. (short for Of a Revolution) is an American rock band
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 13 March 2011 04:01 (thirteen years ago) link
looooool wtf
― thank you ilxor for starting this much needed thread (ilxor), Sunday, 13 March 2011 04:02 (thirteen years ago) link
I think they have a trumpet player?
― dayo, Sunday, 13 March 2011 04:03 (thirteen years ago) link
what ethnicity is he
― iatee, Sunday, 13 March 2011 04:04 (thirteen years ago) link
he may have dreads
― dayo, Sunday, 13 March 2011 04:05 (thirteen years ago) link
so he's white?
― iatee, Sunday, 13 March 2011 04:06 (thirteen years ago) link
*nods*
― dayo, Sunday, 13 March 2011 04:08 (thirteen years ago) link
*lols*
― ullr saves (gbx), Sunday, 13 March 2011 04:11 (thirteen years ago) link
is that article whiney posted for real???
Not only is it real, I think everyone on this thread missed a certain something a few paragraphs in:
Brett Ratner, a sophomore at New YorkUniversity, is the group's manager and executiveproducer. "I heard a demo of the group, I thoughtthey were great and I thought the Harvard imagewas great," he said. "So I got $10,000, finishedthe record, and got a five-record deal with Sire."
Yes, THAT Brett Ratner.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 13 March 2011 04:13 (thirteen years ago) link
yep. article is from 1988, not everyone knew what a DJ was, ilxor
― Whiney On The Goon (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 13 March 2011 05:02 (thirteen years ago) link
also like frat audiences are responsible for like 95% of the dubstep bought in america, mostly by people youve never heard of, with like the other 5% being the dubstep pitchfork writes about and we post about
― Whiney On The Goon (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 13 March 2011 05:04 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, i've been holding onto this theory that dubstep is the new jam music
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 13 March 2011 05:05 (thirteen years ago) link
this seems like a claim that you'd want to support with figures or links to sales stuff or something, even with the qualifier "like" in front of the "95%"
― five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 13 March 2011 05:07 (thirteen years ago) link
dude, when ppl on 4chan have 400 post threads about dubstep, they're not talking about "King Midas Sound" and shit
― Whiney On The Goon (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, 13 March 2011 05:09 (thirteen years ago) link
I don't think more made up statistics is what aero was asking for
― iatee, Sunday, 13 March 2011 05:12 (thirteen years ago) link
Thanks to this type of thread I've developed a morbid fascination with these types of bands. I actually like Widespread Panic a bit, but I was already familiar w/ them since I have some frat bros in the extended family. never listened to OAR tho. As someone whos aspires to be involved in the performing side of music someday, should I be worried about lettting this stuff into my head? I'd hate to start busting out the DMB's "Warehouse" riff by accident.
As for dubstep being the new jam music, thats OTM. I started going to EDM parties in Portland in 2007, when it was the last tail end of jaded techno scenesters (glory days: 1999), a smattering of E'd up baby gangsters, and a young hardcore raver group in attendance. Then dubstep hit, and I see football jocks from high school at all the big raves now. I knly know this b/c I see it on facebook, not from attending
― Franklin_The_Turtle, Sunday, 13 March 2011 05:12 (thirteen years ago) link
Fascinating info-graphic of Widespread Panic's career of touring, which starts around the time the Dead release "Touch of Grey" solidifying the jam band thing among Gen Xers in Southern college towns. Roachclips and golf clubs.
http://www.thebarnpresents.com/wp-content/uploads/wsp25.jpg
― bendy, Sunday, 13 March 2011 05:16 (thirteen years ago) link
full sized http://www.thebarnpresents.com/wp-content/uploads/wsp25.jpg
my theory is based purely on personal anecdotes etc -- just feel like lots of stoners i come across are listening more to beat based music nowadays, and that leans a lot towards dubstep since it's not dance oriented
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 13 March 2011 05:19 (thirteen years ago) link
if those guys ever listen to some black metal high it's gonna totally broaden their horizons
― five gone cats from Boston (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 13 March 2011 05:21 (thirteen years ago) link
it took me way too long to figure out what those mysterious boxes and arrows on that chart were
― iatee, Sunday, 13 March 2011 05:22 (thirteen years ago) link
O.A.R. is well known for its live performances because the band often creates variations to songs at each concert, making it rare to hear a song played the exact same way twice. The band also incorporates jam elements in their concerts, resulting in many of their live songs running anywhere between 5 and 18 minutes each. O.A.R.'s unique concert performances have led many people to believe they are one of the top live bands today.
― dayo, Sunday, 13 March 2011 05:35 (thirteen years ago) link
At their live shows, O.A.R. has been known to cover a variety of songs by artists such as Bob Dylan, U2, the Grateful Dead, Billy Joel, The Beatles, Simon and Garfunkel, and Bob Marley.
― dayo, Sunday, 13 March 2011 05:42 (thirteen years ago) link
Genre
They seem to lie between several genres. We should at least add ska as a genre.Barrett Ross (talk) 21:30, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
- do you have any rationale for this? They don't feature a big selection of ska.. only a few songs. They definetly used to be on the jam circuit though. If anything, their genre should be Corporate Pop, as the creative aspect of their music has been lost to the unwilling mainstream.
― iatee, Sunday, 13 March 2011 05:47 (thirteen years ago) link
"my theory is based purely on personal anecdotes etc -- just feel like lots of stoners i come across are listening more to beat based music nowadays, and that leans a lot towards dubstep since it's not dance oriented"
Except lots of people dance to it! Makes sense tho. And it neatly avoids the latent "disco sucks" mentality of the US general public. SHould we really be hat bummed that rave is finally crossing over here? Maybe something good will come out of it
― Franklin_The_Turtle, Sunday, 13 March 2011 05:50 (thirteen years ago) link
is there a name for the self-perpetuating cycle of distribution that happens at American colleges, like the scene of a doe-eyed freshmen arriving on campus and being given a burned Pavement CD with a "Listen to this! It'll blow yer mind" uttered by some wizened, alt junior
― dayo, Sunday, 13 March 2011 05:52 (thirteen years ago) link
At one point it would have been 'college radio trainee orientation'
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 13 March 2011 05:56 (thirteen years ago) link
Haha Ned served that function for me as a homeschooled 14 yr old getting into Dinosaur Jr
― Franklin_The_Turtle, Sunday, 13 March 2011 06:03 (thirteen years ago) link
Wait...I did? How?
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 13 March 2011 06:06 (thirteen years ago) link
Dude, allmusic.com changed my life. I think I read your review of "Where You Been" and DL'd the whole thing, eventually buying all the albums.
― Franklin_The_Turtle, Sunday, 13 March 2011 06:10 (thirteen years ago) link
Ned's reviews got me into Nick Drake iirc
― frogbs (flopson) (crüt), Sunday, 13 March 2011 06:16 (thirteen years ago) link
at a similar age
Really, I spent an obscene amount of time tracking down bands on there. Anything that mentioned "stuttering feedback snorts" etc. was guaranteed a listen. Once you get a fuzz habit, the tendency is to push it as far as it can go.
Homeschooling can really fuck a kid up, but by golly I was hip. I was pretty sure I was the only kid in town who listened to "Hex". Then again, I didnt know any other kids : p
― Franklin_The_Turtle, Sunday, 13 March 2011 06:16 (thirteen years ago) link
try breaking out of your shell
― dayo, Sunday, 13 March 2011 06:18 (thirteen years ago) link
Nah, its very refined and cosy in here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JOl3YaDCQI
― Franklin_The_Turtle, Sunday, 13 March 2011 06:25 (thirteen years ago) link
Nutty. Well, glad to be able to help! Seriously, that's pretty cool.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 13 March 2011 06:32 (thirteen years ago) link
i hate to be this guy, but franklin this isn't THAT ned raggett
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 13 March 2011 06:44 (thirteen years ago) link
Please, I'm trying to help him here and you are shattering his crystal palace.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 13 March 2011 06:46 (thirteen years ago) link
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
― Franklin_The_Turtle, Sunday, 13 March 2011 09:13 (thirteen years ago) link
― Whiney On The Goon (Whiney G. Weingarten), Sunday, March 13, 2011 5:04 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark
seriously over the last year or so i've had so many confused conversations with people about dubstep who're like 'oh rad you like dubstep?? who do you like??' and i'll mention some names and they'll mention some names and we'll slowly realize there's literally no overlap
i've been trying to figure out why this is
― HOOStory is back. Fasten your steenbelts. (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Sunday, 13 March 2011 09:23 (thirteen years ago) link
dubstep is just an illusion hoos
― flopson, Sunday, 13 March 2011 09:25 (thirteen years ago) link
flopson otm about dubstep!
i had genuinely assumed mac miller was a comedian. rather than just "as morally reprehensible as a comedian"
― lex pretend, Sunday, 13 March 2011 09:34 (thirteen years ago) link